Donald Trump Says the Hate Speech from His Supporters ‘Saddens’ Him
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[quote]Trump on whether he regrets anything from his controversial campaign: “I can’t regret. … I wish it were softer, I wish it were nicer, I wish maybe even it was more on policy, or whatever you want to say. But I will say that it really is something that I’m very proud of, I mean it was a tremendous campaign.” Trump on using similar campaign rhetoric during his presidency: “Well, sometimes you need a certain rhetoric to get people motivated. I don’t want to be just a little nice monotone character and in many cases I will be.” Trump on his meeting with President Barack Obama and if it was “awkward”: “We never discussed what was said about each other. I said terrible things about him, he said terrible things about me. … I’ll be honest, from my standpoint zero, zero . And that’s strange. I’m actually surprised to tell you that.” Melania on her relationship with her husband: “I think he hears me. But he will do what he wants to do on the end. He’s an adult. He knows the consequences. And I give him my opinion. And he could do whatever he likes with it.” Melania on the potential awkwardness of her one-on-one meeting with First Lady Michelle Obama, particularly after her speech at the Republican National Convention almost directly mirrored the first lady’s 2008 Democratic Convention address: “No. I didn’t feel it … She was a gracious host. We had a great time and we raising children in the White House. She was very warm and very nice.” On reports of increased incidents of hate speech and racially charged incidents from his alleged supporters: “I am so saddened to hear that and I say stop it, if it helps. I’ll say it right to the camera — stop it.”[/quote]
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/good-people-trump-says-still-000224898.html[/url]
Well I wonder who inspired them to talk like that!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51367657]Well I wonder who inspired them to talk like that![/QUOTE]
But could the inspirer inspire them to stop it?
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51367660]But could the inspirer inspire them to stop it?[/QUOTE]
The worms are out of the can, I sincerely doubt it.
This election is just the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51367667]The worms are out of the can, I sincerely doubt it.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, I don't think Trump opened the can.
Rather, he put a big juicy bait on the table to attract every worm in the area. And the worms procreated like crazy and are out of control.
It's [I]almost[/I] as if launching a campaign with a basis of hatred and civil rights abuse brings out the assholes in the world!
Regardless of how Trump handles his presidency, nobody can deny at this point that he came to power while promising to systematically hurt millions of people. Whether this was a legitimate desire or just a political fast one to increase his voter count, it's pretty fucking deplorable all the same.
Spinning around and pretending like he's "saddened" by all this now that he's secured the victory absolutely reeks of PR. And even if it is genuine, how the hell are we suppose to trust anything Trump says?
At this point, I don't think [I]anybody[/I] has any clear idea of what he's going to do in the next 4 years.
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51367660]But could the inspirer inspire them to stop it?[/QUOTE]
Steve Bannon is in charge of the WH's public outreach. I sincerely doubt it
[quote]I can’t regret. … I wish it were softer, I wish it were nicer, I wish maybe even it was more on policy, or whatever you want to say.[/quote]
The fuck did Obama do to you?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51367707]The fuck did Obama do to you?[/QUOTE]
Maybe Biden threatened him.
This election is so weird but also terrifying.
[QUOTE=Pascall;51367716]Maybe Biden threatened him.[/QUOTE]
I could honestly see Biden waterboarding Trump in the presidential toilet for 10 minutes before taking him in to see the president.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51367707]The fuck did Obama do to you?[/QUOTE]
what if it was his first time ever really talking to a black man?
[QUOTE=Trump] he (Obama) said terrible things about me[/QUOTE]
Oh give me a break. he called you out since you told everyone he wasnt american born, the worst president in history, etc.
jeez, the ego of this guy is so fragile
Bit late to the punch, there, Donny boy.
[QUOTE=da space core;51367764]Oh give me a break. he called you out since you told everyone he wasnt american born, the worst president in history, etc.
jeez, the ego of this guy is so fragile[/QUOTE]
You know he admitted that shit was flung both ways. The fact that you conveniently ignore this speaks volumes about your attention span.
It could be, and I thought this before the election, better to have a Trump presidency, to defuse all the tension and hysteria among the white-right crazies. Clinton may have made a better president, but there could have been huge repercussions.
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I mean you look at the protesting going on now, imagine what it would be like if things went the other way.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51367707]The fuck did Obama do to you?[/QUOTE]
Obama did that thing the avatar did to the firelord where he cleansed his evil soul with pure good
[QUOTE=Pascall;51367716]Maybe Biden threatened him.[/QUOTE]
I like to think Biden is going to hide in the presidential suite when Obama leaves and just wait to spring out and scare the fuck out of Trump
maybe he did it already though
[QUOTE=space1;51367791]You know he admitted that shit was flung both ways. The fact that you conveniently ignore this speaks volumes about your attention span.[/QUOTE]
What shit has Obama flung?
He's only ever talked down about him. He never insulted him. Merely described him
[QUOTE=space1;51367791]You know he admitted that shit was flung both ways. The fact that you conveniently ignore this speaks volumes about your attention span.[/QUOTE]
The fact you conveniently ignore Trump's entire campaign and his constant rhetoric inciting this exact same hate speech from his supporters, not to mention his previous crusade against Obama during the birther movement nonsense, speaks volumes about your attention span, intelligence, and dull competency as a human being.
Obama was, is, and always will be better than Trump. It's not a hard standard to beat, and that's the understatement of the decade, but the little feud they had going between each other was hardly Obama's fault.
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OT: If it saddens you so much, why did you propagate it in the first place. This...
[quote]“Well, sometimes you need a certain rhetoric to get people motivated. I don’t want to be just a little nice monotone character and in many cases I will be.”[/quote]
...is not a valid excuse. You created a monster, and now you have to accept responsibility for creating it. You are obligated to get it under control. I'm sorry to say though that I think you allowed it to get too big and too far out of hand, and you won't be able to wrangle it.
I may not be a Trump supporter but I can realize it's not entirely his fault.
America has always been full of racists and bigots. The entire world is full of them. They've always been there, and they've always been shitty people, and they've always done things like call minorities slurs.
Donald Trump's campaign strategy of putting a focus on illegal immigrants made the media key in on these people more closely than they have before, and it just so happens these people support Trump because they misunderstand/misconstrue "Deport illegals, control immigration better" as "White power, down with non-whites" because they're ignorant.
While it is true Trump's victory emblazoned them, I think his defeat would have been worse. I've never seen so much hatred between two political affiliations before. Between Trump supporters and Hillary supporters. You see how Hillary supporters are protesting and rioting now, after her loss. Imagine if Trump lost, what all those people who just so happened to support him would have done.
At any rate it's not HIS fault that his message, misunderstood as it was, resonated with that crowd.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;51367990]I may not be a Trump supporter but I can realize it's not entirely his fault.
America has always been full of racists and bigots. The entire world is full of them. They've always been there, and they've always been shitty people, and they've always done things like call minorities slurs.
Donald Trump's campaign strategy of putting a focus on illegal immigrants made the media key in on these people more closely than they have before, and it just so happens these people support Trump because they misunderstand/misconstrue "Deport illegals, control immigration better" as "White power, down with non-whites" because they're ignorant.
While it is true Trump's victory emblazoned them, I think his defeat would have been worse. I've never seen so much hatred between two political affiliations before. Between Trump supporters and Hillary supporters. You see how Hillary supporters are protesting and rioting now, after her loss. Imagine if Trump lost, what all those people who just so happened to support him would have done.
At any rate it's not HIS fault that his message, misunderstood as it was, resonated with that crowd.[/QUOTE]
I can get that, but at the same time, I don't think it's even possible to misconstrue "I'm going to bring back torture, even if it doesn't work" and "we're going to go after their families". His message found the crazies, but what he was actually saying did not help.
[QUOTE=Pitchfork;51368017]I can get that, but at the same time, I don't think it's even possible to misconstrue "I'm going to bring back torture, even if it doesn't work" and "we're going to go after their families". His message found the crazies, but what he was actually saying did not help.[/QUOTE]
Can you cite source for him saying the one about torture? That seems uncharacteristic even for him.
As far as "We'll go after their families" I understood that to mean he would go after the children of illegals who are, IIRC, still technically illegal, but get lots of government assistance where most American citizens don't, and either deport them or get them naturalized and cut off support/make them pay taxes. I'm assuming most sane people understood that to be the case. The insane people would misconstrue it as "git em boys"
People were afraid Trump has no experience with politics, that he won't be able to do the job properly.
But it seems to me like he's a natural talent. He's twisting like a snake, changing his rhetoric like his socks, telling people exactly the type of bullshit they want to hear at any given moment. An incredible show of political mastery.
[QUOTE=Drury;51368091]People were afraid Trump has no experience with politics, that he won't be able to do the job properly.
But it seems to me like he's a natural talent. He's twisting like a snake, changing his rhetoric like his socks, telling people exactly the type of bullshit they want to hear at any given moment. An incredible show of political mastery.[/QUOTE]When you spend a good chunk of your life doing business in his field, I imagine it's just muscle memory at this point.
[QUOTE=Drury;51368091]People were afraid Trump has no experience with politics, that he won't be able to do the job properly.
But it seems to me like he's a natural talent. He's twisting like a snake, changing his rhetoric like his socks, telling people exactly the type of bullshit they want to hear at any given moment. An incredible show of political mastery.[/QUOTE]
More like an incredible show of how much horseshit can one man spew out on his own. Then again, that's basically what politics 101 is but I thought people wanted him because "he's not your standard politician" and because "he's saying it like it is".
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;51368081]Can you cite source for him saying the one about torture? That seems uncharacteristic even for him.
As far as "We'll go after their families" I understood that to mean he would go after the children of illegals who are, IIRC, still technically illegal, but get lots of government assistance where most American citizens don't, and either deport them or get them naturalized and cut off support/make them pay taxes. I'm assuming most sane people understood that to be the case. The insane people would misconstrue it as "git em boys"[/QUOTE]
He didn't say that it didn't work, but he did say he would bring it back and something akin to "waterboarding isn't harsh enough".
About the "going after the families" that was about terrorists, not illegal immigrants. And it wasn't about taxes. Also, any person born in the US is a citizen, whether their parent came there illegally or not - of course some kids are also illegals, but most are US citizens.
This is all off the top of my head, and hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
"I'll pay your legal fees I promise you if you smack people like that"
"Back in the day talking like that would get you beat up"
"OUOUOUOUO I DONT KNOW WHAT I SAID" (making fun of a disabled reporter)
"Mexico is sending rapists and murderers"
“ALL OF THE WOMEN ON THE APPRENTICE FLIRTED WITH ME – CONSCIOUSLY OR UNCONSCIOUSLY. THAT’S TO BE EXPECTED.”
"All this hostility saddens me"
[I]One of these things doesn't belong - which one, which one?[/I]
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;51368108]More like an incredible show of how much horseshit can one man spew out on his own. Then again, that's basically what politics 101 is but I thought people wanted him because "he's not your standard politician" and because "he's saying it like it is".[/QUOTE]
Human beings on average behave like extremely fickle animals. They have bad memories, poor attention spans, and too much sentimentality/are driven by emotion more than logic. Naturally then when we're talking about politics, they're easily duped and manipulated. It happens again and again, as history shows us. Whether we're talking Hitlers, Mussolinis, Lenins, Stalins, Reagans, Bushes, Thatchers, etc., this is how the cycle works. Trump is yet another part of that cycle.
What I love is how it's working like a charm here. He told the radical right-wingers and centrists (basically anybody who was pissed off at the left) what they wanted to hear back when he was campaigning, now he's pandering to the left-wingers and remaining centrists since he's apparently been awarded the election by the electoral college system. And they're eating it up. "Oh he was just pretending to be retarded/hateful the whole time. There's a chance he'll be reasonable and maybe a not so bad president after all." "He hasn't done anything yet, stop being so critical of him." "Ignore his past behavior and everything he said before, it didn't mean anything." Etc. They've completely forgotten how much of a dishonest ass he is; that, or they always sympathized with him to some degree or another, and now they're just using his current rhetoric to give in to that sympathy.
This whole election, as others have pointed out, is one for the history books. It's going to be studied and analyzed by social and political scientists, psychologists, economists, etc. for decades to come.
[QUOTE=Govna;51368139]This whole election, as others have pointed out, is one for the history books. It's going to be studied and analyzed by social and political scientists, psychologists, economists, etc. for decades to come.[/QUOTE]
I think you're giving Trump too much credit. His most distinctive feature is populism - I mean, do you honestly believe he actually meant half the shit he said to the republican voter base during the campaign any more than he means half the shit he's saying now to appease to the left? I foresee if things go in his favor, his time in the office will be incredibly forgettable.
If there will be anything that puts his presidential career in the history books, it will be an event from the outside akin to 9/11 and his inability to deal with it properly a lá G.W. Bush.
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