• Brexit vote site may have been hacked, MPs say in report
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[QUOTE]A voter registration site that crashed in the run-up to last year's EU referendum could have been targeted by a foreign cyber attack, MPs say. The "register to vote" site crashed on 7 June last year just before the deadline for people to sign up to vote. The UK government and electoral administrators blamed a surge in demand after a TV debate. But MPs on the parliamentary Public Administration Committee say a foreign cyber attack could not be ruled out. The committee's chairman, Leave-supporting Conservative MP Bernard Jenkin,told BBC News there was no "hard and fast" evidence the registration site had been targeted. But he said the committee's report had included the possibility that the crash "may have been caused by a DDOS (distributed denial of service attack) using botnets" in its report "on advice". [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39564289[/url]
Interesting development. However, it looks like they are desperately trying to hold on to at least some possibility that the referendum results are illegal and should be disregarded. Can't say I blame them, Brexit movement is dumb to the core.
How the hell is signing up to vote still a thing in modern democracies? It's a [I]right[/I] to vote, not privilege, option or chance to vote.
[QUOTE=CruelAddict;52092914]Interesting development. However, it looks like they are desperately trying to hold on to at least some possibility that the referendum results are illegal and should be disregarded. Can't say I blame them, Brexit movement is dumb to the core.[/QUOTE] The committee chairman who is mentioning this is a leave-supporter.
so there's no actual proof of absolutely anything related to a cyberattack, they've just considered that it could maybe potentially be a hypothetical possibility
[QUOTE=Riller;52092915]How the hell is signing up to vote still a thing in modern democracies? It's a [I]right[/I] to vote, not privilege, option or chance to vote.[/QUOTE] Generally if you want to tabulate the votes electronically and anonymously, it's a good idea to make sure you can tie every ballot to an unique ID to prevent fraud. Doing a sign-up like this is a simple and quick way to do so--everybody who wants to exercise their voting rights can elect into the process. Nobody would be officially blocked from voting, although I suppose you could make the case that everyone should be signed up automatically (pity on the desk jockey who has to put all that together). I'm not into europolitics though and I'm pretty sure this wasn't meant to be a legally binding referendum, so I'm​ mostly just coming up with this on the spot. Feel free to correct me if you know more.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52098375]Generally if you want to tabulate the votes electronically and anonymously, it's a good idea to make sure you can tie every ballot to an unique ID to prevent fraud. Doing a sign-up like this is a simple and quick way to do so--everybody who wants to exercise their voting rights can elect into the process. Nobody would be officially blocked from voting, although I suppose you could make the case that everyone should be signed up automatically (pity on the desk jockey who has to put all that together). I'm not into europolitics though and I'm pretty sure this wasn't meant to be a legally binding referendum, so I'm​ mostly just coming up with this on the spot. Feel free to correct me if you know more.[/QUOTE] if brexit wasnt meant to be legally binding then why go ahead with it once it's clear its stupid?
[QUOTE=Riller;52092915]How the hell is signing up to vote still a thing in modern democracies? It's a [I]right[/I] to vote, not privilege, option or chance to vote.[/QUOTE] You are automatically accepted when you apply. It's an anti-fraud thing, so your name goes onto your local electoral register. You have to tell them your name when you go in, and they cross you off the list they have (generated when people sign up) so you can't vote twice. You could, however, vote in someone else's name, but that's limited to how many names you want to steal. You are also told where to go and vote, so you can't go to multiple polling stations. You also get fined if you don't register, sooooo, it's not like they are removing people's rights to vote, they are just making sure that the votes are legal and valid. [editline]13th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Svinnik;52098410]if brexit wasnt meant to be legally binding then why go ahead with it once it's clear its stupid?[/QUOTE] Political suicide to go against the will of the people, no matter how narrow "the people" margin is.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;52098410]if brexit wasnt meant to be legally binding then why go ahead with it once it's clear its stupid?[/QUOTE] You would be hard-pressed to keep your seat reneging on such a consequential campaign promise to 24 million people.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;52098410]if brexit wasnt meant to be legally binding then why go ahead with it once it's clear its stupid?[/QUOTE] Because the "will of the people"~. Basically a bunch of lemmings want to leap of a cliff and stopping them isn't a good idea if you want to remain king of the lemmings so we just have to leap too because "party over country".
did anyone actually have any misgivings prior to the referendum?
[QUOTE=Chonch;52098375]Generally if you want to tabulate the votes electronically and anonymously, it's a good idea to make sure you can tie every ballot to an unique ID to prevent fraud. Doing a sign-up like this is a simple and quick way to do so--everybody who wants to exercise their voting rights can elect into the process. Nobody would be officially blocked from voting, [B]although I suppose you could make the case that everyone should be signed up automatically (pity on the desk jockey who has to put all that together).[/B][/QUOTE] You're replying to someone from a country where that is actually the case. In Denmark, everyone has a unique ID number from birth, and from when you turn 18 you get personal voting ballots sent via mail. I'm not knowledgeable about UK or US identification systems, but it shouldn't be that difficult to implement? I mean, according to [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp8IAUouus]this CGP grey video[/URL], America already has de facto ID numbers via social security cards, except shitty and insecure because Americans didn't want official ID numbers. I actually didn't know UK didn't have something like it. It should be standard for modern democracies.
[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;52098997]You're replying to someone from a country where that is actually the case. In Denmark, everyone has a unique ID number from birth, and from when you turn 18 you get personal voting ballots sent via mail. I'm not knowledgeable about UK or US identification systems, but it shouldn't be that difficult to implement? I mean, according to [URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp8IAUouus]this CGP grey video[/URL], America already has de facto ID numbers via social security cards, except shitty and insecure because Americans didn't want official ID numbers. I actually didn't know UK didn't have something like it. It should be standard for modern democracies.[/QUOTE] I can't speak for UK, but I believe the prevailing concept against such a system in the US is that government does not grant citizenship to anyone; you are assumed a citizen when in the country--hence why non-citizens are able to do things like register to vote, fly planes, or get scholarships. It's a stubborn holdout of personal independence that just so happens to be bolstered by our simultaneous need for aggressive taxation
And guess who will be blamed for these hacks?
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