• Religion No Longer Offers Break on Airport Screening, TSA Says
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[quote]WASHINGTON -- The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won't get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs. TSA chief John Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday that passengers who refuse to go through a full-body scanner machine and reject a pat-down won't be allowed to board, even if they turned down the in-depth screening for religious reasons. "That person is not going to get on an airplane," Pistole said in response to a question from Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., on whether the TSA would provide exemptions for passengers whose religious beliefs do not allow them to go through a physically revealing body scan or be touched by screeners. Civil rights groups contend the more intensive screening violates civil liberties including freedom of religion, the right to privacy and the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches. The issue is getting new attention after a man posted an item online saying he was thrown out of the San Diego airport for rejecting a full-body scan and pat-down groin check and instead insisting on passing through a metal detector. Pistole acknowledged the incident was drawing wide attention but told the committee an officer involved was "very cool, calm, professional" in dealing with the passenger. The Electronic Privacy Information Center is among several civil liberties groups suing the TSA in federal court to stop use of the full-body scanners. Their lawsuit says the machines are overly intrusive and violate civil rights, and that it is questionable whether they can detect powdered explosives such as those used by a passenger in last year's attempted Christmas airliner bombing. They also question whether the machines pose a health risk. "There's a very strong sense right now that the public attitude on the airport body scanner program has swung dramatically," said Marc Rotenberg, director of EPIC. There is growing opposition from civil rights groups, religious organizations, libertarians, airline passengers and pilots, he said. EPIC is urging air travelers to take part in a national opt-out day the day before Thanksgiving, refusing to go through the full-body detectors and insisting that any pat-down they receive as a result take place in full view of other passengers. Several senators asked Pistole to address public criticism of the body-imaging machines and more intrusive pat-downs the agency is using. Pistole said the tougher screening is necessary, and that the FDA has found the imaging machines to be safe. Going through the whole-body scanning machine is similar to getting about three minutes of the radiation that passengers receive at 30,000 feet on a typical flight, he said. Pistole said his agency was working to address pilot and flight attendant concerns about the screening. [/quote] [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/religion-offers-break-airport-screening-tsa-says/[/url]
About time
what religion bans screenings?
[QUOTE=BagMinge104;26110135]what religion bans screenings?[/QUOTE] Stupid ones.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;26110163]Stupid ones.[/QUOTE] Such as?
[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26110180]Such as?[/QUOTE] all of them
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;26110163]Stupid ones.[/QUOTE] You gotta be more specific there :v:
[quote]Electronic Privacy Information Center[/quote] the acronym makes me feel like the Center is out of some cheesy 80's action movie
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26110204]You gotta be more specific there :v:[/QUOTE] He was
I didn't know people could get out of it at all. [editline]16th November 2010[/editline] I thought the only way to avoid screenings was to simply not fly.
This is obviously done to allow religious profiling on Muslims. [sp]Disclaimer: I'm Muslim so I'm allowed to make uneducated statements regarding anything related to Islam.[/sp]
I find it funny that it was mainly religious extremists we were worried about, but we put breaks on screening for the religious Only in the USA
What are people who are transgendered and not "out" yet supposed to do, if they don't want complete strangers or people they know with them to know what genitals they have?
political extremists 9/11 had nothing to do with religion
Why did they even consider allow people to plea religion against full body scans in the first place?
[QUOTE=FHamster;26110951]Why did they even consider allow people to plea religion against full body scans in the first place?[/QUOTE] Because religion can be above the law at times.
[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26110973]Because religion can be above the law at times.[/QUOTE] That one statement summarizes why I hate organized religion.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;26111013]That one statement summarizes why I hate organized religion.[/QUOTE] You hate organized religion as a whole because some people can get away with things? Organized religion has brought people together and provides social services (including schooling and care for the ill and old).
"There's a very strong sense right now that the public attitude on the airport body scanner program has swung dramatically," said Marc Rotenberg, director of EPIC. There is growing opposition from civil rights groups, religious organizations, libertarians, airline passengers and pilots, he said." Well i wondor why.... I will never use thease at all they have been proven to be very very infective and they use xrays and i dont want to be exposed to xrays unless i have too
[QUOTE=Dude902;26110903]This is obviously done to allow religious profiling on Muslims. [sp]Disclaimer: I'm Muslim so I'm allowed to make uneducated statements regarding anything related to Islam.[/sp][/QUOTE] Do you enjoy a pork chop sandwich?
[QUOTE=Dude902;26110903]This is obviously done to allow religious profiling on Muslims. [sp]Disclaimer: I'm Muslim so I'm allowed to make uneducated statements regarding anything related to Islam.[/sp][/QUOTE] well in that case why would you refuse to be screened? clearly if you have nothing to hide you won't mind being screened i can't think of one religion where screening would be against that person's faith unless the person is an utter idiot and thought he/she was being screened because of his/her religious beliefs. [editline]17th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26110973]Because religion can be above the law at times.[/QUOTE] religion should be recreation, imo it should never be seen as something that defines how our society is run or should never be influence upon decisions made for the country ( any country )
[QUOTE=Source;26111919] religion should be recreation, imo it should never be seen as something that defines how our society is run or should never be influence upon decisions made for the country ( any country )[/QUOTE] Recreation? Since when does religion amuse people? Religion shouldn't influence how a country is run, you are correct, and that's the separation of church (well, church in the case of the USA) and state. Religion should be able to influence society, why the heck shouldn't it?
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26111622]Do you enjoy a pork chop sandwich?[/QUOTE] :frog:
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26111622]Do you enjoy a pork chop sandwich?[/QUOTE] Good job rating yourself. Also, not really something funny to joke about. Abrahamic religions believe God made every animal to have a purpose, and Mohamed also encouraged kindness to animals.
[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;26112124]Good job rating yourself. Also, not really something funny to joke about. Abrahamic religions believe God made every animal to have a purpose, and Mohamed also encouraged kindness to animals.[/QUOTE] he's a blatant islamaphobe I wouldn't even bother with him
[QUOTE=Source;26111919] religion should be recreation, imo it should never be seen as something that defines how our society is run or should never be influence upon decisions made for the country ( any country )[/QUOTE] Good luck finding one
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26111622]Do you enjoy a pork chop sandwich?[/QUOTE] Don't be an ass.
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;26110939]political extremists 9/11 had nothing to do with religion[/QUOTE] then what was it about
[QUOTE=Dude902;26110903]This is obviously done to allow religious profiling on Muslims. [sp]Disclaimer: I'm Muslim so I'm allowed to make uneducated statements regarding anything related to Islam.[/sp][/QUOTE] Unfortunately, Muslims are the ones most likely to commit a terrorist act as of now.
[QUOTE=Explosions;26112427]Unfortunately, Muslims are the ones most likely to commit a terrorist act as of now.[/QUOTE] But it has nothing to do with their faith. Political, not religious actions.
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