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[QUOTE]The Federal Communications Commission announced on Tuesday that it planned to dismantle landmark regulations that ensure equal access to the internet, clearing the way for companies to charge more and block access to some websites.
The proposal, put forward by the F.C.C. chairman, Ajit Pai, is a sweeping repeal of rules put in place by the Obama administration. The rules prohibited high-speed internet service providers from blocking or slowing down the delivery of websites, or charging extra fees for the best quality of streaming and other internet services for their subscribers. Those limits are central to the concept called net neutrality.
The action immediately reignited a loud and furious fight over free speech and the control of the internet, pitting telecom giants like AT&T against internet giants like Google and Amazon, who warn against powerful telecom gatekeepers. Both sides are expected to lobby hard in Washington to push their agendas, as they did when the existing rules were adopted.
“Under my proposal, the federal government will stop micromanaging the internet,” Mr. Pai said in a statement. “Instead, the F.C.C. would simply require internet service providers to be transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy the service plan that’s best for them and entrepreneurs and other small businesses can have the technical information they need to innovate.”[/QUOTE]
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Goodbye internet. It was nice having you for the majority of my life and it's a tragedy of the highest order you're going to be used to subjugate a population who has been crippled by decades of intentional education slashing leaving a nation too uninformed and too misled to save itself.
Keep fighting it, nonstop, even if they repeal fight tooth-and-nail to get it back in 2018 and 2020
Coming in 3-4 years.
Former FCC Chairman Ajit Pai was announced as vice president of <insert internet cable phone provider> .
[QUOTE]The proposal from Mr. Pai, a Republican, is widely expected to be approved during a Dec. 14 meeting in a 3-to-2 party line vote from the agency’s five commissioners. But some companies will probably put up a legal fight, or actions by lawmakers, to prevent it from taking hold.
The clear winners from the move would be the[B] giant companies that provide internet access to phones and computers, which have fought for years against broadband regulations.[/B] A repeal of the rules would [B]allow the companies to exert more control over the online experiences of American consumers.[/B]
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Once again, the corporations are exerting their massive war chests to attack the freedoms of the middle and working classes. Tyranny of the oligarchy.
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This is the face of the man that would sell you out to the media conglomerates and cares more about profits than the liberties of americans.
i could imagine [B]massive[/B] backlash and protests against this if the plan is successfully enforced
Suppose I can look forward to more IT company jobs moving to Europe, at least.
Great. Not like I didn't rely on doing classes online for my education.
[QUOTE=Trixil;52912680]i could imagine [B]massive[/B] backlash and protests against this if the plan is successfully enforced[/QUOTE]
Where? They won't be able to organize on the internet.
I bet the first thing major ISP's do once this is gone is lock down conversation around the topic of Net Neutrality and just ban that from their web services. Want to go to a page with that on it? can't.
RIP facepunch
I can't even bring myself to be upset. The American people did this to themselves.
My prediction:
When net neutrality dies, at first, [I]nothing will happen.[/I] Everything will continue exactly how it has been, for a while. The shills will go, "That outcry sure was stupid, wasn't it? A whole bunch of basement-dwelling dummies cried for months about nothing! You can ignore and forget about them now. ISPs are your friend."
[I]Then[/I] they start fucking everything up under the guise of Enhancing The Experience.
"If you don't realize the importance of net neutrality, imagine if EA was your internet service provider"
Fuck these money hungry cunts.
The Legion of Doom that currently is our government.
It's not even surprising at this point, just straight up sad.
Buckle up boys, lets hope the courts actually do something.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52912779]Lootboxed websites, can you even fucking imagine?[/QUOTE]
I can only hope it won't go that far, but this comes close:
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I predict that if this goes through the rest of the media will be threatened. There's already an attack from Trump and Co (and to a much milder extent, older US admins) on the free media in the United States, if this passes those attacks will get more and more pointed - especially as media reaches a monopoly point in the States.
I hope I'm being pessimistic - but I think it will happen.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34JrmhKxuQ[/media]
Fare fucking well.
Maybe this will force Google to restart its massive fibre push, which may be the only good thing to come out of this. Competition is the way to save this whole thing if this passes.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;52912784]I can only hope it won't go that far, but this comes close:
[IMG]https://i.redditmedia.com/vP_rzgIIcdZ-n62I_bvLy8ibhVMzGZmCwKBwayA9KYs.jpg?w=818&[/IMG][img]https://i.imgur.com/uY3VtmD.png[/img][/QUOTE]That picture is actually for mobile phone internet in Portugal, it's a list of packages of things that won't count towards the data limit. It's got absolutely nothing to do with paying for actually getting access to those sites and services.
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[QUOTE=Boilrig;52912810]Maybe this will force Google to restart its massive fibre push, which may be the only good thing to come out of this. Competition is the way to save this whole thing if this passes.[/QUOTE]Didn't that get shat all over by local governments in the pockets of ISPs? Doesn't seem like they can escape that problem any more now than they could previously.
Stop voting for Republicans.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;52912822]That picture is actually for mobile phone internet in Portugal, it's a list of packages of things that won't count towards the data limit. It's got absolutely nothing to do with paying for actually getting access to those sites and services.
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Didn't that get shat all over by local governments in the pockets of ISPs? Doesn't seem like they can escape that problem any more now than they could previously.[/QUOTE]
It's still the same basic concept though.
1. Impose strict data limits for all traffic
2. Make deals with established companies to get included in package (optional, but extra $$$)
3. Use the leverage from data limits to get people to buy packages
4. Profit
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Didn't that get shat all over by local governments in the pockets of ISPs? Doesn't seem like they can escape that problem any more now than they could previously.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, they got slammed by the other ISPs on the phone poles rolling out fibre among other issues like people not signing up. One of the solutions for google may be to push even harder than before or it may hurt them in the long run, I'm sure right now they are considering putting resources back in if the FCC vote goes through.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;52912822]That picture is actually for mobile phone internet in Portugal, it's a list of packages of things that won't count towards the data limit. It's got absolutely nothing to do with paying for actually getting access to those sites and services.
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Point still applies.
I am curious at what point people finally get fed up and revolt? Or maybe us Americans are doomed to bend over and accept it all.
[QUOTE=Judas;52912660]Keep fighting it, nonstop, even if they repeal fight tooth-and-nail to get it back in 2018 and 2020[/QUOTE]
Unless we come up with a few hundred million dollars to bribe them, we cannot stop this. Politics runs entirely on bribes these days. Your words are meaningless to them.
I wonder if that Supreme Court ruling Packingham v North Carolina would be viewed as having any relevance to this, since it says governments can't block access to internet I wonder if that's viewed legally as any similar to corporations blocking internet. I might be wrong.
No reason for this other than more MONEY, MONEY MONEY MONEY, give us MOOOORE MONEY. Our pockets are already lined with gold, now we need diamonds and platinum. I hate republicans, nothing they do is for anyones benefit but their own.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;52912878]I wonder if that Supreme Court ruling Packingham v North Carolina would be viewed as having any relevance to this, since it says governments can't block access to internet I wonder if that's viewed legally as any similar to corporations blocking internet. I might be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Even if it doesn't, you can bet that there will be scores of new lawsuits against the FCC. The real battle is going to be in the courts, as per usual.
i'm glad to see there's a big backlash against this. other stuff trump's administration has tried to do seemed undefeatable and hopeless until it collapsed in on itself. keep fighting
Greedy fucks. I wonder if people will come up with workarounds for this.
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