Could a modern day PC emulate a 1968 Supercomputer?
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Don't quite understand Supercomputers, but Is a modern day PC able to do what a 1968 supercomputer could do?
Yes.
We got to the moon on 74KB.
Mobile phones nowadays have more powerful technology than the computers that helped in the Apollo missions, so yeah. Still, to fully emulate a machine (If using reverse engineering) you need a machine at least ten times more powerful than the one you want to emulate.
Your TI-83 Graphing Calculator is more advanced than the Lunar Lander's computers.
Definitely yes. An android phone is about on par with supercomputers from that era.
ITT: People who don't know anything about processing power
[QUOTE=IpHa;25695634]Definitely yes. An android phone is about on par with supercomputers from that era.[/QUOTE]
A standard Android phone is 1GHz.
I was thinking more along the lines of one of these:
[img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Cray-1-deutsches-museum.jpg[/img_thumb]
Cray-1
[QUOTE=Hypershadsy;25695568]We got to the moon on 74KB.[/QUOTE]
Of course, 640k should be enough for anyone.
[QUOTE=Banshee FrieNd;25695667]I was thinking more along the lines of one of these:
[img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Cray-1-deutsches-museum.jpg[/img_thumb]
Cray-1[/QUOTE]
80MHz.
So what year would supercomputers start outwitting Modern PC's?
[QUOTE=Hypershadsy;25695662]A standard Android phone is 1GHz.[/QUOTE]
So? The CDC 6600 from 1964 had a max speed of 3 MFLOPS. Your average android phone is between 8 and 12 MFLOPS.
[QUOTE=IpHa;25695930]So? The CDC 6600 from 1964 had a max speed of 3 MFLOPS. Your average android phone is between 8 and 12 MFLOPS.[/QUOTE]
Wikipedia says the CDC 6600 had a max speed of 1 MFLOP. Am I missing something?
[QUOTE=Hypershadsy;25695972]Wikipedia says the CDC 6600 had a max speed of 1 MFLOP. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]
I was looking here: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputer#Timeline_of_supercomputers[/url]
Not sure which is correct now.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_6600#The_Central_Processor_.28CP.29[/url]
At the top it says 1. At the link it says 3. Oh well, still a tad slower than Android.
I'm assuming you didn't hear how they have already emulated the Cray-1.
They fit it on an SBC.
[url]http://6268.org.ru/homebrew-cray-1a-supercomputer-emulates-a-cult-that-does-not-serve/[/url]
[img]http://6268.org.ru/uploadfiles/6268orgru-1283324462/homebrew-cray-1a-emulates-the-iconic-supercomputer-to-no-useful-purpose_1.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Jorori;25695593]to fully emulate a machine (If using reverse engineering) you need a machine at least ten times more powerful than the one you want to emulate.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://expressionflow.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/install-vmware-tools.png[/img]
Your move.
try running a game in it.
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as opposed to just installing windows xp directly and running the game from that
Indeed.
[QUOTE=MIPS;25696046]I'm assuming you didn't hear how they have already emulated the Cray-1.
They fit it on an SBC.
[url]http://6268.org.ru/homebrew-cray-1a-supercomputer-emulates-a-cult-that-does-not-serve/[/url]
[img_thumb]http://6268.org.ru/uploadfiles/6268orgru-1283324462/homebrew-cray-1a-emulates-the-iconic-supercomputer-to-no-useful-purpose_1.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
I would actually build one if there are schematics for it, as well as open sourced images for the microcontrollers.
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;25697251]I would actually build one if there are schematics for it, as well as open sourced images for the microcontrollers.[/QUOTE]
Hell, just the case would be awesome in mini-ITX format.
[QUOTE=MacTrekkie;25697290]Hell, just the case would be awesome in mini-ITX format.[/QUOTE]
The model imaged above is much smaller than an average mini-itx board.
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More like a pico-itx
[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;25697332]The model imaged above is much smaller than an average mini-itx board.
[editline]27th October 2010[/editline]
More like a pico-itx[/QUOTE]
Erm... Smartphone case? :v: It would be neat if there was a larger one for computers, though. Would be quite a catch at LAN parties, I'm sure.
modern virtualisation has near 100% CPU efficiency, its only stuff like graphics drivers that screw it over.
The real question is, when will we be able to emulate something like the Roadrunner?
[QUOTE=paul simon;25700025]The real question is, when will we be able to emulate something like the Roadrunner?[/QUOTE]
Theres faster now,
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianhe-I[/URL]
2.5 PFLOPs
Underclock. Alot.
[QUOTE=Captain Proton;25696914]try running a game in it.
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as opposed to just installing windows xp directly and running the game from that[/QUOTE]
I did run hl1 and cs1.6 in vmware and virtualbox.
I bet I could run hl2 but as far as I know vmware doesn't or did not support directx
[QUOTE=ItWasNiceToKnow;25703355]Underclock. Alot.[/QUOTE]
It... doesn't work like that.
[QUOTE=Siemens;25696867][img_thumb]http://expressionflow.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/install-vmware-tools.png[/img_thumb]
Your move.[/QUOTE]
Virtualization is not the same as emulation.
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