• Egypt protests: Hillary Clinton signals US backing for Omar Suleiman
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[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Egypt-protests---Hillary--007.jpg[/img] [release]The US secretary of state Hillary Clinton today signalled how far the US has swung its support behind vice-president Omar Suleiman and the transition process he is leading in Egypt. Clinton was speaking at a security conference in Munich today, where the watchword on Egypt was the need for orderly transition. In her most striking remarks, the US secretary of state said: "There are forces at work in any society, particularly one that is facing these kind of challenges, that will try to derail or overtake the process to pursue their own agenda, which is why I think it's important to follow the transition process announced by the Egyptian government, actually headed by vice-president Omar Suleiman." She was presumably referring ito Suleiman's leadership of the transition rather than the government, but US officials have told their European colleagues that they view Suleiman as increasingly in control. Clinton went on to say the transition should be transparent and inclusive, while setting out "concrete steps", moving towards orderly elections in September. She listed with approval the steps the Egyptian government had taken so far.[/release] [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/05/hillary-clinton-omar-suleiman-egypt]Source[/url] Okay it's not surprising for the US to back a pro-American figure, slightly worrying for Egypt that the guy is implicated in torture and has a very military background though.
Can't we keep our dick out of ANYTHING? The US shouldn't be backing ANY person over there, regardless of pro- or con- American.
I say nuke the sphinxter.
For fuck's sake. Egyptian citizens are so boned if they let this guy rule them, they'll never let it happen.
My country's government molests and rapes other governments for its own benefit. It sickens me.
What does US think it is? Coming to the middle of the fight like they own the fucking world. Seriously, they should stay away from these kind of things. They are always thinking about money and what's the best for them
looks like hillary's been suckin too many lemons you sour bitch
Hillary is a whore.
Come the fuck on! We've wanted democracy to spread in the Middle East since the early Cold War. The Egyptians want it, let's just let it happen and not break it.
my fucking god US shouldnt be involved here definitely DEFINITELY not our problem
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;27890848]Hillary is a whore.[/QUOTE] what the hell lol
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;27890849]Come the fuck on! We've wanted democracy to spread in the Middle East since the early Cold War. The Egyptians want it, let's just let it happen and not break it.[/QUOTE] By democracy, they always mean pro-American governments.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;27874993]My country's government molests and rapes other governments for its own benefit. It sickens me.[/QUOTE] Hey, if they didn't want it, they shouldn't have been strutting around with those sexy oil fields and leading us on!
[QUOTE=Contag;27911789]By democracy, they always mean pro-American governments.[/QUOTE] That's what I was hinting at. :frown:
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;27911854]That's what I was hinting at. :frown:[/QUOTE] In that case, it's the same as Latin America. Hopefully though, the US doesn't depose legitimate, democratic governments like they did there.
[QUOTE=Contag;27911891]In that case, it's the same as Latin America. Hopefully though, the US doesn't depose legitimate, democratic governments like they did there.[/QUOTE] Why can't we be the good guys anymore?!? After the Cold War, we become the Roman Empire. :crying:
[QUOTE=Lord_Ragnarok;27911907]Why can't we be the good guys anymore?!? After the Cold War, we become the Roman Empire. :crying:[/QUOTE] Wait, are you trying to imply that the US were the good guys during the Cold War? Or even, that there were good guys?
Fuck.
Holy shit guys, it says it in fourth paragraph. [quote]She was presumably referring ito Suleiman's leadership of the transition rather than the government, but US officials have told their European colleagues that they view Suleiman as increasingly in control.[/quote] And of course the US will have an opinion. They are not "sticking their dick" in anything. In a global environment like today's world, of course the US will want someone who will agree with them.
I love how one person in our government shows support towards someone who's working on the transition in Egypt, and Facepunch immediately froths at the mouth and jumps the "Fuck America" train. We're not sticking our dick in to jack-shit here. It's verbal support. There's nothing wrong with that. Are we sending in people there? No. Are we imposing our way of thinking there? No. Chill the fuck out. [editline]7th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=5killer;27916112]Holy shit guys, it says it in fourth paragraph. And of course the US will have an opinion. They are not "sticking their dick" in anything. In a global environment like today's world, of course the US will want someone who will agree with them.[/QUOTE] Dammit, you beat me to it. :v:
I'm Egyptian and I want Suleiman to lead us.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSzdgz2ZLs[/media] Interfering with Middle-Eastern revolutions has NOT ended well for use before.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;27926635][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSzdgz2ZLs[/media] Interfering with Middle-Eastern revolutions has NOT ended well for use before.[/QUOTE] Where in that post does it say that anyone is interfering in anything? :colbert:
If I ever become president, I'm going to have a little model of the Jurassic park gate on my desk called the America door. Every time someone comes into my office asking to go do something in another country or to support some leader in a far away country, I'm going to ask them if the America door is open. If it isn't they need to back the fun bus the fuck up and go do something to help OUR Country instead of sticking our nose in everyone else's business. There's a difference, a HUGE difference between making sure another place is ok and meddling in their affairs. Then, I would turn the whitehouse into a club and they'd call me President bitchmastah tomtom. But seriously, as a person who cares about what happens in Egypt, I want Suleiman.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;27928123]If I ever become president, I'm going to have a little model of the Jurassic park gate on my desk called the America door. Every time someone comes into my office asking to go do something in another country or to support some leader in a far away country, I'm going to ask them if the America door is open. If it isn't they need to back the fun bus the fuck up and go do something to help OUR Country instead of sticking our nose in everyone else's business. There's a difference, a HUGE difference between making sure another place is ok and meddling in their affairs. Then, I would turn the whitehouse into a club and they'd call me President bitchmastah tomtom. But seriously, as a person who cares about what happens in Egypt, I want Suleiman.[/QUOTE] You don't seem to understand how International Politics works. Let's say you're in school. For two years your grades are straight D's. One day you buck up and your grades immediately turn around. Now let's say your teachers, parents and everyone else totally ignore you and act as if it didn't happen. Where is your motivation to continue? The US' backing of the protesters in this amounts to nothing more than the student who sits across from you flashing a thumbs-up and an approving nod in your direction. Because of the size of the country the rest of the world looks at each other to take stances on important issues. If you say nothing, you're either looked at as weak, or in support of the status quo. It's a lose-lose situation that many people don't seem to get.
[QUOTE=Contag;27912148]Wait, are you trying to imply that the US were the good guys during the Cold War? Or even, that there were good guys?[/QUOTE] They were a lot better than the USSR.
[QUOTE=Earthen;27930042]They were a lot better than the USSR.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say 'a lot' better. Ask people in Latin America, or during McCarthy era. [editline]8th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Contag;27930163]I wouldn't say 'a lot' better. Ask people in Latin America, or during McCarthy era.[/QUOTE] Both countries fucked over millions upon millions of people. There were no good guys, and no real concept of 'better'. That said, I'm happy with the way things turned out. No global nuclear war, at least!
Wait? How much oil does Egypt have?
[QUOTE=cyanidem;27930402]Wait? How much oil does Egypt have?[/QUOTE] 4.4 billion barrels of proven oil reserves. 25th most oil rich state.
I bet she gets oil for this. For cooking.
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