[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39487824]By their logic, the Wii isn't a current gen console.[/QUOTE]
In terms of specs the Wii is like a gamecube.
The majority of console games are limited by their performance. There would be a lot more innovation if game developers could make good looking games while simultaneously having complex environments. Its very hard to market a game with really shitty graphics these days so in practice graphics will take priority.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;39487932]In terms of specs the Wii is like a gamecube.
The majority of console games are limited by their performance. There would be a lot more innovation if game developers could make good looking games while simultaneously having complex environments. Its very hard to market a game with really shitty graphics these days so in practice graphics will take priority.[/QUOTE]
In terms of specs, the Wii is basically two Gamecubes duct-taped together. I referred to it frequently as a half-generation advance over the Gamecube, which put it half a generation behind the PS3/360. That's Gamecube/PS2/Xbox = Gen 6, Wii = Gen 6.5, PS3/Xbox360 = Gen 7, and Wii U = Gen 7.5.
The Wii U is a significant improvement over the Wii. It's a triple-core design, with each core running at nearly twice the clock of the original. That's not too powerful compared to the XBox's chip, but beats the PPE (what I consider the actual CPU) of the PS3. The Wii U also has a much more powerful GPU - I'd rate it about 50% faster than the Xbox's, and roughly twice that of the PS3's (although the PS3 also has those SPE coprocessors that can do a lot of the graphics work, which no other recent console has equivalents for). Then there's the gobs of relatively-fast memory - even with half the RAM occupied by the OS, it has twice the memory of either other console.
Obviously, the Wii U is going to get thrashed by whatever Microsoft and Sony unveil next. Hell, my laptop makes it look pathetic. But you also have to note that it's a much smaller, much less power-hungry, and even a cheaper console than normal. $349 for the Deluxe model? Even the base model of the PS3 was more expensive at launch, and only the hard-driveless Core Xbox 360 was cheaper. And right now it has no competition - expect price drops once the Orbis/Durango join the fray.
As Sega once said, "It's not how many colors you have, it's what you do with them."
And even then, what will matter will be the games.
"The internals are horrible compared to [i]X[/i] so it must be garbage."
[QUOTE=gman003-main;39488684]In terms of specs, the Wii is basically two Gamecubes duct-taped together. I referred to it frequently as a half-generation advance over the Gamecube, which put it half a generation behind the PS3/360. That's Gamecube/PS2/Xbox = Gen 6, Wii = Gen 6.5, PS3/Xbox360 = Gen 7, and Wii U = Gen 7.5.
The Wii U is a significant improvement over the Wii. It's a triple-core design, with each core running at nearly twice the clock of the original. That's not too powerful compared to the XBox's chip, but beats the PPE (what I consider the actual CPU) of the PS3. The Wii U also has a much more powerful GPU - I'd rate it about 50% faster than the Xbox's, and roughly twice that of the PS3's (although the PS3 also has those SPE coprocessors that can do a lot of the graphics work, which no other recent console has equivalents for). Then there's the gobs of relatively-fast memory - even with half the RAM occupied by the OS, it has twice the memory of either other console.
Obviously, the Wii U is going to get thrashed by whatever Microsoft and Sony unveil next. Hell, my laptop makes it look pathetic. But you also have to note that it's a much smaller, much less power-hungry, and even a cheaper console than normal. $349 for the Deluxe model? Even the base model of the PS3 was more expensive at launch, and only the hard-driveless Core Xbox 360 was cheaper. And right now it has no competition - expect price drops once the Orbis/Durango join the fray.[/QUOTE]
They are already selling the U at a loss, I don't really expect a drop until tech develops far enough to make it cheaper to make
[QUOTE=gman003-main;39488684]In terms of specs, the Wii is basically two Gamecubes duct-taped together. I referred to it frequently as a half-generation advance over the Gamecube, which put it half a generation behind the PS3/360. That's Gamecube/PS2/Xbox = Gen 6, Wii = Gen 6.5, PS3/Xbox360 = Gen 7, and Wii U = Gen 7.5.[/QUOTE]
So the Wii U is like
SIX GAMECUBES TAPED TOGETHER?
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;39489856]So the Wii U is like
SIX GAMECUBES TAPED TOGETHER?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but they also upgraded from duct tape to speed tape. And drew little flames on the side to make it go faster.
I'm not too worried if the Wii U doesn't do well; while I am sad that Iwata is considering resignation if they don't meet profits this year, at the very least Nintendo won't go under thanks to the stockpiles of money they earned from the Wii. let's hope that a failure with the Wii U will push Nintendo to go beyond next generation's graphics.
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;39487645]Graphics do not equal next gen[/QUOTE]
rofl get your facts straight
graphics don't make the game, but remember that graphics aren't just the ~visuals~, better hardware means better gameplay capabilities
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