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[QUOTE]Florida pastor Terry Jones, who inflamed Muslims for once burning the Qur'an, says he has been denied permission to enter Canada to attend a Thursday evening speaking engagement in Toronto.
Jones told CBC News he would appeal, but for the time being, he said he was heading back to Florida.
The Canada Border Services Agency made Jones go through a secondary inspection when he arrived at the the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor, Ont., around noon. Secondary inspection involves a search of a person's vehicle and more extensive questioning.
He was held there for a couple of hours before being told he would not be allowed to proceed to Toronto. Jones says the CBSA cited a previous peace bond infraction in the U.S. as well as an incident in Germany to keep him out.
The pastor was on his way to a scheduled speaking engagement on the lawn of the Ontario legislature at 6 p.m. Thursday. The event is titled "Canadians united against terror." It was to include a memorial for U.S. Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer. Canadian Omar Khadr pleaded guilty and was convicted of the murder of Speer, a soldier who died from his wounds during a firefight in Afghanistan in 2002.
A discussion was to follow dealing with the anti-Islamic video [I]Innocence of Muslims[/I]. The film sparked protests and outrage throughout the Middle East. Organizers said the video would not be shown at the event. Instead, a panel discussion would broach the issue of whether it should be shown.
Jones is best known for burning a Qur'an on the anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
[B]Proposed bill tightens border[/B]
Citizenship and Immigration Minister Jason Kenney's office told CBC News the government did not have the power to keep Jones out of the country.
That decision lies solely with the CBSA, which can keep Jones out of Canada if he's considered a security threat.
The Conservatives have proposed a bill that would make it much easier to keep such people out of Canada.
Bill C-43, the Faster Removal of Foreign Criminals Act, would give the immigration minister powers to determine who can be kept out of — or allowed in — the country.
One measure of the bill would give the minister the power to deny someone entry or temporary resident status for up to three years on the basis of public policy considerations.
The NDP's border critic, Brian Masse (Windsor West) has issues with the bill, including its name.
"It is unfortunate that these types of titles have now been introduced into legislation. This one is very serious. It is a continuation of our immigration drift," Masse said in the House last week.
Kenney said last June that the power would be used sparingly.
"This is an important initiative to protect Canadians from serious, repeat foreign criminals who have been delaying their deportation from Canada and in too many cases going on to create new offences and create new victims in Canada," Kenney said outside the House of Commons when the bill was introduced in late September.
The bill would also ease the way to deport refugees, permanent residents and visitors for "serious criminality," crimes where the punishment is six months or more in jail.
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This is just like when Ann Coulter was supposed to speak at Ottawa University. For a long time, no one gave a shit. Suddenly right before the event, a massive outcry erupts and the person is banned from speaking/entering the country. It's amazing because people like these two are largely ignored in Canada, and if no one had made this much noise I doubt anyone would have noticed or cared.
Good.
i thought terry jones of monty python was denied entry. i was like "what the shit did he do to piss of canada that much?"
Pretty dumb that they can ban you from entering their country, purely because your opinions don't conform to theirs. I don't agree with anything Jones has too say, he's a massive ass hole, but banning him from speaking or entering in their country seems excessive.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999191]Pretty dumb that they can ban you from entering their country, purely because your opinions don't conform to theirs. I don't agree with anything Jones has too say, he's a massive ass hole, but banning him from speaking or entering in their country seems excessive.[/QUOTE]
If you're here to promote hate and it's without a doubt that you'll be doing it, being a bigoted, racist asshat then you have no right to be here as you're only causing controversy and you fully know that you're doing it.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;37999215]If you're here to promote hate and it's without a doubt that you'll be doing it, being a bigoted, racist asshat then you have no right to be here as you're only causing controversy and you fully know that you're doing it.[/QUOTE]
Just because you don't agree with a persons opinions doesn't mean you should void their right to speak about it.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999191]Pretty dumb that they can ban you from entering their country, purely because your opinions don't conform to theirs. I don't agree with anything Jones has too say, he's a massive ass hole, but banning him from speaking or entering in their country seems excessive.[/QUOTE]
Isn't preaching hate against the law in Canada.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999191]Pretty dumb that they can ban you from entering their country, purely because your opinions don't conform to theirs. I don't agree with anything Jones has too say, he's a massive ass hole, but banning him from speaking or entering in their country seems excessive.[/QUOTE]
He's proven to be dangerous though, if he goes to Canada and does some stupid shit he could get Canadian embassy staff and soldiers killed. I can understand if they don't want to touch that shit with a ten-foot pole
[QUOTE=laserguided;37999241]Isn't preaching hate against the law in Canada.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's against the law in a lot of places.
Hate speech, that is.
[QUOTE=smurfy;37999320]He's proven to be dangerous though, if he goes to Canada and does some stupid shit he could get Canadian embassy staff and soldiers killed[/QUOTE]
That's a pretty BS excuse.
This really needs to be taken at face value, the ass is almost assuredly here to spread hate speech, and ultimately he's probably going to get through to a few troglodytes and do nothing but damage to the cultural infrastructure. The Muslim communities in Canada are stable and well established so the last thing anybody needs is a guy like this coming in trying to rile people up for no reason.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999191]Pretty dumb that they can ban you from entering their country, purely because your opinions don't conform to theirs. I don't agree with anything Jones has too say, he's a massive ass hole, but banning him from speaking or entering in their country seems excessive.[/QUOTE]
Excessive hate speech is disallowed in Canada. It's what keeps religions such as the Westboro Baptist church from preaching in Canada.
Basically, you can't be a bigoted fucktard in Canada without consequences.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37999506]Excessive hate speech is disallowed in Canada. It's what keeps religions such as the Westboro Baptist church from preaching in Canada.[/QUOTE]
And the KKK.
[QUOTE=laserguided;37999554]Basically, you can't be a bigoted fucktard in Canada without consequences.[/QUOTE]
Exactly
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;37999506]Excessive hate speech is disallowed in Canada. It's what keeps religions such as the Westboro Baptist church from preaching in Canada.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't make it any less dumb or unjust.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999620]Doesn't make it any less dumb or unjust.[/QUOTE]
Its completely just, its what Canadians want.
I can see why, good.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999620]Doesn't make it any less dumb or unjust.[/QUOTE]
No, but being allowed to chant homophobic and disturbing things at funerals of soldiers is, right?? Hate speech being illegal is a good thing..
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37999793]No, but being allowed to chant homophobic and disturbing things at funerals of soldiers is, right?? Hate speech being illegal is a good thing..[/QUOTE]
Censorship is only ok when you censor things I don't agree with.
Perfectly sound logic.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999864]Censorship is only ok when you censor things I don't agree with.
Perfectly sound logic.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna fly over Harlem while screaming how niggers are ignorant cavemen who should all be executed in the streets by the clearly superior white race under the guise of free speech.
I dunno how to explain it, but pretty much, Canada is cool like that.
Oh, whats that? A guy who's had multiple incidents where he's been involved with hate speech/burning korans/inciting hate? Well I'm sorry Mr. Jones, we don't want your hate speechy ass here in the land of the maple syrup and polar bears, you can kindly turn around with your trailer and leave eh?
Sorry ya hoser!
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999864]Censorship is only ok when you censor things I don't agree with.
Perfectly sound logic.[/QUOTE]
You can always try voicing your opinion without inciting hate, ye know?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999864]Censorship is only ok when you censor things I don't agree with.
Perfectly sound logic.[/QUOTE]
Hate speech implies all hate speech not just hate speech you disagree with.
[QUOTE=laserguided;37999964]Hate speech implies all hate speech not just hate speech you disagree with.[/QUOTE]
Which must mean that he agrees with hate speech.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37999864]Censorship is only ok when you censor things I don't agree with.
Perfectly sound logic.[/QUOTE]
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Free speech has limits whether you like it or not.
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Free speech has limits whether you like it or not.[/QUOTE]
(it shouldn't). I don't agree with hate speech or anything terry jones or the WBC has to say, but I don't think they should loose their right to say it. Thats my opinion and I'll leave it at that.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;38000060](it shouldn't). I don't agree with hate speech or anything terry jones or the WBC has to say, but I don't think they should loose their right to say it. Thats my opinion and I'll leave it at that.[/QUOTE]
He hasn't lost his right to say it. He's been denied access to a country because he's a risk to the general public.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;38000068]He hasn't lost his right to say it. He's been denied access to a country because he's a risk to the general public.[/QUOTE]
He's lost his right to say it in Canada.
[QUOTE=Fort83;38000142]Yea that's right stay the fuck outta my country. You're bigot hate isn't welcome here.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that dozens of muslim organizations in Canada preach every year about how they're going to take over our country by simply outnumbering us, right? Lots of groups get away with hate speech here. Calling this a victory is a bit misleading.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;38000473]You do realize that dozens of muslim organizations in Canada preach every year about how they're going to take over our country by simply outnumbering us, right? Lots of groups get away with hate speech here. Calling this a victory is a bit misleading.[/QUOTE]
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