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The RIAA has wasted no time in filing a lawsuit against recently launched music application Aurous. Just days after its alpha launch, Florida based developer Andrew Sampson and his company are being targeted by the major music labels. The RIAA accuses the site's owners of copyright infringement and are demanding millions in damages.
Today the RIAA filed a lawsuit at a Florida district court on behalf of several major labels including UMG and Sony Music. In the complaint they accuse Aurous and its developer of several counts of copyright infringement.
“This service is a flagrant example of a business model powered by copyright theft on a massive scale,” the RIAA says.
“Like Grokster, Limewire or Grooveshark, it is neither licensed nor legal. We will not allow such a service to willfully trample the rights of music creators.”
The complaint describes Aurous as an application that is mostly intended to pirate music. Instead of the planned BitTorrent integration, it uses the Russian pirate site Pleer as its main source.
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[URL]https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-sues-popcorn-time-for-music-151013/[/URL]
Fuck you, RIAA. Dipshits.
That didn't take long.
I'd like to add the response from the service owner
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However, in comments posted to Twitter tonight, Sampson seems unfazed.
“Don’t worry, we’re not going anywhere, empty lawsuits aren’t going to stop the innovation of the next best media player,” he said.
“Hey @RIAA @UMG and everyone else, we challenge every CEO to an arm wrestling competition, we win you drop your empty suit.”
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The apps been out for 4 days and has already caused millions in damages? Fuck off RIAA
[quote]Instead of the planned BitTorrent integration, it uses the Russian pirate site Pleer as its main source.[/quote]
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;48900229]Fuck you, RIAA. Dipshits.[/QUOTE]
If it's true and they're offering music that isn't actually licensed, or is being used in a context where its licensing isn't valid, then it's no surprise they're getting hit with a lawsuit. But I guess the RIAA will always be the bad guy because people want free stuff, legally or not.
[QUOTE=catbarf;48900264]If it's true and they're offering music that isn't actually licensed, or is being used in a context where its licensing isn't valid, then it's no surprise they're getting hit with a lawsuit. But I guess the RIAA will always be the bad guy because people want free stuff, legally or not.[/QUOTE]
They're getting shit on because they are greedy moneysharks and whine they don't make (enough) money, while paying the actual artists fuck all.
[QUOTE]“This service is a flagrant example of a business model powered by copyright theft on a massive scale,” the RIAA says.[/QUOTE]
Except the real thieves here are you. Millions in damage my ass.
That guy has balls if that's actually his real name and company. He's going to get wrecked by lawsuits.
[QUOTE=leontodd;48900303]That guy has balls if that's actually his real name and company. He's going to get wrecked by lawsuits.[/QUOTE]
Yup, friend of mine knows him quite well
Oh shit, so he's standing up? I wish him the best of luck.
[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;48900229]Fuck you, RIAA. Dipshits.[/QUOTE]
for what? intellectual property theft is still theft
[QUOTE=catbarf;48900264]If it's true and they're offering music that isn't actually licensed, or is being used in a context where its licensing isn't valid, then it's no surprise they're getting hit with a lawsuit. But I guess the RIAA will always be the bad guy because people want free stuff, legally or not.[/QUOTE]
except it's not??
they avoid legal persecution because their streaming of torrent files is legal. the RIAA is slamming them with a massive lawsuit for the sole purpose of putting the creator into debt via legal fees. they're a bunch of self-righteous cunts who manipulate the legal system to get 'revenge' on file sharers.
I've been using Aurous for only a few hours and I'm already in love with it. It's exactly what I wanted from a music service my entire life. I wish them the best of luck
I can't believe this is happening, these poor people don't deserve any of these bullshit damage claims.
piracy is theft and RIAA has every right to take action if this case proves valid. Just learn to deal with the fact that you're technically committing theft when you pirate, like we all do.
No point in lying to yourself and getting angry over an organisation doing what they're supposed to do
[QUOTE=_jesterk;48900369]they avoid legal persecution because their streaming of torrent files is legal. [/QUOTE]
Multiple courts in multiple countries have ruled that hosting torrent files is facilitating piracy and is consequently illegal, hence all the problems TPB has been having, hence why Google filters search results. It's only legal in the minds of people looking for any justification, no matter how tenuous, for these websites and services to continue operation.
[QUOTE=_jesterk;48900369]they're a bunch of self-righteous cunts who manipulate the legal system to get 'revenge' on file sharers.[/QUOTE]
I say they're using the legal system to prosecute people who illegally steal their stuff, so calling that 'self-righteous' especially in this context just sounds like pirates whining about the big bad RIAA punishing them for breaking the law.
Like not even commenting on the moral arguments for/against piracy, if you want to make a streaming service you have to actually license or own the content you're offering. If Aurous didn't do that then they've got no legitimate base for their business.
I don't like the RIAA either, but Aurous has no legal standing. They're going to lose.
[QUOTE=Propane Addict;48900262]The apps been out for 4 days and has already caused millions in damages? Fuck off RIAA[/QUOTE]
This is the part that bothers me most.
They're arguing that number to settle with something lower
I thought there were people trying to stop internet bullying, why is this a thing then?
Bullying is acting against the facilitation of music piracy? What?
Aurous is advertising itself as some kind of business on illegal standings whilst publicly advertising itself.
Private trackers continue to exist because they stay out of the way, don't advertise as a service and keep numbers low. Everything Aurous isn't doing
Why did they think this was a good idea to publicly host such service in the US...
[QUOTE=.Lain;48900549]Bullying is acting against the facilitation of music piracy? What?
Aurous is advertising itself as some kind of business on illegal standings whilst publicly advertising itself.
Private trackers continue to exist because they stay out of the way, don't advertise as a service and keep numbers low. Everything Aurous isn't doing[/QUOTE]
TPB is still up and isn't "out of the way". Because it's not actually illegal. Learn 2 law.
[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;48900568]Why did they think this was a good idea to publicly host such service in the US...[/QUOTE]
I don't get why these people still host these service in the US as opposed to hosting them in a country which has a sane copyright system.
RIAA might be making this a bigger deal then it is for the sake of money. It doesn't look like you can download music with the program. Only stream. I compare that to streaming music from youtube with adblock on.
I didnt know about this program before this. Now I do, thanks RIAA?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48900615]TPB is still up and isn't "out of the way". Because it's not actually illegal. Learn 2 law.[/QUOTE]
TPB is anything but a private tracker??
[editline]14th October 2015[/editline]
learn 2 read
[QUOTE=kaukassus;48900699]I don't get why these people still host these service in the US as opposed to hosting them in a country which has a sane copyright system.[/QUOTE]
Servers in US are dirt cheap compared to everywhere else.
[QUOTE=.Lain;48900999]TPB is anything but a private tracker??
[editline]14th October 2015[/editline]
learn 2 read[/QUOTE]
What's the difference? They do the same thing.
Aurous is not private same way TPB isn't, so it should be fine by that logic too.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48901011]Servers in US are dirt cheap compared to everywhere else.
What's the difference? They do the same thing.[/QUOTE]
i didn't say otherwise, im saying that aurous made a huge dumb mistake by going so fuckin public and brought up how private trackers manage to exist for years upon years without C&Ds or lawsuits
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48900615]TPB is still up and isn't "out of the way". Because it's not actually illegal. Learn 2 law.[/QUOTE]
Actually according to the case [URL=https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F2/443/443.F2d.1159.606.35260_1.html]Gershwin Publishing Corporation v. Columbia Artists Management Inc.[/URL], knowingly linking to copyrighted material, even if you are not the one hosting it, for the purpose of illegal distribution can make one held liable as a [URL=https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/contributory_infringement]contributory infringer.[/URL] So it puts them in the same "law boat" as those who sell pirated DVDs on the street corner. So TPB and Aurous are both very much breaking the law, while Google and its infinite team of lawyers can argue that they are hosting the links in order to keep a record of the internet and in no way endorsing using said links to download copyrighted material.
[editline]14th October 2015[/editline]
O also I know that case was decided in 1971, way before the internet was a thing, but the way the US legal system works is by past reference, so the plaintiffs generally form their arguments around past cases of similar ideas, and this case has all the aspects in it that would shut down anyone being sued by a somewhat competent lawyer or team of lawyers.
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