• Russia Launches Large-Scale Military Exercises in Disputed Territories
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[url]http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/russia-launches-large-scale-military-exercises-disputed-territories-n317776[/url] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/itUlMCY.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]MOSCOW — Russia's Defense Ministry said on Thursday that large-scale military exercises had started in southern Russia and in disputed territories on the country's borders. The exercises involve over 2,000 anti-aircraft troops and 500 items of weaponry and will last until April 10, Interfax news agency reported. The Defense Ministry said the exercises were taking place in Russia's Southern and North Caucasus Federal Districts, as well as on Russian military bases in Armenia, the Georgian separatist regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia and Ukraine's Crimea region, which Moscow annexed last year. They are likely to be viewed in the West as a show of force as relations between Russia and the West are at their most strained since the Cold War because of the Ukraine crisis. Ukraine and the West accuse Russia of directing a separatist assault in eastern Ukraine with its own troops and weapons. Russia has repeatedly denied those accusations. At a news conference in Moscow unrelated to the exercises, Russian Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov said NATO activities on Russia's borders far exceeded anything the Russian military was undertaking. [/QUOTE]
In times like that I appreciate our government's Finlandization policy with Russia and the NATO.
Saber rattling at it's finest.
I hear it on the wind, it'll be here soon. Wait for it.
What is the likelyhood that this is actually final invasion of Europe?
[QUOTE=isreal?;47266829]What is the likelyhood that this is actually final invasion of Europe?[/QUOTE] 0%
[QUOTE=isreal?;47266829]What is the likelyhood that this is actually final invasion of Europe?[/QUOTE] Imagine if Russia tried what Germany tried almost 80 years ago :v: In short it would never happen unless they were [I]literally[/I] fucking insane and can't observe history
[QUOTE=Kylel999;47266851]Imagine if Russia tried what Germany tried almost 80 years ago :v: In short it would never happen unless they were [I]literally[/I] fucking insane and can't observe history[/QUOTE] If one of the major powers today played their cards well enough they could easily cripple their opponents with an emp or hack attack. Something like that would turn insane ambitions into a potential win, it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and frankly I think it is naive to think that we are suddenly past war. [editline]123[/editline] In other words, we need to be sure we observe history as well.
georgia just can't catch a fuckin' break
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;47266989]If one of the major powers today played their cards well enough they could easily cripple their opponents with an emp or hack attack. Something like that would turn insane ambitions into a potential win, it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and frankly I think it is naive to think that we are suddenly past war. [editline]123[/editline] In other words, we need to be sure we observe history as well.[/QUOTE] But subs with nukes?
[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;47267002]georgia just can't catch a fuckin' break[/QUOTE] It's funny how Russia does shit like this when the government in Georgia is relatively Pro-Russian right now.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47266773]I hear it on the wind, it'll be here soon. Wait for it.[/QUOTE] Ok grandpa
Major powers wont try start an all-out war because it would be impossible for them to win it without destroying themselves and everyone else in the process. Unless russia has some magical defense against any amount of ballistic missiles, they cant win an all-out war against NATO. It would be the most they could do to fund poxy wars.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;47266989]If one of the major powers today played their cards well enough they could easily cripple their opponents with an emp or hack attack. Something like that would turn insane ambitions into a potential win, it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and frankly I think it is naive to think that we are suddenly past war. [editline]123[/editline] In other words, we need to be sure we observe history as well.[/QUOTE] ^ thinks military electronics are not held to any standards at all l m a o
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;47267596]^ thinks military electronics are not held to any standards at all l m a o[/QUOTE] crippling the electronics of a country is not something that any country could shake off even if all of the military's equipment was safe. it would force the military to divert a large amount of their forces to relief efforts unless you believe the government would let potential anarchy rage across it [editline]5th March 2015[/editline] if they don't give a shit about international law, a well-organized attack on the hydroelectric dams in washington and california could very well cripple the power structure of the entire west coast which would be a major issue
[QUOTE=Samg381;47266772]Saber rattling at it's finest.[/QUOTE] Honestly I just see it as Putin twerking towards the west.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47268224]crippling the electronics of a country is not something that any country could shake off even if all of the military's equipment was safe. it would force the military to divert a large amount of their forces to relief efforts unless you believe the government would let potential anarchy rage across it [editline]5th March 2015[/editline] if they don't give a shit about international law, a well-organized attack on the hydroelectric dams in washington and california could very well cripple the power structure of the entire west coast which would be a major issue[/QUOTE] Presumably local, state, and federal emergency services along with the National Guard would be able to deal with at least some significant portion of the disaster relief, presuming of course the entire US is hit by an emp or similar attack and not just sections. Even if a significant portion of the army is needed; the carrier groups wouldn't be of much use in such efforts, and as such could be used to strike back. This also presumes that the US and the rest of NATO wouldn't be able to strike similar, if not worse, blows to Russia. [editline]6th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=isreal?;47266829]What is the likelyhood that this is actually final invasion of Europe?[/QUOTE] Russia may eventually finish off Ukraine, they may even repeat the process for any other European nation not nailed down by NATO, but they in all likelihood aren't going to commit suicide by attacking NATO.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47268224] if they don't give a shit about international law, a well-organized attack on the hydroelectric dams in washington and california could very well cripple the power structure of the entire west coast which would be a major issue[/QUOTE] oh well not to worry russia has always been a shining example in that regard
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47268224]crippling the electronics of a country is not something that any country could shake off even if all of the military's equipment was safe. it would force the military to divert a large amount of their forces to relief efforts unless you believe the government would let potential anarchy rage across it [editline]5th March 2015[/editline] if they don't give a shit about international law, a well-organized attack on the hydroelectric dams in washington and california could very well cripple the power structure of the entire west coast which would be a major issue[/QUOTE] Anything that is of any value is shielded from emp attacks by simply being in some metal sheath or shield. It's not difficult at all to be protected from them, don't think that it'd be crippling at all
[QUOTE=Instant Mix;47268538]Anything that is of any value is shielded from emp attacks by simply being in some metal sheath or shield. It's not difficult at all to be protected from them, don't think that it'd be crippling at all[/QUOTE] actually our power grid is not at all prepared for any sort of emp, either from an attack or from the sun. [URL="http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2014/07/31/protecting-the-u-s-against-the-electromagnetic-pulse-threat-a-continued-failure-of-leadership-could-make-911-look-trivial-someday/"][source][/URL] it doesn't matter if your computer to your toaster are shielded if there's no power.
[QUOTE=Instant Mix;47268538]Anything that is of any value is shielded from emp attacks by simply being in some metal sheath or shield. It's not difficult at all to be protected from them, don't think that it'd be crippling at all[/QUOTE] Military equipment, yeah, but IIRC the power grid of let's say the US is still very vulnerable to an EMP. [editline]6th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47268643]actually our power grid is not at all prepared for any sort of emp, either from an attack or from the sun. [URL="http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2014/07/31/protecting-the-u-s-against-the-electromagnetic-pulse-threat-a-continued-failure-of-leadership-could-make-911-look-trivial-someday/"][source][/URL] it doesn't matter if your computer to your toaster are shielded if there's no power.[/QUOTE] beat me to it
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;47266989]If one of the major powers today played their cards well enough they could easily cripple their opponents with an emp or hack attack. Something like that would turn insane ambitions into a potential win, it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and frankly I think it is naive to think that we are suddenly past war.[/QUOTE] Why would they do that though? Russia is long past the days of growing 50km^2 a day, or fighting in big wars like in the Soviet times.
Can we please join NATO now
Putin should just fuck off with all this pointless warmongering and dickwaving already. Why can't we all just get along and join forces on destroying ISIS or something for fucks sake
Did no one notice how in picture two guys in front have identical look on their faces?
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;47266989]If one of the major powers today played their cards well enough they could easily cripple their opponents with an emp or hack attack. Something like that would turn insane ambitions into a potential win, it isn't out of the realm of possibility, and frankly I think it is naive to think that we are suddenly past war. [editline]123[/editline] In other words, we need to be sure we observe history as well.[/QUOTE] This is real life, not Call of Duty. [editline]6th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47268224]crippling the electronics of a country is not something that any country could shake off even if all of the military's equipment was safe. it would force the military to divert a large amount of their forces to relief efforts unless you believe the government would let potential anarchy rage across it [editline]5th March 2015[/editline] if they don't give a shit about international law, a well-organized attack on the hydroelectric dams in washington and california could very well cripple the power structure of the entire west coast which would be a major issue[/QUOTE] It would force the government to delpoy NatGuard, not just turn around all of the carrier fleets and send them home because some places are without power.
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