So my mum bought me a rassbery pi and it should be arriving in a week or 2 and im not sure about linux. Honestly I'm not a big fan of linux, I'm a bit biased as the only linux I ever tried was mint 10 on my grandads pc, I spent about 3 hours trying to get the floppy drive to work becuase I was trying to get files from a midi keyboard. 3 hours where spent trying to edit files that I didnt have permision to. In the end the computor wouldnt even turn on.
Anyway my hating aside, what do I need to know about linux. I think the pi runs fedora but I will have to double check. What saftware do you think I should get, utilities and the like?
I think you should spend the next week or two (until the RPi arrives) in a virtual machine with Linux distributions, trying everything out, and maybe even installing it on your computer. Linux is a completely different thing from Windows, and will probably take a while to get used to, so that's what I suggest, especially since you're probably not going to install much other than Linux to the ARM device.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;36180377]So my mum bought me a rassbery pi and it should be arriving in a week or 2 and im not sure about linux. Honestly I'm not a big fan of linux, I'm a bit biased as the only linux I ever tried was mint 10 on my grandads pc, I spent about 3 hours trying to get the floppy drive to work becuase I was trying to get files from a midi keyboard. 3 hours where spent trying to edit files that I didnt have permision to. In the end the computor wouldnt even turn on.
Anyway my hating aside, what do I need to know about linux. I think the pi runs fedora but I will have to double check. What saftware do you think I should get, utilities and the like?
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I've never had a problem running Linux Mint. I'm fairly sure you did even not even search the Google for help otherwise you would not of spent 3 hours trying to gain access to them restricted files. I've personally never had a problem running Linux Mint although I've only ever used it for small to medium tasks. I've also found that Linux Mint just works and has better driver support for my PC and laptops than XP or Win7 out of the box. Linux Mint is just awesome.
There really is no reason to hate Linux as if something gos wrong its usually because you did something wrong.
What you need to know depends on what you want to do. Do you want to setup an Arch web server? Do you want to setup an Arch file server? Do you want to do programming and connect devices to the Rasberry Pi that can be controlled via your program? Do you want to attach the Rasberry to an RC car that is equipped with a hidden webcam and a ALFA 1W wifi adapter. Do you want to use it to setup a PirateBox that is also equipped with a ALFA 1W wifi adapter? Do you want to attach a small screen to the Rasberry Pi? I think the question you need to ask yourself is "What do I want to do with this?" only then can you ask your self "What do I need to know to do this?".
The Rasberry PI will run any Linux Distro that has an ARM build. I believe the SD card you get with the Rasberry PI is preloaded with their own distro that is based on Fedora.
Just like what T3hGamerDK said you should install a Linux distro such as Ubuntu, Fredora, Archlinux (My Favourite), Linux Mint or one of the million other distros out there in a Virtual Machine to learn the basics and get used to the way Linux is set out as its very different from Windows.
I personally just love Linux.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;36181169]I'm fairly sure you did even not even search the Google for help otherwise you would not of spent 3 hours trying to gain access to them restricted files[/QUOTE]
3 hours is an exageration, but it was along time, I googled how to gain access to the drive, checked it on multiple linux forums so I knew what I was doing. I copied the text I had to add to the file. When I tried to access the file I needed to edit it wouldnt let me as I didnt have permision (The file wasnt mine apparently) I then spent a very long time trying to find a way round not being able to access the file, by making a new file with the same content, but different permisions. That didnt work as the file couldnt be overwriten in any way. I found a script to put into the console or what ever its called. After I put it in the text colour changed to red I think, and when I typed anything it was like I was a different user.
I just wanted to point that out
Also, thanks for the helpfull advice, Im going to try it right away.
[QUOTE=absolalone111;36206503]3 hours is an exageration, but it was along time, I googled how to gain access to the drive, checked it on multiple linux forums so I knew what I was doing. I copied the text I had to add to the file. When I tried to access the file I needed to edit it wouldnt let me as I didnt have permision (The file wasnt mine apparently) I then spent a very long time trying to find a way round not being able to access the file, by making a new file with the same content, but different permisions. That didnt work as the file couldnt be overwriten in any way. I found a script to put into the console or what ever its called. After I put it in the text colour changed to red I think, and when I typed anything it was like I was a different user.
I just wanted to point that out
Also, thanks for the helpfull advice, Im going to try it right away.[/QUOTE]
Sudo. All you had to do was use sudo. Sudo will allow you to access any file as root (think of it as admin). Most linux distros just require your account to be "administrators", and when you type "sudo <command>" it will just ask you for your password, as opposed to plain su, which turns the terminal into a root terminal, provided you have the root password. Sudo is "short" for superuser do. Linux may seem hard to learn at the start, but using google correctly and asking for help here (ignoring the assholes who don't help, and looking at the lovely people who do) and you should be fine. You may even find that you like linux more than windows. Overall, just experiment with it. Use virtualbox and install it there so you can do no real harm. For a beginner I suggest Ubuntu, but others may disagree. It's the "beginner" linux.
That it's spelt raspberry.
I just got my raspberry pi this week.
I think I'll use it as a fileserver, or a media center.
Am I the only one impressed by this?
The mobo is a credit-card sized piece and it runs quake 3. (Not that Quake 3 is much).
Still has better graphics capabilities than my laptop's Intel HD3000 (GMA865) 8MB crapset.
[QUOTE=Charrax;36255773]Am I the only one impressed by this?
The mobo is a credit-card sized piece and it runs quake 3. (Not that Quake 3 is much).[/QUOTE]
Meh, I'm not really impressed but it sure will be a handy little device. I just wish they could make a more expensive model with better specs. Like a 1,2 GHz processor and 1GB RAM.
[QUOTE=Sestie;36257151]Meh, I'm not really impressed but it sure will be a handy little device. I just wish they could make a more expensive model with better specs. Like a 1,2 GHz processor and 1GB RAM.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1185473"]IF you don't need the ethernet port and GPIO pins[/URL]
I was messing around with mine yesterday, and I found out that it doesn't have a 2D Xorg driver, so running something like Openbox or XFCE is slow as balls because the CPU has to draw everything.
AFAIK, it only has the OpenGL driver, and it doesn't work within X. You have to run things like XBMC or Quake from a framebuffer. Kind of sucks.
[editline]9th June 2012[/editline]
I was reading some forum post about how Broadcom isn't going to make the Xorg driver, and they don't even know how to do it. Eventually the Xorg developers might do it, so it'll probably be a while before it gets done.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36261355]I was messing around with mine yesterday, and I found out that it doesn't have a 2D Xorg driver, so running something like Openbox or XFCE is slow as balls because the CPU has to draw everything.
AFAIK, it only has the OpenGL driver, and it doesn't work within X. You have to run things like XBMC or Quake from a framebuffer. Kind of sucks.
[editline]9th June 2012[/editline]
I was reading some forum post about how Broadcom isn't going to make the Xorg driver, and they don't even know how to do it. Eventually the Xorg developers might do it, so it'll probably be a while before it gets done.[/QUOTE]
Seems like it was wise of me to bail on purchasing a Rpi.
[QUOTE=Van-man;36261620]Seems like it was wise of me to bail on purchasing a Rpi.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I totally didn't know I ordered it until last week.
I "registered my interest" on Element 14 back in March, and I guess I forgot that I gave them my credit card number, so I got an email with the tracking number last week and I was like holy crap when did I order this?
[QUOTE=Charrax;36255773]Am I the only one impressed by this?
The mobo is a credit-card sized piece and it runs quake 3. (Not that Quake 3 is much).[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I'll be holding my phone and for a few seconds I'll remember the fact that I'm literally holding a computer that can place calls, browse the web, install applications, have a new OS installed on, and costs a few hundred dollars. In my hand.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36262492]Yeah I totally didn't know I ordered it until last week.
I "registered my interest" on Element 14 back in March, and I guess I forgot that I gave them my credit card number, so I got an email with the tracking number last week and I was like holy crap when did I order this?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure I'm not the only interested party but if you decide to get rid of it, message me in #luahelp.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36261355]I was messing around with mine yesterday, and I found out that it doesn't have a 2D Xorg driver, so running something like Openbox or XFCE is slow as balls because the CPU has to draw everything.
AFAIK, it only has the OpenGL driver, and it doesn't work within X. You have to run things like XBMC or Quake from a framebuffer. Kind of sucks.
[editline]9th June 2012[/editline]
I was reading some forum post about how Broadcom isn't going to make the Xorg driver, and they don't even know how to do it. Eventually the Xorg developers might do it, so it'll probably be a while before it gets done.[/QUOTE]
What is the problem with running something in a frame buffer (I don't really know what that means)? I was interested in purchasing a Raspberry Pi and turn it into a little media center and host XBMC.
I bought one and it's been on back order since March and I kind of feel as if I haven't done something as it has the 'order confirmed' text in red and nothing's really happening and I feel stupid.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;36287954]What is the problem with running something in a frame buffer (I don't really know what that means)? I was interested in purchasing a Raspberry Pi and turn it into a little media center and host XBMC.[/QUOTE]
Slow. No hardware acceleration, all done on the CPU. Seeing as the Pi's CPU really isn't all that powerful, this is a problem.
However this only seems to apply within the X server, XBMC and various games that don't use X should run fine.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;36287954]What is the problem with running something in a frame buffer (I don't really know what that means)? I was interested in purchasing a Raspberry Pi and turn it into a little media center and host XBMC.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with it. It just sucks you can't get 2D acceleration in X.
Apparently 3D acceleration works from a framebuffer, but I haven't gotten anything to work yet.
[editline]11th June 2012[/editline]
Also, don't use Raspbmc. The maintainer guy is a god damn scrublord.
It doesn't even come with XBMC installed. Apparently it's supposed to download it after you boot up, except it doesn't.
And the stated username/password combo on the wiki is wrong. It said to use pi/raspberry, which doesn't work. Some guy in the comments said to use root/root, which did work. Then the maintainer replied yesterday saying "Wrong, it's actually pi/raspberry". No it's fucking not.
I'm going to find out where he keeps his XBMC files and just put that shit on vanilla Debian because Raspbmc sucks ass.
(I tried compiling XBMC for raspi myself but I couldn't get it to work)
[editline]11th June 2012[/editline]
This the dude running Raspbmc.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Ak21B.png[/img]
Get this spergy ~tacticool~ overclocking bullshit off my Raspi!
go into the /boot/config.txt and remove the overclock command.
Yeah, but I'm not going to bother with this shit distro anymore.
Back to the Debian build from Raspberrypi.org.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36292928]Yeah, but I'm not going to bother with this shit distro anymore.
Back to the Debian build from Raspberrypi.org.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, looking at his twitter he seems a bit of a dick. Could always make your own and get more popular somehow :)
[QUOTE=gparent;36293248]Yeah, looking at his twitter he seems a bit of a dick. Could always make your own and get more popular somehow :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm going through some of his scripts to figure out dependencies and crap and I'm going to take a shot at making some .deb packages for Xbmc.
[url]http://svn.stmlabs.com/svn/raspbmc/testing/[/url]
This looks promising;
[url]http://svn.stmlabs.com/svn/raspbmc/testing/oscore/prep.sh[/url]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36293272]
This looks promising;
[url]http://svn.stmlabs.com/svn/raspbmc/testing/oscore/prep.sh[/url][/QUOTE]
This is redundant. How does he not know that /home/username is automatically chown'd when you add a user?
[code]
useradd -p ykibb2GGLUU.o pi -k /etc/skel -d /home/pi -m -s /bin/bash
chown pi:pi /home/pi
[/code]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36292403]
Get this spergy ~tacticool~ overclocking bullshit off my Raspi![/QUOTE]
How exactly is overclocking "spergy tacticool bullshit"?
I'm not 13 anymore. I don't care about that extra 0.0001fps in CRYYYYSIS.
[editline]12th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Niteshifter;36297863]This is redundant. How does he not know that /home/username is automatically chown'd when you add a user?
[code]
useradd -p ykibb2GGLUU.o pi -k /etc/skel -d /home/pi -m -s /bin/bash
chown pi:pi /home/pi
[/code][/QUOTE]
Yeah, and this script explains why the username/password he posted on his wiki didn't work, because it's not actually part of the install image. It has to be run from a script when it starts up which is retarded.
Hey, uh, why not just roll that all into the .img file instead of relying on this stupid script to run (because it doesn't)
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;36298487]How exactly is overclocking "spergy tacticool bullshit"?[/QUOTE]
It's unnecessary and is a stupid thing to do when you're making a user distribution.
I posted something on Twitter like "The raspbmc dude is a god damn amateur" like on Monday. Today he responded to me. (I didn't even @ him, so its funny how he searches himself on Twitter)
Then he retweeted me so all his butt buddies could troll me.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/waXvT.png[/img]
[editline]13th June 2012[/editline]
Little do they know, I got my compiled XBMC to at least launch yesterday. Still needs to work to prevent crashing, but this is the beginning of the end of Raspbmc.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36315761]Lots of text.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow.
dev ego
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