• NATO Threatens Weinstein Co With NC-17 Rating For ‘Bully’ Documentary
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[release]The fight over [I]Bully[/I] continues, with the National Association of Theatre Owners now making its own threats. News came out [URL="http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/harvey-weinstein-threatens-to-break-with-mpaa-fed-up-with-ratings-system/"]last week[/URL] that the MPAA upheld its R-rating for The Weinstein Company’s Tribeca 2011 doc about school bullying and since then the Weinstein Co has considered releasing the doc unrated and even to boycott the MPAA altogether, a move could have implications for its future releases. If TWC indeed goes ahead with releasing the film unrated, NATO said today in a letter to Weinstein boss Harvey Weinstein that it will urge members to consider the Lee Hirsch-directed film an NC-17 movie. In the letter (see below), NATO president and CEO John Fithian said he would “have no choice but to encourage my theater owner members to treat unrated movies from The Weinstein Company in the same manner as they treat unrated movies from anyone else. In most cases, that means enforcement as though the movies were rated NC-17 — where no one under the age of 18 can be admitted even with accompanying parents or guardians.” TWC said Tuesday in a statement its sole purpose for releasing the film is “educating children and highlighting how bullying has become a national crisis.” It added that Weinstein principals Harvey and his brother Bob were father to four children and see this as a “personal matter and one deserving its due respect from the MPAA and NATO.” Meanwhile, a Michigan high school student began petition urging the MPAA to give[I]Bully[/I] a PG-13, which would make it more accessible to middle school and high school students. As of Tuesday afternoon, it had 94,000 signatures.Here’s the NATO letter to Harvey Weinstein: [QUOTE]Dear Harvey, The National Association of Theatre Owners partners with the MPAA in the rules and operations of the Classification and Ratings Administration. Exhibition representatives participated yesterday in the appeal of “Bully.” As you know, the appeals board voted to uphold the ratings board’s decision that the prevalence of harsh language in “Bully” warranted an “R” rating. In response, you released a statement criticizing the decision, and threatening to remove your company’s movies from the ratings process. As the father of a nine-year-old child, I am personally grateful that TWC has addressed the important issue of bullying in such a powerful documentary. The filmmaker and especially the brave young people who participated in this project deserve our attention and respect. Nonetheless, I believe that your public response to the decision of the appeals board is unwise. Surveys of America’s parents reflect their very strong concern with the use of harsh language in movies. The vast majority of parents surveyed have indicated that the type of language used in “Bully” should receive an automatic “R” rating. You ask us to ignore the preferences of America’s parents and our own ratings rules because of the merit of this movie. Yet were the MPAA and NATO to waive the ratings rules whenever we believed that a particular movie had merit, or was somehow more important than other movies, we would no longer be neutral parties applying consistent standards, but rather censors of content based on personal mores. You recently released the award-winning movie “King’s Speech” and must know the language rules very well. You should not have been surprised at the rating for “Bully.” I have nothing but tremendous respect for you and the work of TWC. Our industry is so much the better for your involvement. But if you decide to withdraw your support and participation in the rating system, and begin to release movies without ratings, I will have no choice but to encourage my theater owner members to treat unrated movies from The Weinstein Company in the same manner as they treat unrated movies from anyone else. In most cases, that means enforcement as though the movies were rated NC-17 – where no one under the age of 18 can be admitted even with accompanying parents or guardians. Thank you for your consideration of these thoughts. And the best of luck to you on Sunday. Sincerely yours, John Fithian President & CEO NATO [/QUOTE] [/release] [URL=http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/in-bully-fight-nato-threatens-twc-with-nc-17]Source[/url] [video=youtube;rjjeHeAzZZM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjjeHeAzZZM[/video] [URL=http://www.change.org/petitions/mpaa-dont-let-the-bullies-win-give-bully-a-pg-13-instead-of-an-r-rating?utm_medium=email&utm_source=action_alert]Petition to change the rating from R to PG-13[/url]
Could have made the title less sensationalist. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/AdRgA.png[/IMG]
Blame Deadline for that
[QUOTE=Gereight;34918784]Could have made the title less sensationalist.[/QUOTE] wheres the fun in that?
[quote] National Association of Theatre Owners [/quote] Wasn't really necessary to abbreviate that as NATO.
It's actual abbreviation is NATO. Plus why would actual-NATO be rating movies?
I was thinking of the other NATO, was very confused.
nice title, dipshit [B]tl;dr for people who don't bother reading past the thread title:[/B] TWC wants their movie to be rated PG13 despite its use of language that would get any other movie rated R [I]simply because of its content[/I] - NATO (no, not the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) says no, TWC considers pulling out of the movie rating system - in which case, NATO has no choice but to treat unrated films as NC-17
[QUOTE=Raidyr;34918863]It's actual abbreviation is NATO. Plus why would actual-NATO be rating movies?[/QUOTE] why would the US government care what people in other countries do on the internet
what a pack of cunts. these ratings fuckheads should just fuck off, ratings should just be a guideline not a rule.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;34918863]It's actual abbreviation is NATO. Plus why would actual-NATO be rating movies?[/QUOTE] I didn't think there was more than 1 NATO.
I'd fight for the lower rating too. There's nothing clean about harassment. I lived through that bullshit for 12 years and heard the same things from administration I heard in that preview.
I thought this was gonna be a movie about Bully: The Game at first, but this film is not suggestive, but a great protest for schools to wake up about bullying.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;34918899]nice title, dipshit[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/SQqR9.gif[/img]
I've been bullied by fucking teachers. When even the ones you turn to for help are shitting on you, you really have nowhere to turn.
[QUOTE=MIPS;34918997]I'd fight for the lower rating too. There's nothing clean about harassment. I lived through that bullshit for 12 years and heard the same things from administration I heard in that preview.[/QUOTE] Then you should have made friends? It isn't hard, "Hi my name is X, sup"?
[QUOTE=Gereight;34919031]Then you should have made friends? It isn't hard, "Hi my name is X, sup"?[/QUOTE] Don't even start, thats not what this thread is about.
I think this is one of the cases where they should lower the rating, purely so more people can see it and the message they are trying to get across. It wouldn't be the first time anyway, a couple of war documentaries have been lowered from high ratings to PG-13 in the US on the same logic, and I mean ones that have swearing and gore etc. Now if they do release it without a rating can cinema owners tell this organization to get screwed and ignore their "advice" and let anyone in to see it? Or do they have some legal power? I don't quite get how film ratings work in the US.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;34919210]Because it's always that simple for kids who are constantly bullied by everyone :downs:[/QUOTE] Nobody bullies anybody anymore in most of civilized north america anymore though, could just be Canadians.
[QUOTE=Gereight;34919427]Nobody bullies anybody anymore in most of civilized north america anymore though, could just be Canadians.[/QUOTE] lol...
I don't understand the big fuss over it, whether it is R or PG-13 makes no difference to most people.
[QUOTE=Gereight;34919427]Nobody bullies anybody anymore in most of civilized north america anymore though, could just be Canadians.[/QUOTE] There's so much bullying that a documentary has been created to showcase how terrible it is, and you're saying no one does it anymore?
[QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;34919553]There's so much bullying that a documentary has been created to showcase how terrible it is, and you're saying no one does it anymore?[/QUOTE] Not in civilized north america, 15+ age. Where I live, you have kids bring out beer and get drunk. Has solved most problems with kids in my school.
[QUOTE=Gereight;34919031]Then you should have made friends? It isn't hard, "Hi my name is X, sup"?[/QUOTE] Hi Yaika
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34919608]Hi Yaika[/QUOTE] Oh not just me thinking that then.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;34919608]Hi Yaika[/QUOTE] Shutup you Yaika. Yaika. You guys must really be paranoid about the guy if you hate him so much to the point where you use it as a replacement for a argument. I'm a new user, I support freedom and democracy and think the NTC are doing horribly because of the militia's in the country standing in for police, this is apparently a nonsense opinion from the people I've spoken to so far and dictates I am "Yaika". If you guys are so pro-friendliness to your fellow man and are anti bullying why are you being dicks to me, I'm new. Ironically you are against your own views, you should be respecting my opinion about friendship, because where I live people are extremely friendly and very social.
[QUOTE=redBadger;34919529]I don't understand the big fuss over it, whether it is R or PG-13 makes no difference to most people.[/QUOTE] They would have trouble showing it in middle and high school if it was rated R
[QUOTE=zombini;34919026]I've been bullied by fucking teachers. When even the ones you turn to for help are shitting on you, you really have nowhere to turn.[/QUOTE] You can report the teachers to the board for bullying kids, they handle teachers like that [I]very well.[/I]
[QUOTE=Gereight;34919576]Not in civilized north america, 15+ age. Where I live, you have kids bring out beer and get drunk. Has solved most problems with kids in my school.[/QUOTE] Hey, where I went to school, 15+ age, kids were being bullied. So I guess it happens everywhere by your logic. You can't over generalize an entire country's problem based on what you saw (or didn't see) in high school.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;34918899]nice title, dipshit [B]tl;dr for people who don't bother reading past the thread title:[/B] TWC wants their movie to be rated PG13 despite its use of language that would get any other movie rated R [I]simply because of its content[/I] - NATO (no, not the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) says no, TWC considers pulling out of the movie rating system - in which case, NATO has no choice but to treat unrated films as NC-17[/QUOTE] What really happened is, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization threatened the West with something. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/AdRgA.png[/IMG]
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