• Norway to ban ICE car sales from 2025
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[media]https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/738805691528318976[/media] Will find a better source soon. I knew they was considering it back in April but didn't know it actually went through, so maybe I'm late?
Is that some kind of crazy vagina art at the top of the paper?
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;50450007]Is that some kind of crazy vagina art at the top of the paper?[/QUOTE] .. yep.
[QUOTE=Trekintosh;50450007]Is that some kind of crazy vagina art at the top of the paper?[/QUOTE] well it IS from an article about a sex pill for women
lets hope no other countries follow this retarded law proposal in the future
Pretty much the ultimate incentive for autos to develop electric cars.
This is sensationalist bullshit. It's about a party changing their stance on ICE engines. I'll get more info in a minute.
I don't believe it. Seems like a Daily Mail-esque "British values to be BANNED" type of thing at first glance. Need a better source
Well, guess this is why we shouldn't use Twitter as a news source. unless it's like a twitter from a news channel or something i dunno
[QUOTE=smurfy;50450093]I don't believe it. Seems like a Daily Mail-esque "British values to be BANNED" type of thing at first glance. Need a better source[/QUOTE] I know it was a proposal back in April that went through the lower house, I'm not sure if it went through the senate or not yet though. [url]http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/95237/dutch-move-to-ban-diesel-and-petrol-cars-by-2025[/url]
The party called "Høyre" has said themselves that the DN article is misleading.
The source is completely fine, but for some reason they were outraged enough to take a photo of the newspaper without reading the article. [QUOTE]Konkret er partiet blitt enig med Høyre, KrF og Venstre om at «regjeringen i forslaget til Nasjonal Transportplan for 2018–2029 fastsetter måltall for antall lav- og null•utslippskjøretøy, herunder personbiler, varebiler, busser og tunge kjøretøy i 2025 som følger vedtatte klimamål og det teknologiske potensialet fra fagetatene». [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Specifically, the party now agrees with Right, Christian People's party and Left that "The government, following the suggestion of National Transport Plan for 2018-2029 assigns targets/quotas for the ammount of low and zero emmission vehicles, including personal, vans, busses and heavy vehicles in 2025 which follow the accepted clima targets and the technologic potential from the technologic/profession agencies.(like the transport agency)[/QUOTE] In other words they all agree we should have lots of zero emmision cars and basically agrees to set goals for that. There's no law proposition or suggestion of ban. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] In addition, FRP/the progress party already changed their mind.
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[QUOTE=Melnek;50450053]lets hope no other countries follow this retarded law proposal in the future[/QUOTE] Yeah what a stupid fucking idea. Imagine a world where the current car companies would have to adapt to modern technology to reduce emmisions instead of just rebranding the same shit every year.
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;50450144]The source is completely fine, but for some reason they were outraged enough to take a photo of the newspaper without reading the article. In other words they all agree we should have lots of zero emmision cars and basically agrees to set goals for that. There's no law proposition or suggestion of ban. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] In addition, FRP/the progress party already changed their mind.[/QUOTE] The National Transport Plan does include a requirement for all private cars to be zero emissions after 2025 though. [url]http://www.ntp.dep.no/Forside/_attachment/1361769/binary/1109453?_ts=154c39bc008[/url] on page 10. [QUOTE] Climate strategy Introduction of low- and zero-emission technology • After 2025, new private cars, city buses and light vans are to be zero-emission vehicles • By 2030, new heavy vans, 75 % of new long-distance buses, and 50 % of new lorries are to be zero-emission vehicles • By 2030, goods distribution in major uban centres are to be almost emission free [/QUOTE]
Yeah no shit, that's the point of the plan. This is about political stances towards a plan, not a thing going through congress as we speak.
I wouldnt mind enforcing electrics in cities and suburbs but i feel like if your in the deep north with little to no access to anything but your ability to bring gasoline with you on your trips back from market, you should still be allowed to use fuel. Also, batteries dont last as long when dealing with cold, either because theyre using energy to heat themselves up or they're suffering even greater losses from the cold itself.
This is just like the [URL="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4192998/"]series[/URL]!
[QUOTE=Mattk50;50450372]I wouldnt mind enforcing electrics in cities and suburbs but i feel like if your in the deep north with little to no access to anything but your ability to bring gasoline with you on your trips back from market, you should still be allowed to use fuel. Also, batteries dont last as long when dealing with cold, either because theyre using energy to heat themselves up or they're suffering even greater losses from the cold itself.[/QUOTE] Once you get it warm it doesn't take much extra to keep it warm. Regenerative braking and the energy for acceleration should have enough inefficiencies to make up most of that that heat. Most of the range loss in a decent EV in the cold is due to the cabin heater, which Tesla recently said they are looking at CO2 based heat pumps to significantly reduce the use of the resistive heater. If you preheat while plugged in on Tesla's car though you can avoid most of the range loss involved with winter driving, the worst thing you can do is a lot of small journeys and letting the battery cool in-between. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;50450265]Yeah no shit, that's the point of the plan. This is about political stances towards a plan, not a thing going through congress as we speak.[/QUOTE] So reading about this a bit myself from Norwegian sources (with google translate though) it sounds like they are debating on making the National Transport Plan an official law. They all agreed to the 2025 goal but then the next day a party called FRP change their mind on the issue. The debates will be continued in parliament on Monday.
2025 seems like a good target for this, although it would probably be better to wait and see how ev technology progresses before committing to anything. I think the cost needs to be driven down a lot before they can properly replace fossil fuel vehicles.
[QUOTE=Morgen;50450442]So reading about this a bit myself from Norwegian sources (with google translate though) it sounds like they are debating on making the National Transport Plan an official law. They all agreed to the 2025 goal but then the next day a party called FRP change their mind on the issue. The debates will be continued in parliament on Monday.[/QUOTE] No, it's not a law. It's a plan. That basically would fall apart as soon as parties stop supporting it.
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;50450630]No, it's not a law. It's a plan. That basically would fall apart as soon as parties stop supporting it.[/QUOTE] Okay then a more appropriate title would be "Norway plans to ban ICE car sales from 2025" if that is really the case. Norway seems pretty progressive though, is there any chance of the significant parties changing their stance on it? Or a more right wing party taking power? I'm not sure what the political climate is like in Norway.
The current government is probably the most right wing we can ever have. It's ruled by the three most right wing parties with parliamentary support by one of the left parties.
[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;50450685]The current government is probably the most right wing we can ever have. It's ruled by the three most right wing parties with parliamentary support by one of the left parties.[/QUOTE] If the current government is right wing then the left wingers must make Jeremy Corbyn look like Hitler :v: Some dutch parties have also called for a similar ban but nothing has been put in writing for that afaik. In the most recent Queen's speech in the UK she said that the UK will become a world leader in EV adoption (or something along those lines) with a bill to be introduced this parliamentary term. Edit: Queen actually said: “My Ministers will ensure the United Kingdom is at the forefront of technology for new forms of transport, including autonomous and electric vehicles.”. Right now I'm pretty sure we are being beat by Norway in uptake so maybe we will get some good incentives.
The streets of Oslo are already like 60% Teslas.
I imagine in a decade more than 1 in 4 cars will be electric anyway (in Europe at least)
Welp, that's one country I'm never visiting.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50450956]Welp, that's one country I'm never visiting.[/QUOTE] Based on sensationalist news with questionable sources. [editline]o[/editline] Or rather, based on the front page and not the contents.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50450956]Welp, that's one country I'm never visiting.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry you have such a severe allergic reaction to progress.
[QUOTE=TestECull;50450956]Welp, that's one country I'm never visiting.[/QUOTE] It's only plans for new cars. You would be okay since you only drive things from the 70s and 80s :pudge:
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