Edward Snowden's father proposes return conditions.
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[QUOTE]The father of intelligence leaker Edward Snowden has said in an interview he believes his son would go back to the US if several conditions were met.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23100746[/url]
Im sure some men in black suits have paid him a visit
You can't possibly expect the US to actually uphold these terms even if they do agree.
If I was president, I would give Snowden a metal
[QUOTE=Iago;41225882]If I was president, I would give Snowden a metal[/QUOTE]
Which one? He seems like an iridium kind of guy to me
[QUOTE=Iago;41225882]If I was president, I would give Snowden a medal[/QUOTE]somehow i doubt that
people tend to change when they get a hold of the highly unstable element called Power
[QUOTE=smurfy;41225908]Which one? He seems like an iridium kind of guy to me[/QUOTE]Fuck that dude, iridium is one of the rarest elements on Earth. Just give him an ingot of copper and he'd damn well better be happy about it.
[QUOTE=smurfy;41225908]Which one? He seems like an iridium kind of guy to me[/QUOTE]
He seems more like a chromium person.
His dad is a massive tool.
[quote]"I hope, I pray and ask that you will not release any secrets that could constitute treason," Lon Snowden said in an interview with Fox News.[/quote]
[quote]"[B]I would rather my son be a prisoner in the US than a free man in a country that [does] not have the kind of freedoms that we have[/B]”[/quote]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22952011[/url]
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41225970]His dad is a massive tool.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22952011[/url][/QUOTE]
It sounds so dumb it's properly scripted.
[editline]28th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Joazzz;41225941]somehow i doubt that
people tend to change when they get a hold of the highly unstable element called Power[/QUOTE]
Let's start a kickstarter to make a statue of him, as much a protest against the NSA thing since nobody is willing to go protest at DC with me.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41225970]His dad is a massive tool.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22952011[/url][/QUOTE]
Freedoms like privacy?
[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;41225791]Im sure some men in black suits have paid him a visit[/QUOTE]
It is pretty obvious:
[quote]
He also voiced concern his son was being exploited by Wikileaks, which has offered legal assistance to the 30-year-old.
"I don't want to put him in peril, but I am concerned about those who surround him," he said.
"I think Wikileaks, if you've looked at past history, you know, their focus isn't necessarily the constitution of the United States. It's simply to release as much information as possible."[/quote]
[QUOTE][B]"I would rather my son be a prisoner in the US than a free man in a country that [does] not have the kind of freedoms that we have.”[/B][/QUOTE]
I absolutely fucking hate people who say this. Pretty much any western nation has the freedoms, and maybe more freedoms, as we do. Some countries gotta learn to not take it up the ass from the United States anymore.
Land of the free, my ass.
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;41226326]I absolutely fucking hate people who say this. Pretty much any western nation has the freedoms, and maybe more freedoms, as we do. Some countries gotta learn to not take it up the ass from the United States anymore.
Land of the free, my ass.[/QUOTE]
He's been to China and Russia and is planning to go to Ecuador
[QUOTE=Zambies!;41226433]He's been to China and Russia and is planning to go to Ecuador[/QUOTE]
I know. They're the only countries that wouldn't bend over to America's red, white and blue dick as far as I know.
[QUOTE]The father of Edward Snowden, the ex-CIA worker who leaked top secret information on US surveillance programmes, has issued a public plea urging his son to not commit [B]"treason"[/B].[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure its too late for that. Besides, how stupid does the USA think Snowden is? If he was smart enough to leak all the information in the first place, hes smart enough to know that coming back to the US is a horrible idea.
[QUOTE=Iago;41225995]It sounds so dumb it's properly scripted.
[editline]28th June 2013[/editline]
Let's start a kickstarter to make a statue of him, as much a protest against the NSA thing since nobody is willing to go protest at DC with me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, we can put it right next to your statue about how much better you are at being indignant than everyone else.
[quote][B]"I would rather my son be a prisoner in the US than a free man in a country that [does] not have the kind of freedoms that we have”[/B][/quote]
[I]"Muh freedoms" - an expression used to indicate an American's lack of understanding or confusion.
When confronted with something he cannot understand or cannot respond to, Americans mumble "Muh freedoms", or "muh freedoms muthafucka".
This is often followed by clapping or stuffing their faces with burgers. -RLP[/I]
[QUOTE]"I would rather my son be a prisoner in the US than a free man in a country that [does] not have the kind of freedoms that we have”
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The following is unused parts of the interview quoted above:
"N-no... The man staring at us in the trench coat to the left isn't an-anything to worry about."
"No, I don't see that thing sticking out of his sleeve! How could you say that? He... He's my lawyer. ANYWAY! We must bring back home! He's just a misunderstood kid! Prison will keep him safe. Are you listening, son?"
No way the father wasn't threatened.
[QUOTE=Incoming.;41227227]The following is unused parts of the interview quoted above:
"N-no... The man staring at us in the trench coat to the left isn't an-anything to worry about."
"No, I don't see and thing sticking out of his sleeve! How could you say that? He... He's my lawyer. ANYWAY! We must bring back home! He's just a misunderstood kid! Prison will keep him safe. Are you listening, son?"
No way the father wasn't threatened.[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;41226326]I absolutely fucking hate people who say this. Pretty much any western nation has the freedoms, and maybe more freedoms, as we do. Some countries gotta learn to not take it up the ass from the United States anymore.
Land of the free, my ass.[/QUOTE]
But the 2nd ammandment is the most freedom any man can experience right+??????
When you naw down to the bone of the US, it really isn't a free country, he's better off living in Russia for the rest of his life or Ecuador
[QUOTE=Tea Guy;41227248]What?[/QUOTE]
The plea feels forced if you read the whole thing.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;41227335]When you naw down to the bone of the US, it really isn't a free country, he's better off living in Russia for the rest of his life or Ecuador[/QUOTE]
For Snowden yes. Now if you were an infant with the choice of being born in any of those 3 countries, you would pick the United States.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;41227400]For Snowden yes. Now if you were an infant with the choice of being born in any of those 3 countries, you would pick the United States.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I'd still choose Ecuador or Russia, you'd get a decent fucking education thats for sure, I've heard too much negativity about the US school system
[QUOTE]"...his son would voluntarily return to the United States if there were ironclad assurances that his constitutional rights would be honored," [/QUOTE]
He will never return.
*Insert picture of Admiral Ackbar*
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41225970]His dad is a massive tool.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22952011[/url][/QUOTE]
I find it sad his dad would even say that. If Snowden returns to the US (I dont even know why he would) he'd probably be locked away in some cell and never see the light of day. His father probably wouldn't even be able to see him without going through years of red tape.
[QUOTE=Juggernog;41225825]You can't possibly expect the US to actually uphold these terms even if they do agree.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zareox7;41227758]I find it sad his dad would even say that. If Snowden returns to the US (I dont even know why he would) he'd probably be locked away in some cell and never see the light of day. [/QUOTE]
People keep asserting this like we live in an Orwellian police state where the government can just 'disappear' well-known and public people at will.
Can you give me any examples of a high-profile suspect being abused in this manner? Has there ever been a well-known public case where the suspect's rights have been ignored and they've been locked away without trial?
And as for the unsurprising and completely unsupported assertion that he's being forced to say this:
[quote]"I know you're your own man and you're going to do what you feel you have to do," Lon Snowden said in a statement addressed to his son.
"I don't know what you've seen but I just ask that you measure what you're going to do and not release any more information."
Lon Snowden told the US broadcaster he was "saddened" by his son's decision to leak the information, but also criticised the US government's alleged surveillance programme.
[B]"I don't want them reading my email. If we say, 'We're going to have to sacrifice our freedoms because of the threat of terrorism', well, the terrorists have already won," he said.[/B][/quote]
Does that [I]really[/I] sound like something the US government would tell someone to say?
Is it really so impossible to believe that his own father wants him to face justice rather than spend the rest of his life as a fugitive?
[QUOTE=catbarf;41227860]
Can you give me any examples of a high-profile suspect being abused in this manner? Has there ever been a well-known public case where the suspect's rights have been ignored and they've been locked away without trial?
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How about being brutally murdered?
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