[quote][b]China has told the US to stop preaching on human rights, after the state department's annual report on the issue criticised China.[/b]
Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the US should concentrate on its own rights issues and stop interfering.
Chinese authorities have launched a major crackdown on dissent recently.
Unveiling the report, US officials expressed particular concern over the recent arrest of the artist Ai Weiwei, an outspoken critic of the government.
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also highlighted reports of other intellectuals and activists being "arbitrarily detained" in recent weeks.
Mr Hong said China was happy to talk about rights "on the basis of equality and mutual respect", but added that Beijing "resolutely opposes" meddling in other country's affairs.
"We advise the US side to reflect on its own human rights issues and not to position itself as a preacher of human rights," he said.
"[The US should] stop using the issue of human rights reports to interfere in other countries' internal affairs."
The state department's annual report criticising China, followed swiftly by a tough riposte from Beijing, is now a well-established diplomatic ritual.
But analysts say this year's tit-for-tat exchange has been sharpened by Beijing's crackdown on dissent.
The US report accused Beijing of stepping up restrictions on lawyers, activists, bloggers and journalists.
The Communist rulers were also accused of tightening controls on civil society and stepping up efforts to control the press and internet access.
The Beijing authorities also increased the use of forced disappearances, house arrest, and detention in illicit "black jails" to punish activists, petitioners and their families, the US report says.
Other countries accused of perpetrating serious rights violations in the report included Iran, Iraq, Burma, North Korea, the Ivory Coast, Zimbabwe, Ukraine, Russia and Belarus.[/quote]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13027427?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url]
Free Tibet and then talk.
Yes we need to stop interfering with their dog and cat dinners.
That must feel like a slap in the face.
Edit: But Zombini is right, I mean who are they(United States) to talk, hypocrites.
Fucking China is right, we need to stop being so selfless and actually fix OUR fucking problems.
EDIT: It's like this; if someone asks you for some money, you'd usually give them some, provided that you are friends with them. But you also needed that money for gas, so you can't use your car, and can't get to work, so they fire you for being constantly late, and you pretty much go on down from there. See what i mean? This is what America does, we give out money and aid to countries that pretty much downright hate us, and then we start sticking our noses into their business and ruining relations further. If America keeps this up for longer, the National Debt will exceed the GDP and cause serious problems if it stays as such for longer than a year.
heh, i've actually seen their past reports on China
they cover some pretty nasty shit
[QUOTE=seano12;29081526]Free Tibet and then talk.[/QUOTE]
Shut down Guantanamo and then talk
Both countries have issues and that's basically what China is saying
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29081568]Shut down Guantanamo and then talk
Both countries have issues and that's basically what China is saying[/QUOTE]
But Obama shut that down. :downs:
No can do China, Everyone should deserve freedom. why don't you hand those shackles to someone else then the US. This is our country, and this is our rules. Don't oppress your power over our nation.
[QUOTE=darkedone02;29081585]This is our country, and this is our rules. Don't oppress your power over our nation.[/QUOTE]It's our giant pile of debt and economic dependence to China too.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29081568]Shut down Guantanamo and then talk
Both countries have issues and that's basically what China is saying[/QUOTE]
To equate China to the US is pretty nuts, hell, just read what is happening to this guy: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_Weiwei[/url]
Hardly the only case of it, but definitely the most prominent in recent days. To equate China's abuses to any country in the West is kind of hard to do. For those interested, China has been releasing things like this for quite a while.
[url]http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-03/12/content_9582218.htm[/url]
There's a big PDF file of their reports (stylized in the same manner as the original US report on Chinese violations), but I can't seem to find it.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;29081648]There's a big PDF file of their reports (stylized in the same manner as the original US report on Chinese violations), but I can't seem to find it.[/QUOTE]
i remember finding them on wikisource
Honestly this is just dumb. As annoyed as I am with the US's idiocy sometimes it comes nowhere near the shit that china does.
[QUOTE=The Pwnapple;29081534]Yes we need to stop interfering with their dog and cat dinners.[/QUOTE]
Human rights, not animal rights dolt.
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[QUOTE=darkedone02;29081585]No can do China, Everyone should deserve freedom. why don't you hand those shackles to someone else then the US. This is our country, and this is our rules. Don't oppress your power over our nation.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me, but what bargaining chip do you have to say to CHina "quit pulling this shit"
They're armed forces pretty much match the US except I'm sure their standing army is much larger. Then there is the fact that the US economy is pretty much owned and driven by China and their cheap as chips shit they produce.
Any human rights abuses in the U.S. are not even on the same scale as in China.
China is butthurt and they have no ammunition to retaliate with.
[QUOTE=bravehat;29081826]Excuse me, but what bargaining chip do you have to say to CHina "quit pulling this shit"
They're armed forces pretty much match the US except I'm sure their standing army is much larger. Then there is the fact that the US economy is pretty much owned and driven by China and their cheap as chips shit they produce.[/QUOTE]
Not really a negotiation, just asking them to stop shitting all over human rights. Same as you would expect from any country.
Also no, in a full-scale war, the US would be able to overpower them. I don't really wanna get into all kinds of hypothetical scenarios but but China does not hold any military power over the US. There are other things they can do, but threatening war will not end well for them.
[QUOTE=zombini;29081548]Fucking China is right, we need to stop being so selfless and actually fix OUR fucking problems.
EDIT: It's like this; if someone asks you for some money, you'd usually give them some, provided that you are friends with them. But you also needed that money for gas, so you can't use your car, and can't get to work, so they fire you for being constantly late, and you pretty much go on down from there. See what i mean? This is what America does, we give out money and aid to countries that pretty much downright hate us, and then we start sticking our noses into their business and ruining relations further. If America keeps this up for longer, the National Debt will exceed the GDP and cause serious problems if it stays as such for longer than a year.[/QUOTE]
It's not exactly like our human rights efforts are the cause of our recession. Iraq and Afghanistan hardly hold up to our previous record of interfering in other nations.
[QUOTE=darkedone02;29081585]No can do China, Everyone should deserve freedom. why don't you hand those shackles to someone else then the US. This is our country, and this is our rules. Don't oppress your power over our nation.[/QUOTE]
Err, do you not see the irony in this?
[QUOTE=Lick;29082133]It's not exactly like our human rights efforts are the cause of our recession. Iraq and Afghanistan hardly hold up to our previous record of interfering in other nations.[/QUOTE]
They're up there.
Yeah you actually can't equate the US on human rights to China. Americans don't know how lucky they have it - an independent judicial system that will protect their rights, e.g. free speech, no matter how much everyone hates it. Alternatively, in China, they arrest dissidents at will. What do you think would happen to, say, Julian Assange if he was in China? They'd take him, torture him and lock him away for "endangering state security", and wouldn't even care.
Don't tell me that the US is no better on human rights than China. Total bollocks.
E: Here's one - China also opposed the Libyan intervention, as "meddling in other nations' affairs". Does anyone here really think that's a valid reason?
Every country's government sucks. As long as there is at least 2 people on this earth, there is going to be disagreements.
[QUOTE=zombini;29081548]Fucking China is right, we need to stop being so selfless and actually fix OUR fucking problems.
EDIT: It's like this; if someone asks you for some money, you'd usually give them some, provided that you are friends with them. But you also needed that money for gas, so you can't use your car, and can't get to work, so they fire you for being constantly late, and you pretty much go on down from there. See what i mean? This is what America does, we give out money and aid to countries that pretty much downright hate us, and then we start sticking our noses into their business and ruining relations further. If America keeps this up for longer, the National Debt will exceed the GDP and cause serious problems if it stays as such for longer than a year.[/QUOTE]
Like a human centipede except everyone's shitting money into everyone's mouth
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29081568]Shut down Guantanamo and then talk
Both countries have issues and that's basically what China is saying[/QUOTE]
Guantanamo is bad
but innocent people have been killed in the hundreds over tibet, thousands injured, I think those don't compare.
SPESSMEHREN tells China: Fuck off.
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and free tibet while youre at it.
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;29082460]Guantanamo is bad
but innocent people have been killed in the hundreds over tibet, thousands injured, I think those don't compare.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention their alleged attempts at exterminating Tibetan culture.
I personally disagree with the United States meddling in others business.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29082499]Not to mention their alleged attempts at exterminating Tibetan culture.[/QUOTE]
And the fact that a single CPC was responsible for Tibet while an entrenched two-party system, both with hands in the military-industrial complex, (or is it the other way around?) is ultimately responsible for what happens to Gitmo.
[QUOTE=AxerFex;29082518]I personally disagree with the United States meddling in others business.[/QUOTE]
It's a natural part of being a Hegemon, every great power in history did it, or actively attempted to do so.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29082544]It's a natural part of being a Hegemon, every great power in history did it, or actively attempted to do so.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention they miserably failed and usually imploded because of it
Take that America. Damn fucking right :v:
I know China is not the one to say it, but this is the truth.
Edit:
America still hasn't paid back for the CIA orchestrated cocaine trade, gun trade and deliberate bombing of everything that moves (Including civilians, their houses and everything else) in Laos near the vietnam border in the 60s.
CIA and the hmong mercenary army under their command extorted civilians (Work or no food) to make them work on cocaine farms, the cocaine was transported by the "CIA airlines", Air America.
Also when an attack resulted in death of the majority of the hmong mercenary personnel they resorted to use child soldiers.
The gov never even said "sorry". In the end they destroyed a small civilisation of the hmongs. Better later than never though. It just looks like it's gonna be the never.
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