Germany - 12 year old Euskirchen boy allegedly nearly beaten to death by classmates
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[QUOTE]A 12-year-old sustained life-threatening injuries after allegedly suffering a brutal attack at the hands of three classmates in Euskirchen, west of Bonn. The suspects may be too young to face any legal consequences.
Police in the western town of Euskirchen said on Saturday that they had found three suspects in the case of a 12-year-old boy who was nearly beaten to death. The trio in question were classmates of the victim, authorities said.
On Thursday, a schoolteacher in Euskirchen called the emergency services after the pupil complained of being in severe pain and appeared dazed. After the boy was brought to a local clinic in an ambulance, he had to be airlifted to a larger hospital in nearby Cologne.
German media reported that a local prosecutor had declined to say just how badly the boy was hurt, but that as of Friday his condition was still life-threatening. The attorney also said he could not comment on a possible motive for the attack.
Suspects too young to be tried[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://www.dw.com/en/euskirchen-boy-allegedly-nearly-beaten-to-death-by-classmates/a-35881988[/url]
[quote]The suspects may be too young to face any legal consequences[/quote]
Bullshit, they should be fucking charged.
They did this intentionally.
This forum needs a "Happy time news" section to counteract these awful articles. :(
[QUOTE=false prophet;51100877]This forum needs a "Happy time news" section to counteract these awful articles. :([/QUOTE]
no need to separate news categories
if you don't like it, feel free to post your own articles
[QUOTE=false prophet;51100877]This forum needs a "Happy time news" section to counteract these awful articles. :([/QUOTE]
There is a [url=https://pt.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/]subreddit[/url] for this if you want to take a break from the typical news.
It's pretty dreadful but probably not as bad as them getting tried as an adult & getting given a 40 year sentence or some shit if this occured in the USA.
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;51101121]Bullies getting punished? You sure you're thinking of the right USA?[/QUOTE]
"Kids will be kids haha"
[QUOTE=GalacticPunt;51101046]It's pretty dreadful but probably not as bad as them getting tried as an adult & getting given a 40 year sentence or some shit if this occured in the USA.[/QUOTE]
We do have juvenile court you know, people under 18 aren't charged as adults nearly as often as people act like they do unless they have a record.
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;51101121]Bullies getting punished? You sure you're thinking of the right USA?[/QUOTE]
To be fair they would get punished if they nearly beat a kid to death here. But it really would have to be pretty extreme for them to take action without punishing both bully and victim, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Anderan;51101213]We do have juvenile court you know[/QUOTE]
That's only for blacks, though.
[QUOTE=abcpea;51101254]That's only for blacks, though.[/QUOTE]
The number of blacks tried as adults is nearly identical to the number of whites tried as adults. Unfortunately it seams nobody has bothered to gather or at least release data on the number of juvenile cases sent to criminal court since the mid 90s but at least then the number of juvenile cases sent to criminal court was literally only about 1.4% with nearly identical number of blacks and whites. Also roughly 90% of the kids being sent to criminal court over juvenile court were 16 and over.
I know the US justice system is shit but I can't find any evidence that the courts are throwing kids into criminal court enmass and unless I'm searching for it wrong there isn't any statistics to indicate they are either.
[url]http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/JPSCC.PDF[/url]
Fuck off, these people need to be punished for being criminals
They ARE old enough to know better and surely to pay for their deed
They are twelve years old. Their brains are not fully developed yet. Surely this is a product of a bad environment, mistakes made, puberty aggression and group pressure. Not the kids being inherently evil and wishing death upon a fellow schoolmate. It is needed to look at their parents aswell as the society they live in. There is no proper excuse for this terrible act but it could serve as a potential explanation.
It is a tragic thing to happen, but revenge fosters no good things.
[QUOTE=Mango;51103123]They are twelve years old. Their brains are not fully developed yet. Surely this is a product of a bad environment, mistakes made, puberty aggression and group pressure. Not the kids being inherently evil and wishing death upon a fellow schoolmate. It is needed to look at their parents aswell as the society they live in. There is no proper excuse for this terrible act but it could serve as a potential explanation.
It is a tragic thing to happen, but revenge fosters no good things.[/QUOTE]
No punishment either will lead to even worse results.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51103140]No punishment either will lead to even worse results.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully almost killing someone is punishment enough. I see where you are coming from, but is jailtime the best way of combating their (and ours) problem?
[QUOTE=Mango;51103123]They are twelve years old. Their brains are not fully developed yet. Surely this is a product of a bad environment, mistakes made, puberty aggression and group pressure. Not the kids being inherently evil and wishing death upon a fellow schoolmate. It is needed to look at their parents aswell as the society they live in. There is no proper excuse for this terrible act but it could serve as a potential explanation.
It is a tragic thing to happen, but revenge fosters no good things.[/QUOTE]
this sort of behavior hurts more than helps
while i don't think giving them the harshest punishment possible will help anyone, letting them get off with the excuse of "they're 12" can cause them to do more of this stuff, since it (usually) makes them think they have justification for they're actions and actually makes them feel [I]less[/I] bad about their actions, and they are at risk of growing this mentality that, since they're young, these acts of carelessness are just within their nature.
i'm not really sure on whether or not i think they should be sent to juvy, though. it depends how intentional the damage done was.
[QUOTE=Mango;51103123]They are twelve years old. Their brains are not fully developed yet. Surely this is a product of a bad environment, mistakes made, puberty aggression and group pressure. Not the kids being inherently evil and wishing death upon a fellow schoolmate. It is needed to look at their parents aswell as the society they live in. There is no proper excuse for this terrible act but it could serve as a potential explanation.
It is a tragic thing to happen, but revenge fosters no good things.[/QUOTE]
When I was 12 years old I knew that beating people to near death was a bad thing to do. Being 12 doesn't mean you are functionally retarded, and puberty along with environment is no excuse. You are old enough at this point to know right from wrong.
[QUOTE=Mango;51103123]They are twelve years old. Their brains are not fully developed yet. Surely this is a product of a bad environment, mistakes made, puberty aggression and group pressure. Not the kids being inherently evil and wishing death upon a fellow schoolmate. It is needed to look at their parents aswell as the society they live in. There is no proper excuse for this terrible act but it could serve as a potential explanation.
It is a tragic thing to happen, but revenge fosters no good things.[/QUOTE]
The kid shows no sign of regret, nothing. He knew exactly what he's doing, you don't just kick someone's head when he's on the ground because "LOL IM 12 WHAT AM I DOING"
Of course there must be some sort of consequence, I'm not denying that. I'm simply challenging the "put them in jail/teach 'em a lesson" statements. Could we not spend our money better? Would jail lead these children to a better state of mind? In the long term, is jail the solution to these kinds of problems?
What if these children are victims of abuse themselves? Beaten up by their family. It may not be so, but we don't know.
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;51103495]The kid shows no sign of regret, nothing. He knew exactly what he's doing, you don't just kick someone's head when he's on the ground because "LOL IM 12 WHAT AM I DOING"[/QUOTE]
Is there a video? I must have missed that.
[QUOTE=Mango;51103542]Of course there must be some sort of consequence, I'm not denying that. I'm simply challenging the "put them in jail/teach 'em a lesson" statements. Could we not spend our money better? Would jail lead these children to a better state of mind? In the long term, is jail the solution to these kinds of problems?
What if these children are victims of abuse themselves? Beaten up by their family. It may not be so, but we don't know.
Is there a video? I must have missed that.[/QUOTE]
No video but I just searched for it and found this:
[url]http://www.express.de/bonn/euskirchen-junge--12--von-mitschuelern-fast-totgepruegelt---mordkommission-ermittelt--24794324[/url]
[QUOTE]Dem Schüler war offenbar mit massiver Gewalt gegen den Kopf getreten worden![/QUOTE]
Which basically says what I wrote in my post.
The Express is pretty sensationalist though, so don't trust it 100%
[QUOTE=Firewarrior;51103495]The kid shows no sign of regret, nothing. He knew exactly what he's doing, you don't just kick someone's head when he's on the ground because "LOL IM 12 WHAT AM I DOING"[/QUOTE]
Future career criminal I see (kicked the victim in the head multiple times when laying down, what utter scum). Better start being really harsh now and that might be avoided. Hopefully.
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