South Carolina Threatened to Secede From the Union if Confederate Flag is Removed from Capitol
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[QUOTE]South Carolina – Nikki Haley, Governor of South Carolina, has announced that she is in support of removing the confederate flag from the state’s capitol grounds following the recent shooting that occurred in Charleston, South Carolina. “Today, we are here to say it is time to move the flag from the Capitol grounds,” Nikki Haley said as she was heckled by onlookers of her speech.Despite the Governor’s new position on the Confederate Flag, members of South Carolina’s House of Representatives believes the flag represents the culture of South Carolina and should not be removed because some people do not like to see it. A petition has started within the House of Representatives for the state to secede from the United States if the confederate flag is removed. Those who defend the flag, including the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a social and political group in the South, insist the flag is a symbol of the state’s past and no longer carries the racist meaning.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://newswatch33.com/news/south-carolina-threatens-to-secede-from-the-union-if-confederate-flag-is-removed[/url]
As much as I don't want this to happen, I want it to happen
is that even possible?
to be that dumb I mean
bye
Fucking do it then.
See if anyone cares.
The whole thing about the Confederate flag is just a smokescreen. It won't affect the people doing this shit one way or another. These groups actively recruit like the Islamic jihad. They use the internet. They brainwash people and plant the seeds of racism through actions that would seem like outrageous conspiracy if you were to ever attempt to connect it back to them. They promise people the glory of things such as Crusade or use iconography and symbolism that makes them very tempting to outcasts.
And now all the Confederate flag shit will do is calcify the hatred and cause those seeds to sprout. Those they've tainted will feel as though they're under attack, and they'll double down on those ideals.
[QUOTE=J!NX;48066106]is that even possible?
to be that dumb I mean[/QUOTE]
Any state can claim rights to succeed. But it is really fucking stupid to do.
Texas has special rights in terms of succession IIRC
Imagine a state threatening to secede for some big reason, like forcing the government to rebuild the corrections system or not forcing mandatory health insurace country-wide or something like that
But no, a flag
last i saw south carolina's education wasn't that great
this isn't surprising
Fairly certain it's impossible/illegal to actually secede through legal channels.
They would have to do it by force.
And they won't get that far, they just want to shout their discontent the only way people know will get attention.
"The South Carolina Chivalry they once did loudly boast
That the footsteps of a Union man should ne'er pollute their coast
They'd fight the Yankees two to one who only fought for booty
But when the mudsills came along it was legs do your duty.
With a whack, row de dow!
Babylon is fallen
Whack, row de dow!
The end is drawing near
And from the sacred city, this valiant warlike throng
Skedaddled in confusion, although thirty thousand strong
Without a shot, without a blow, or least sign of resistance
And leaving their poor friends behind, with the Yankees for assistance
With a whack, row de dow!
How are you Southern chivalry?
Whack, row de dow!
Your race is nearly run"
It worked out so well for you last time, I'll give you three guesses how it can end if you do it again.
Looks like the confederacy never really was gone.
Well, [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1473184]judging by other circumstances,[/url] it's a bit too late for them to complain now.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;48066202]Any state can claim rights to succeed. But it is really fucking stupid to do.
Texas has special rights in terms of succession IIRC[/QUOTE]
That's a myth. We can however, divide the state of Texas into five different states at any given moment.
Another civil war IS coming. "Dragged kicking and screaming" usually ends in "millions dead in civil war".
[QUOTE=OvB;48066310]That's a myth. We can however, divide the state of Texas into five different states at any given moment.[/QUOTE]
do you think that would be a good thing to do? i have a friend that lives in texas that says there are great parts of texas and awful parts of texas
dagummit obammer, da sawth will raise agaien!!!!
stupid fucking rednecks.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;48066202]Any state can claim rights to succeed. But it is really fucking stupid to do.
Texas has special rights in terms of succession IIRC[/QUOTE]
They don't.
Trust us, we tried.
The Civil War dealt a lot with the issue of secession in its early years up until about 1863. The big issue in most states was whether or not a state bore the right to secede. We did in the Articles of Confederation but technically the Constitution is considered "Supreme Law of the Land," which means states can't secede from the Union.
Technically you could secede but it requires a huge referendum of all 50 states to decide whether or not you are allowed to and even then it requires the approval of all 49 other states for one state to secede IIRC
[QUOTE=Sand Castle;48066332]do you think that would be a good thing to do? i have a friend that lives in texas that says there are great parts of texas and awful parts of texas[/QUOTE]
Well, considering each state gets 2 senators in the Senate, it would basically give Texas 10 senators. (2 for each mini-Texas)
[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_divisionism[/url]
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;48066288]Looks like the confederacy never really was gone.[/QUOTE]
I wish I could say otherwise, but it sadly is kind of true, neo-Confederate attitudes run very strong in the south, thanks in no small amount to our Federal Government's hands off approach to education that has allowed them to pretty much completely rewrite their teaching of Civil War history with pro-CSA propaganda. I don't want to say that everyone in the south falls for it, but there are certainly enough to be a potential threat in the event of things coming to a head, which between this recent fight over confederate white supremacists and the gay marriage ruling, is looking worryingly likely.
Pretty much according to some people in the supreme court, its legally impossible to secede from the union.
I grow more ashamed of where I live every day... thank goodness I'm not native to SC.
Is there another source for this? I haven't been able to find any other news sites at all talking about it.
Ok, this appears incredibly fake. [url=http://m.snopes.com/dylann-roof-donations/]A quote from a Snopes page on another article from the same site:[/url]
[quote=Snopes]However, this article is nothing but fiction; and its source, NewsWatch33, is a fake news site that coincidentally appeared on the scene just after the very similar NewsWatch28 fake news site apparently shut down — likely a switch intended to keep its operators one step ahead of Facebook’s clampdown on purveyors of hoaxes.[/quote]
Probably why this is site is the only search result.
Sure worked out real well for your Northern counterpart last time, huh?
If this actually happened, then I'd be passing into foreign soil every time I went to work at Harris Teeter :v:
I don't get why you would ever fly this flag.
Let's say the flag really doesn't represent racism/slavery (even though it does). Let's pretend it stands for states rights and southern pride.
You're still flying a flag that represents treason. The exact opposite of patriotism. Its a flag that represents a movement that [i]fought a bloody war[/i] against the United States. It's completely un-American. You are [i]rebel scum[/i].
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;48067139]I don't get why you would ever fly this flag.
Let's say the flag really doesn't represent racism/slavery (even though it does). Let's pretend it stands for states rights and southern pride.
You're still flying a flag that represents treason. The exact opposite of patriotism. Its a flag that represents a movement that [i]fought a bloody war[/i] against the United States. It's completely un-American. You are [i]rebel scum[/i].[/QUOTE]
Because a LOT of people in the south don't feel the government of the united states represents them anyways. If the government doesn't care about them, why should they care about the government?
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;48067155]Because a LOT of people in the south don't feel the government of the united states represents them anyways. If the government doesn't care about them, why should they care about the government?[/QUOTE]
Trying to stomp out the southern flag is going to cause [thread=1473216]more problems[/thread] than it fixes.
Thought that this was fake, considering it was already taken down once.
[video=youtube;gr-mt1P94cQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr-mt1P94cQ[/video]
fucking south carolina, we went over this already, you [I]can't[/I] do this
[editline]27th June 2015[/editline]
they didn't have a military industrial complex to fight against in the 1860's
Did you guys know that GTA 6 was announced?
[url]https://newswatch33.com/technology/rockstar-confirms-grand-theft-auto-6-capitol-city[/url]
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