[QUOTE]A terrible future could be on the horizon, a future which rips one of the greatest tools of medicine out of the hands of doctors.
A simple cut to your finger could leave you fighting for your life. Luck will play a bigger role in your future than any doctor could.
The most basic operations - getting an appendix removed or a hip replacement - could become deadly.
Cancer treatments and organ transplants could kill you. Childbirth could once again become a deadly moment in a woman's life.
It's a future without antibiotics.[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21702647[/url]
Fucking asshole bacteria. Where does get off? Honestly.
We need to have a few years with little to no prescribed antibiotics to allow bacteria to return to their wild type. Only life threatening illness should be given antibiotics, no more throwing pills at every kid with a sore throat.
And as always, it was caused by people being stupid and abusing a wonderful thing and now it's not useful any more.
Still, I somehow doubt there's suddenly going to be some ultra-bacterium that's resistant to every kind of antibiotic that exists in the world.
[QUOTE=imptastick;39876258]We need to have a few years with little to no prescribed antibiotics to allow bacteria to return to their wild type. Only life threatening illness should be given antibiotics, no more throwing pills at every kid with a sore throat.[/QUOTE]
i don't think you understand how antibiotic resistance works...
jesus that snippet in the op is so horrifying. it's like the voiceover for a generic low-budget horror film trailer.
[QUOTE=imptastick;39876258]We need to have a few years with little to no prescribed antibiotics to allow bacteria to return to their wild type. Only life threatening illness should be given antibiotics, no more throwing pills at every kid with a sore throat.[/QUOTE]
Antibiotic resistance means they are evolving to be resistant to them. They don't have a temporary immunity, they are starting to breed and have the resistance.
[QUOTE=zzzz;39876279]i don't think you understand how antibiotic resistance works...[/QUOTE]
Actually I do, the reason bacteria become resistant is because there is selective pressure by the antibiotics. This resistance comes at a cost to the bacteria, remove the selective pressure and the wild type begins to outproduce the resistant strains. This method has been used to treat aids patients who have resistant strains, they are completely removed from treatment for awhile then they hit hard with a mix of drugs once the wild type has reestablished.
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[QUOTE=007JamesBond007;39876310]Antibiotic resistance means they are evolving to be resistant to them. They don't have a temporary immunity, they are starting to breed and have the resistance.[/QUOTE]
I know, but without the selective pressures of antibacterials the wildtype is most fit.
One Source:[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_10.html[/url]
We will just invent new ones
We can all thank India for this problem, they produce and use so many antibiotics it's insane. It's kind of hard to blame most of the Indian people because they live in terrible conditions (slums etc.), they should stand up to their goverment and demand better living conditions.
[QUOTE=IPK;39876364]We will just invent new ones[/QUOTE]
It's not easy to invent a new antibiotic, and even if we invent a new one will it work on superbacteria?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;39876221]Fucking asshole bacteria. Where does get off? Honestly.[/QUOTE]
Our fault for over prescribing antibiotics, causing them to become resistant to them
We were learning about this in Biology today. Apparently a lot of it has come about due to over prescribing antibiotics.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;39876276]And as always, it was caused by people being stupid and abusing a wonderful thing and now it's not useful any more.
Still, I somehow doubt there's suddenly going to be some ultra-bacterium that's resistant to every kind of antibiotic that exists in the world.[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding? Dude, those bacteria [i]already[/i] exist, D. Diff, MRSA, and possibly far far more terrifying than any of those is the fact that we're now starting to see Tuberculosis that's resistant to antibiotics.
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[QUOTE=IPK;39876364]We will just invent new ones[/QUOTE]
Doesn't work like that.
Look around you, humans evolve, animals evolve, everything evolves. It applies to everything in cosmos; even the tiniest things you'll never be able to notice.
Decades ago, a simple cold could be a life-threatening virus. But as time passes by, our abilities expand; just like everything else.
Imagine that all human beings are bacteria. We won't go down, we will do anything to survive; our technology becomes more advanced, and our knowledge expands.
Seems quite comparable.
Bring on the nanomachines!
quickly :(
What do you think the viruses and bacteria will do when they and their friends die in large masses to these drugs invented by man?
Obviously they will live to fight on, and righteously so! Godspeed my fellow bacterial specimen. You've done us all proud.
Why don't countries like USA make antibiotics prescription only like in Finland.
Would help dealing with those antibiotic resistant bacteria.
[QUOTE=IPK;39876364]We will just invent new ones[/QUOTE]
Almost every antibiotic you've ever taken has been penicillin or a derivative, there are VERY few other, and those that do exist usually only work on specific bacteria
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[QUOTE=Garik;39877203]Why don't countries like USA make antibiotics prescription only like in Finland.
Would help dealing with those antibiotic resistant bacteria.[/QUOTE]
Doctors would also need to stop prescribing them for the smallest things
[QUOTE=Garik;39877203]Why don't countries like USA make antibiotics prescription only like in Finland.
Would help dealing with those antibiotic resistant bacteria.[/QUOTE]
I believe they are, the problem is doctors over prescribe. Some doctors throw antibiotics at everyone who comes in.
Well if only people would stop dumping antibiotics on the heads of chickens, pigs and fish. Bacteria would have a harder time adapting.
Evolution strikes back!
These resistant bacterias are like mother earths own antibiotics against us cancerous humans. Natural population control.
You know it is true. ;P
Nano technology to the rescue!
[QUOTE=imptastick;39876322]Actually I do, the reason bacteria become resistant is because there is selective pressure by the antibiotics. This resistance comes at a cost to the bacteria, remove the selective pressure and the wild type begins to outproduce the resistant strains. This method has been used to treat aids patients who have resistant strains, they are completely removed from treatment for awhile then they hit hard with a mix of drugs once the wild type has reestablished.
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I know, but without the selective pressures of antibacterials the wildtype is most fit.
One Source:[url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_10.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Why would the resistant strains be outproduced? They would become the established population, and stay that way, there is no reason the resistant strains would lose footing.
[QUOTE=parsimony;39877702]Why would the resistant strains be outproduced? They would become the established population, and stay that way, there is no reason the resistant strains would lose footing.[/QUOTE]
Resistance often comes with reproductive or developmental costs, when there is antibacterials they are the most fit and take over, but without them the wild type starts to take over because they are not hindered by the costs of resistance. The video in the source I posted explains it toward the middle of the clip, here is the direct video link: [url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/quicktime/l_104_10.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Stalk;39877623]Evolution strikes back!
These resistant bacterias are like mother earths own antibiotics against us cancerous humans. Natural population control.[/QUOTE]
Someone should slap you with a biology textbook, we're part of nature dumbass.
Here is the problem, you can buy antibiotics like candy. No shit they're going to become more immune.
That's what you get from using antibiotics for complete retarded things, like mixing them in food for pig/cows even if they don't have any illness at all, or overusing them in general
I've only taken antibiotics once, is it better for you if you don't take them?
[QUOTE=Rapist;39878218]I've only taken antibiotics once, is it better for you if you don't take them?[/QUOTE]
For minor stuff it is better to just let it run its course, your immune system grows stronger and you dont have the negative side affects of antibiotics (Such as losing beneficial gut bacteria). On the other hand in some cases they are great tools and can save your life.
[QUOTE=Rapist;39878218]I've only taken antibiotics once, is it better for you if you don't take them?[/QUOTE]
As a kid, my doctor barely ever prescribed me antibiotics. Nowadays, I don't really ever get sick, and if I do it lasts a ridiculously small amount of time. I'd like to think the two are somewhat related.
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