• UK nuclear submarine damaged in collision off Gibraltar
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[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36852365"]Source.[/URL] [QUOTE]One of the UK's newest nuclear-powered submarines has docked in Gibraltar after a collision with a merchant vessel during a training exercise. The Royal Navy said it has launched an immediate investigation after HMS Ambush was involved in the "glancing collision" while submerged off the coast of the British territory. There is "some external damage" but no crew members were injured, it added. The Astute-class attack submarine's nuclear reactor was undamaged. In a statement on the Ministry of Defence website, the Navy said the incident took place at approximately 13:30 local time on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]
I'll never understand how other boats can let a fucking merchant sneak up on them. They aren't quiet, and they damn sure aren't that hard to see.
Whoops!
"The Best" navy in the world ladies and gentlemen
[QUOTE=SpearmintSheep;50748950]"The Best" navy in the world ladies and gentlemen[/QUOTE] Don't pull that card, this stuff is common and consider the fact they may not have used active sonar so seeing something that isn't moving or moving very slowly is hard as hell with passive only.
thank god we paid for the refresh otherwise the AA would never have come out and fixed it
[QUOTE=SpearmintSheep;50748950]"The Best" navy in the world ladies and gentlemen[/QUOTE] You know these kind of accidents happen to every navy right? [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_incidents_since_2000[/url]
[QUOTE=SpearmintSheep;50748950]"The Best" navy in the world ladies and gentlemen[/QUOTE] hey man it's just as easy to hit a small boat while on a surface ship too it wasnt as funny as i thought when it actually happened although leaving auto-pilot on was more or less their mistake but in the middle of the sea i wouldnt expect to be clipped by a warship
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;50748980][b] this stuff is common [/b][/QUOTE] That's hardly reassuring, you'd think the navy/navies would of learned after the first time couple of times. I'd hate to be some poor rating taking a shit or something and then hearing a thud.
[QUOTE=SpearmintSheep;50749029]That's hardly reassuring, you'd think the navy/navies would of learned after the first time couple of times. I'd hate to be some poor rating taking a shit or something and then hearing a thud.[/QUOTE] It's the nature of submarines, on exercise especially remaining undetected is paramount with that though you run a lot of risk not knowing what is around you in the way of small craft or other things trying to hide from you especially. There was an incident of both a French and British submarine hitting each other at depth because they were so undetectable.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50748640]I'll never understand how other boats can let a fucking merchant sneak up on them. They aren't quiet, and they damn sure aren't that hard to see.[/QUOTE] As a sonarman, I can tell you it isn't quite that simple. There's a lot of reasons why something like this could happen. I can't go into technical details as far as what happens on the system and whatnot, but an inexperienced watch team (such as one taking part in training on a new sub and sonar system) can misinterpret data and get ran the fuck over. Basically, there's things that can happen with sonar where you think someone's far away and then oh god dammit they're right on fucking top of us. Also, coming to periscope depth is an inherently dangerous evolution. Even if every precaution is taken and the watch teams are masters in their fields, you can end up in bad situations and get ran over. You have to remember, driving a sub is like navigating through a pitch black room with people in it and trying to gauge where they are/not run into them based solely on the sound of their footsteps.
...So this is the kind of "training exercise" excuse they use when shit actually went down right? Like a nuclear submarine just collided with a merchant vessel...
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;50749396]As a sonarman, I can tell you it isn't quite that simple. There's a lot of reasons why something like this could happen. I can't go into technical details as far as what happens on the system and whatnot, but an inexperienced watch team (such as one taking part in training on a new sub and sonar system) can misinterpret data and get ran the fuck over. Basically, there's things that can happen with sonar where you think someone's far away and then oh god dammit they're right on fucking top of us. Also, coming to periscope depth is an inherently dangerous evolution. Even if every precaution is taken and the watch teams are masters in their fields, you can end up in bad situations and get ran over. You have to remember, driving a sub is like navigating through a pitch black room with people in it and trying to gauge where they are/not run into them based solely on the sound of their footsteps.[/QUOTE] While I'm sure you can't discuss it, I have no doubt you guys on sonar can't see a thing if the sub is doing 32 kts or something.
[QUOTE=download;50749423]While I'm sure you can't discuss it, I have no doubt you guys on sonar can't see a thing if the sub is doing 32 kts or something.[/QUOTE] Sonar is never blind.
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50748640]I'll never understand how other boats can let a fucking merchant sneak up on them. They aren't quiet, and they damn sure aren't that hard to see.[/QUOTE] Not even a submarine can easily sneak past it.
I find it funny how a Sub named the HMS [I]'Ambush'[/I] bumped into something.
So, did we take their insurance information? What exactly is the maximum coverage for a sub? :v:
[QUOTE=Terminutter;50753843]So, did we take their insurance information? What exactly is the maximum coverage for a sub? :v:[/QUOTE] We've only got third party, fire and theft
[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;50748640]I'll never understand how other boats can let a fucking merchant sneak up on them. They aren't quiet, and they damn sure aren't that hard to see.[/QUOTE] Bad watchmen or wrong info on sonar I would guess.
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