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[URL]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/19/ted-cruz-says-he-cannot-overstate-the-threats-to-internet-freedom-independent-news-websites-like-drudge/[/URL] [QUOTE]The Texas senator cited the Federal Communications Commission’s move to classify broadband Internet service as a public utility as evidence of the threat. “I’ve been leading the fight against that,” he told TheBlaze. Cruz also cited plans to relinquish U.S. control of the Internet as a move that would “profoundly undermine U.S. interests and undermine free speech.” “America invented the Internet and, I got to say, Obama’s idea to give it away is reminiscent of Jimmy Carter’s idea to give away the Panama Canal,” he said “I have worked to do in the Senate every day is fight to defend freedom on the Internet — to keep the Internet free from the grubby hands of regulators and government,” Cruz added. “To keep it free from taxes and to allow free speech and entrepreneurship to flourish. And I think liberty on the net is every day more and more imperiled by big government and Washington politicians who want to muzzle dissent. [/QUOTE] Somebody kill this conniving piece of shit. [sp]I know the blaze isn't a valid source on anything whatsoever but I figured this was an exception to the rule since he did an actual interview with them[/sp]
No YOU do you piece of shit.
Sir Tim Berners-Lee Invented HTTP 1.0 at CERN. He is British. America didn't invent internet
I'm reading this article... And I'm not really sure what the point of it is. There's no argument here. Ted Cruz seems to think that having the Internet classed as a public utility is bad because of "Fairness Doctrine," which is a card that Republicans like to pull when they talk about the media for some reason, even though the Fairness Doctrine hasn't been invoked in any fashion since the Cold War. But other than that, he never says why it's a bad thing. He just plays to the boogeymen of "The Democrats want to take our freedom of speech" and "The Democrats want to tax the Internet," and... There's just no argument. What we have here is a man taking a policy position without providing a reason, and that's really, really weird.
[QUOTE=woolio1;48941897]I'm reading this article... And I'm not really sure what the point of it is. There's no argument here. Ted Cruz seems to think that having the Internet classed as a public utility is bad because of "Fairness Doctrine," which is a card that Republicans like to pull when they talk about the media for some reason, even though the Fairness Doctrine hasn't been invoked in any fashion since the Cold War.[/QUOTE] You're just wrong about that last point. There have been quite a few high up modern democrats who advocated for the fairness doctrine. A quick Google search brings up an article that talks about it: [URL]http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/138123-nadler-fairness-doctrine-needed-as-long-as-its-the-peoples-airwaves[/URL]
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48941857]Sir Tim Berners-Lee Invented HTTP 1.0 at CERN. He is British. America didn't invent internet[/QUOTE] america invented arpanet though
[QUOTE=sgman91;48941998]You're just wrong about that last point. There have been quite a few high up modern democrats who advocated for the fairness doctrine. A quick Google search brings up an article that talks about it: [URL]http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/138123-nadler-fairness-doctrine-needed-as-long-as-its-the-peoples-airwaves[/URL][/QUOTE] I said it hasn't been invoked. I didn't say it hasn't been discussed.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48941857]Sir Tim Berners-Lee Invented HTTP 1.0 at CERN. He is British. America didn't invent internet[/QUOTE] That is the web America invented the internet
[QUOTE=woolio1;48942069]I said it hasn't been invoked. I didn't say it hasn't been discussed.[/QUOTE] You say that as if the word "invoked" only applies to government enforcement. If that's all you meant, then I don't understand your point. There are plenty of people, including the leadership of a political party, who want to make the fairness doctrine a thing. It's perfectly legitimate to keep it in consideration.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48941857]Sir Tim Berners-Lee Invented HTTP 1.0 at CERN. He is British. America didn't invent internet[/QUOTE] As I'm sure you already figured out but before you get more stars, the world wide Web is different then the internet. The world wide Web provides the means for people to easily access the internet.
"I cannot overstress the threats to intelligence, Ted Cruz views the brain as a threat"
We need to keep the internet free guys....so none of that net neutrality obamacare stuff, we gotta stop spyin on people so lets make sure we renew the patriot act without question, we gotta do this because obummer is in office! These people, cmon they never put their own where their mouths are, though their heads are already up their collective asses so it doesn't really matter [editline]20th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=proboardslol;48941857]Sir Tim Berners-Lee Invented HTTP 1.0 at CERN. He is British. America didn't invent internet[/QUOTE] We sure as hell cut the check to build it, but somewhere along the lines we gave away that infrastructure to private corporations who now greedily accept money to not build out the infastructure
[QUOTE=awcmon;48942060]america invented arpanet though[/QUOTE] But the other half of what made up the Internet came out of projects in the UK and France. I'm not letting you get away with that one. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIQjrMHTv4[/media]
Cruize is so full of shit on internet policy there's nothing to argue against, he's blatantly wrong, net neutrality isn't a tax, it cannot be a tax, and the regulations it imposed are to keep it free for all use not whatever gittery applesauce he thinks it is
[QUOTE=meppers;48942071]That is the web America invented the internet[/QUOTE] It's largely a question of semantics but this isn't really correct either.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48942406]It's largely a question of semantics but this isn't really correct either.[/QUOTE] america built the tools for the internet and those tools were used to build the web
It's a crazy world we live in where a presdential candidate can say he's against freedom of speech on television to the entire world and somehow some people are cool with it
[QUOTE=Rossy167;48942644]It's a crazy world we live in where a presdential candidate can say he's against freedom of speech on television to the entire world and somehow some people are cool with it[/QUOTE] Who are you talking about? I don't know of Cruz saying anything against freedom of speech on TV.
[QUOTE=Map in a box;48942447]america built the tools for the internet and those tools were used to build the web[/QUOTE] Yeah, just like how America "won the 2nd world war for everyone" right?
[QUOTE=sgman91;48943196]Who are you talking about? I don't know of Cruz saying anything against freedom of speech on TV.[/QUOTE] I don't even know, I think the point I was making is that he is saying this shit is crazy, but whatever, I should make sure I'm entirely in control of my mind when I post.
And I cannot over stress to the American people how full of shit you are Ted. What a world we live in huh?
Freedom to oppress your fellow man? Freedom to restrict information? Is the US going the way of North Korea?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48941857]Sir Tim Berners-Lee Invented HTTP 1.0 at CERN. He is British. America didn't invent internet[/QUOTE] World Wide Web !== Internet
[QUOTE=draugur;48943261]Yeah, just like how America "won the 2nd world war for everyone" right?[/QUOTE] How is that even relevant at all He's stating a fact
[QUOTE=draugur;48943261]Yeah, just like how America "won the 2nd world war for everyone" right?[/QUOTE] they also won in vietnam
[QUOTE=milktree;48943750]How is that even relevant at all He's stating a fact[/QUOTE] Saying it's a fact isn't going to make it so, even though we all know how Americans love to pull that card. France invented the internet they had a smaller network and wanted to branch it with other networks beyond theirs. Darpa was just fucking around in their own labs like they always do.
wasn't it Cruz that made a really stupid post on Facebook about Obamacare hurting the internet or some shit that had other conservatives telling him how much of a dipshit he was
[QUOTE=pentium;48942197]But the other half of what made up the Internet came out of projects in the UK and France. I'm not letting you get away with that one. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIQjrMHTv4[/media][/QUOTE] Your video pretty much told me the US government funded DARPA which funded ARPANET. The other stuff is equally important as we see it today, but at the time, and as your video shows, the US Government was the first to it. Thanks US Government
I really don't know where I stand on internet regulation, because the ISP situation is a horrible disaster and I don't know if that can ever really be solved. Classifying the internet as a public service won't bring about a dystopia, but the issue is more that it's moving in the wrong direction. Granting control over the internet to a body that powerful is dangerous, just look at China for a far extreme. If you have a foundation down then it slowly gets easier for someone with malicious intent to take it over. Throwing more regulations on it also makes it even harder for new companies to start up and try to compete with the existing ISPs. It's a matter of whether you would rather be oppressed by government or private companies.
[QUOTE=awcmon;48942060]america invented arpanet though[/QUOTE] and we had JANET. wanna fight about precursors to the internet? because we both win.
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