Bernie Sanders scores two major political endorsements in 1 day.
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[QUOTE]Sen. Bernie Sanders’ bid for the Democratic presidential nomination scored two big endorsements Thursday, one from a major labor union and another from a progressive political action committee founded by former Vermont governor Howard Dean.
The Vermont independent’s endorsement by the Communications Workers of America union, which represents 700,000 public and private sector workers, is one of his biggest endorsements to date. It follows a series of endorsements for Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton by 18 unions and labor alliances representing nearly 12 million people.
The Democracy for America PAC endorsed Sanders even after Dean asked the group’s members to support Clinton.
Both Democracy for America and the Communications Workers of America could tap members for fundraising support and grass-roots organizing. The union, which endorsed Sanders after polling its members, has a super PAC that can make unlimited independent expenditures in support of Sanders or against other candidates.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/17/bernie-sanders-endorsement-communications-workers-of-america/77482612/[/url]
Can't gurney the Bernie.
so how long does this guy have to beat clinton?
nearly a year I think?
[quote]It follows a series of endorsements for Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton by 18 unions and labor alliances representing nearly 12 million people.[/quote]
Incredibly ironic for a group supposedly representing the people to endorse a candidate who represents the rich.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;49339079]Incredibly ironic for a group supposedly representing the people to endorse a candidate who represents the rich.[/QUOTE]
She's famous for working directly with Wallstreet. Dunno why'd they support her.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49339109]She's famous for working directly with Wallstreet. Dunno why'd they support her.[/QUOTE]
The obsolete idea that she is more electable. (A lot of said endorsements were made early on. The AFL-CIO is the real endorsement that they're vying for)
[QUOTE=uitham;49339024]so how long does this guy have to beat clinton?[/QUOTE]
Primaries start in February and run until June. You can look at your respective state's primary date here: [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016"]Democratic Party Presidential Primaries 2016 - Wikipedia[/url]
God fucking speed Bernie. Please save us.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;49339137]The obsolete idea that she is more electable. (A lot of said endorsements were made early on. The AFL-CIO is the real endorsement that they're vying for)[/QUOTE]
This might be it. When I was doing factory work, there were a lot of people who supported her for this reason anyway: she's a Democrat (and Democrats have a better track record of representing labor), and she's a woman from well-known political dynasty (which, in all fairness, her husband wasn't a bad president at all).
When I was doing factory work, I noticed these to be the reasons anyway. We basically had no Republicans on the floor in that entire plant-- except for the supervisors and the higher ups (that figures, of course). And a lot of the women said they supported her for no other reason than because she was a woman. It's a stupid as hell reason, but that's how it is (or was when I was there anyway). Not insinuating they were stupid people or anything of course, just that their decision on this particular issue was/is questionable.
Don't forget the Working Families Party supporting Bernie also!
[url]http://workingfamilies.org/[/url]
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;49339137]The obsolete idea that she is more electable. (A lot of said endorsements were made early on. The AFL-CIO is the real endorsement that they're vying for)[/QUOTE]
Perhaps in a Trump scenario she can get a few Republicans and independents but her reputation is atrocious. Also, I think quite a few Bernie supporters would never support her.
Dunno, maybe I'm not getting the woman cards strength.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49339325]Perhaps in a Trump scenario she can get a few Republicans and independents but her reputation is atrocious. Also, I think quite a few Bernie supporters would never support her.
Dunno, maybe I'm not getting the woman cards strength.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of Bernie supporters' feelings towards Clinton before the primaries, if she wins the nomination, she will get the bulk of Bernie's people-- not because they like or support her, but because they hate the other candidate just a little bit more. It won't be a vote for Hillary, but against Trump, Cruz, etc.
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;49339149]Primaries start in February and run until June. You can look at your respective state's primary date here: [url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016"]Democratic Party Presidential Primaries 2016 - Wikipedia[/url][/QUOTE]
Winning Iowa and New Hampshire will be essential for Bernie so that he can build momentum in states where he is losing by up to 35 points.
[editline]17th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49339325]Perhaps in a Trump scenario she can get a few Republicans and independents but her reputation is atrocious. Also, I think quite a few Bernie supporters would never support her.
Dunno, maybe I'm not getting the woman cards strength.[/QUOTE]
Facepunch has a very distorted view of Hillary, at least from my perspective. I don't like her, but she is not that much worse than literally any other Democrat.
She is so far winning most head to head polls, only being troubled by Ben Carson and Marco Rubio. She has a ton of funding and is in the perfect ideological position to counter both Sanders (she will say she is more pragmatic) and any Republican candidate (she will say she's more in touch with Americans on issues like abortion and immigration).
Upon winning, she will be forced to keep her most visible promises while making sure to avoid touching Wall Street and other businesses that funded her. For 2017 to begins without an Obamacare repeal or Planned Parenthood being defunded, you have to go for Hillary if Bernie does not win.
When it comes to her reputation, she seems to have silenced a lot of worries about her e-mails, and the Benghazi thing was a fabricated controversy. Many of her problems also play out among partisan lines, with the most distrustful people being people who would never vote for her anyway.
Sorry for the long rant, I just see a big disconnect between what people say about her and polling data. For example: most Bernie supporters are fine with supporting Clinton, most Democrat polls will show.
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