• GOP Continues To Oppose Contraception Coverage Plan Now Supported By Large Catholic Institutions
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[release]The U.S. Catholic Conference of Bishops almost [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/catholic-bishops-criticize-new-contraception-proposal.html"]immediately rejected[/URL] a [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/10/422863/contraception-accommodation-insurers-will-be-required-to-offer-contraception-coverage-free-of-charge/"]compromise[/URL] on requiring contraception coverage that the Obama administration announced on Friday, and Republicans have continued to attack the accommodation. Under the compromise, religious institutions will not be required to provide contraceptive coverage because insurers will provide contraception directly to employees [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/10/422863/contraception-accommodation-insurers-will-be-required-to-offer-contraception-coverage-free-of-charge/"]at no cost[/URL], completely removing religious institutions from the equation. But this deal was [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/10/423346/gop-ups-the-ante-introduces-legislation-to-allow-any-employer-to-deny-any-preventive-health-service/"]not enough[/URL] to satisfy conservative opposition. On ABC’s [I]This Week[/I], Rep. Paul Ryan echoed the Republican objection of contraception coverage. Ryan told host George Stephanopolous the compromise is nothing more than a “fig leaf” and an “accounting trick”: RYAN: To paraphrase the bishops’ letter, this thing, it’s a distinction without a difference. It’s an accounting gimmick or a fig leaf. [B]It’s not a compromise. The president’s doubled down.[/B] [...] If this is what the president’s willing to do in a tough election year, imagine what he’s going to do to implement the rest of his health care law after an election. STEPHANOPOLOUS: You heard Jack Lew right there, t[B]his is not going to force the institutions to pay for the coverage[/B]. [...] RYAN: It’s a distinction without a difference. [B]This is an accounting trick[/B]. Watch his interview: [video=youtube;bb3HzljR2qQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb3HzljR2qQ&[/video] Ryan’s own heavily-Catholic home state of Wisconsin currently mandates contraception coverage without any exclusion for religious institutions. As [URL="http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/02/09/422281/large-catholic-institutions-offered-contraception-even-before-mandated-to-do-so/"]ThinkProgress reported[/URL], Marquette University, a Jesuit institution located in Milwaukee, even decided to offer contraception coverage prior to the state’s mandate. White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew repeatedly defended President Obama’s decision on several Sunday morning TV shows. “It does not force an institution that has religious principle to offer or pay for benefits that they find objectionable, but it guarantees a women’s right to access,” [URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/210141-lew-obamas-latest-birth-control-position-final-puts-issue-to-rest"]Lew said[/URL] on Fox News Sunday. “Hopefully now this will set the issue to rest.” And Ryan and his Republican colleagues are arguing against a policy that [URL="http://www.coalitiontoprotectwomenshealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/catholics_and_birth_control_benefit.pdf"]a majority of Catholic voters support[/URL] and that major Catholic organizations favor, including the [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/both-catholic-health-assn-and-planned-parenthood-say-theyre-pleased-with-contraception-rule-announcement/"]Catholic Health Association[/URL], the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities and Catholic Charities USA. The Rev. [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/reaction-to-obamas-compromise-policy-on-birth-control-insurance-coverage/2012/02/10/gIQATzWq4Q_story.html"]John Jenkins[/URL], president of the Catholic-affiliated University of Notre Dame, supported President Obama’s compromise, calling it a “a welcome step toward recognizing the freedom of religious institutions to abide by the principles that define their respective missions.” As Republicans stand with the conservative Catholic bishops in opposition to allowing women to receive contraception at no cost, they are embracing an increasingly extreme anti-contraception position, with which even many Catholics disagree.[/release]
Just a shame the largest institution of them all, the Bishop Conference, doesn't agree.
What a bunch of fucking pricks.
Please Obama,don't be a dick and ignore these scumbags.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34683720]Just a shame the largest institution of them all, the Bishop Conference, doesn't agree.[/QUOTE] Good thing it's unconstitutional to officially consult what catholic organizations think when lawmaking so fuck them
they can't attack it socially so they make up bullshit economical reasons to shoot it down
Fuck off GOP.
What surprises me is that these organisations are not all males. There are many bigoted women in these groups who would honestly rather see younger versions of themselves pregnant and jobless at 16 than use a devil's jacket/condom. Fuck off GOP.
Also, just how? Just fucking [I]how[/I] is this against the first Amendment? We've already been over this. No one is being [B]forced[/B] to do anything that is against their religion. It is up to the employee on whether or not they want contraception and the employer does not have to provide it. The employee can go directly to the insurance, bypassing any religious objections the employer may have. The religious employer has not provided any contraceptives. The insurer gives it for free. Essentially, what this is boiling down to is the employer saying I don't want to pay for insurance that covers treatments I disagree with. Well, now the contraceptive is given to the employee for free, meaning the cost of the health plan remains unchanged and the employer doesn't have to pay for it. The employee gets the contraception anyone working at any non-religious business would get and the employer has not had to pay for the employee engaging in a practice they morally disagree with. No religion is repressed or required to fund something it doesn't agree with. Constitutionality proven.
It seems like a lot of the time the GOP opposes ideas supported by Obama just because it's Obama. Especially Mitch McConnell, he acts like a little child.
Thought I'd outline for you guys: Obama is just folding because he [U]needs[/U] votes. It's against the Catholic belief system to have contraception (meaning that God will give you children if it's his "plan") and the Catholic community is in an uproar. Now Obama has a pretty good chance of being reelected but it will be damn close if he is. The reason being is that a lot of states are fed up with his performance this term and are probably going to vote GOP this year. Now the key state that will probably decide the election will be Florida this year, and it seems that the GOP has a favorable hold over Florida. With a lot of Florida being Roman-Catholic practicing Hispanics, Obama needs to get points with the Hispanics so he can get their votes.
[QUOTE=mac338;34685494]It seems like a lot of the time the GOP opposes ideas supported by Obama just because it's Obama. Especially Mitch McConnell, he acts like a little child.[/QUOTE] Are they really that wrong, though? Remember that Obama is a synonym for Satan.
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;34685682]Thought I'd outline for you guys: Obama is just folding because he [U]needs[/U] votes. It's against the Catholic belief system to have contraception (meaning that God will give you children if it's his "plan") and the Catholic community is in an uproar. Now Obama has a pretty good chance of being reelected but it will be damn close if he is. The reason being is that a lot of states are fed up with his performance this term and are probably going to vote GOP this year. Now the key state that will probably decide the election will be Florida this year, and it seems that the GOP has a favorable hold over Florida. With a lot of Florida being Roman-Catholic practicing Hispanics, Obama needs to get points with the Hispanics so he can get their votes.[/QUOTE] I think the number of people who think that contraception is immoral is a tiny fraction of even the catholic community, this is just a bunch of wing nuts getting mad and making a disproportionate amount of noise as usual.
I never understood the "religious reason" why Christians think birth control is bad.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;34688549]I never understood the "religious reason" why Christians think birth control is bad.[/QUOTE] God killed a man for dispensing his semen before (or during) sex with a woman. The Christian faith does not allow sex unless the participants are willing to raise the child that will result from it.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;34688646]God killed a man for dispensing his semen before (or during) sex with a woman. The Christian faith does not allow sex unless the participants are willing to raise the child that will result from it.[/QUOTE] Unless it's rape, then fuck you go raise it anyway.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;34688549]I never understood the "religious reason" why Christians think birth control is bad.[/QUOTE] Because all life is sacred, as long as you're a white, god fearing, American, English speaking And church going.
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;34685682]Thought I'd outline for you guys: Obama is just folding because he [U]needs[/U] votes. It's against the Catholic belief system to have contraception (meaning that God will give you children if it's his "plan") and the Catholic community is in an uproar. [/QUOTE] Except according to the poll what Obama is doing here isn't as universally opposed as you're suggesting
[QUOTE=Lambeth;34689470]Except according to the poll what Obama is doing here isn't as universally opposed as you're suggesting[/QUOTE] In fact even a majority of Catholics support Obama's compromise, it's just the Republicans that are trying to force the issue.
(like they always do)
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