Fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes!
Mahmoud Abbas is willing to forget about the Wailing wall and a few settlements in the West Bank, I FUCKING LOVE THIS GUY!!
[url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/report-abbas-agrees-to-israeli-control-over-jewish-holy-sites-in-jerusalem-1.299798[/url]
[release][B][B][B][U][U]Report: Abbas agrees to Israeli control over Jewish holy sites in Jerusalem[/U][/U][/B][/B][/B]
[B]PA president hands U.S. special envoy Mitchell a list of written proposals for a peace deal with Israel, including suggestions on borders and Jerusalem, Al-Hayat reports.[/B]
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has given U.S. special envoy George Mitchell a list of written proposals for reaching a peace agreement with Israel, which includes leaving the Jewish Quarter in Jerusalem and Western Wall under Israeli control, Arabic-language daily Al-Hayat reported on Saturday.
PA President Mahmoud Abbas with U.S. special envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell.
Photo by: Getty Images
According to the report, Abbas offered Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a set of concrete proposals for a peace deal, including proposals on borders and security arrangements.
Abbas is said to have proposed the creation of a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, but with a land swap encompassing 2.3 percent, which would leave larger settlement blocs such as Gush Etzion, Pisgat Ze'ev and Modi'in Ilit in Israel's hands, along with a swathe of land overlooking Ben-Gurion International Airport.
In return, the Palestinians would get land bordering the southern West Bank in addition to land for a passageway between the West Bank and Gaza.
The report also said Abbas presented a softened stance on East Jerusalem, which would become the future capital of the Palestinian state. Abbas reportedly proposed that Israel would retain control over the Old City's Jewish Quarter and Western Wall, while the rest of East Jerusalem would be open to worshippers of all religions.
Palestinian sources told Al-Hayat that Netanyahu has only responded to Mitchell by saying that he wants face-to-face talks with Abbas. The Palestinians have been wary of direct negotiations, fearing that Netanyahu wants to bring them to the table in order to decrease international pressure on Israel with no intention of signing a deal.
The report also quoted Palestinian sources close to Abbas, who say the Palestinian leader expects more effective U.S. participation in peace talks, with some saying Abbas wants the Obama administration to impose a settlement if negotiations fail.
Netanyahu this week called on Abbas to enter direct negotiations.
“I’m ready anytime,” Netanyahu said. “Let’s not waste another 15 months before we sit down together.”[/release]
I knew something will come out of these peace talks, now it's up to Israel to forgive and forget, move the settlers out of the West Bank and parts of East Jerusalem, and help ol' friendly Mahmoud create a Palestinian state!
If we won't, I'm gonna rage.
Twenty bucks you won't.
Didn't see thIs coming....
Things are cooling down finally.
They are moving forward, only to move back twenty steps when Israel decides for some arbitrary reason to be a dick. Seriously, they are always talking about "peace" but they never get anywhere, then Israel does something, the world gets pissed, and Israel goes back to talking about peace.
It's a never ending cycle. They won't be peace there until both sides lose their extremist hate for each other.
Tiny little problem. This place right here is considered a holy site in both Judaism and Islam:
[IMG]http://www.gojerusalem.com/_media/userfiles/2/424/451.jpg[/IMG]
Why not? What Israel wants out of the current situation with the West Bank and Jerusalem (as in, Gaza not included) is the Wailing wall and maybe some right-wingers want some of the older settlements to remain in Israeli hands. I don't think anyone other than the few extremists living there actually care about the new settlements that are being built, and would gladly give them up for peace, which is quite in reach thanks to Abbas.
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[QUOTE=TheLittleBus;23081639]Tiny little problem. This place right here is considered a holy site in both Judaism and Islam:
[IMG]http://www.gojerusalem.com/_media/userfiles/2/424/451.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's not considered a holy site in Judaism.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23081663] I'm pretty sure it's not considered a holy site in Judaism.[/QUOTE]
Orthodox Judaism says you can't even go near the place. So I'd say it's pretty holy.
[QUOTE=TheLittleBus;23085273]Orthodox Judaism says you can't even go near the place. So I'd say it's pretty holy.[/QUOTE]
Oh oops, I always forget that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is believed to be on the grounds where the first and second temples were.
Holy shit!!! World peace just might be possible. :D
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23085582]Oh oops, I always forget that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is believed to be on the grounds where the first and second temples were.[/QUOTE]
You were probably joking but for future reference its a holy site to Islam and Judaism because Solomon's temple was there and thats where Muhammad ascended to heaven.
Its disputed because the Jews had their shit there first and the Muslims won't let Jews anywhere near it.
Back on track, the next step is for the Jews to get the hell out of Israel and scatter to the wind so we won't have to deal with their shit anymore.
'This just in. 50 more Palestinian hovels were bulldozed in effort to create a hotel'
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;23086516]'This just in. 50 more Palestinian hovels were bulldozed in effort to create a hotel'[/QUOTE]
Let's not go there like all the other threads.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;23086466]You were probably joking but for future reference its a holy site to Islam and Judaism because Solomon's temple was there and thats where Muhammad ascended to heaven.
Its disputed because the Jews had their shit there first and the Muslims won't let Jews anywhere near it.
Back on track, the next step is for the Jews to get the hell out of Israel and scatter to the wind so we won't have to deal with their shit anymore.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't joking, it's just that the temple mount today isn't talked about much, usually the Wailing wall is more "important".
Why the hell should Jews get out of Israel? It's our home.
Are my eyes decieving me? The Jews and Arabs agreed on something??!!
I think my eyes are deceiving me as well: [url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/public-security-minister-settlers-won-t-forcibly-evict-east-jerusalem-palestinians-1.299833[/url]
Right-wingers doing something right for a change?? (sorry about the bad pun).
I'd be surprised if thousands of years of violence ended that easily.
Try a hundred years.
Meanwhile here comes Hamas to fuck up everything
[QUOTE=Broseph_;23087722]Meanwhile here comes Hamas to fuck up everything[/QUOTE]
I think Israel could make peace with the PA and help create a Palestinian state in the West Bank even with the current conflict with the Hamas, which will be resolved on its own sometime in the future.
If actual progress is made between the Israel and the Palestinian Authority, I reckon Hamas would be forced to come to the table.
It's not israel agreeing on something or making concessions. Totally useless
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It's like saying "we let you take poland" to hitler during WW2.
[QUOTE=Ickylevel;23088769]It's not israel agreeing on something or making concessions. Totally useless
[editline]12:07AM[/editline]
It's like saying "we let you take poland" to hitler during WW2.[/QUOTE]
:godwin:
These peace talks will never follow through. Jews and Palestinians will just poop back and forth with the same poop. Forever.
Jews ))<>(( Palestinians
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TOk925l-5I[/media]
[release]Nobody was murdered in the peace talks in Israel[/release]
[QUOTE=TheLittleBus;23081639]Tiny little problem. This place right here is considered a holy site in both Judaism and Islam:
[IMG_THUMB]http://www.gojerusalem.com/_media/userfiles/2/424/451.jpg[/IMG_THUMB][/QUOTE]According to the proposal, East Jerusalem, apart from the Jewish Quarter, would be open to all worshippers. Temple Mount isn't in the Jewish quarter, so Israel doesn't get complete control over it.
If Isreal give in a bit (retreating from gaza for example), i bet HAMAS will get less support from (extremist) civilians.
But lets hope this works to begin with.
Give it a few weeks.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23081468]Fuck yes fuck yes fuck yes!
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Stop trying to justify all of your wrongs by attempting to shit over our eyes.
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Also; this is a bullshit attempt by Israel to gain some political power again.
[QUOTE=Sickle;23103303]Stop trying to justify all of your wrongs by attempting to shit over our eyes.[/QUOTE]
Stop thinking we're the worst country on the planet.
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