• Philippines police seek 'men of burning desire' for less bloody drugs operation
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[QUOTE][B]The Philippines police chief announced the re-launch on Monday of police anti-narcotics operations he hoped would be less bloody, "or even bloodless", entering a new phase in a war on drugs that has caused international alarm.[/B] Addressing hundreds of officers, Philippine National Police (PNP) Chief Ronald dela Rosa said the PNP was reforming and called on "men of burning desire" to join a new task force, the Philippine Drugs Enforcement Group.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-drugs-police-idUSKBN16D05N?il=0[/URL]
Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] The only possible reason I can imagine anyone would condone his administration was if the courts and law enforcement were so hopelessly corrupt that they were in the cartel's pockets and completely ineffective.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51919771]The only possible reason I can imagine anyone would condone his administration was if the courts and law enforcement were so hopelessly corrupt that they were in the cartel's pockets and completely ineffective.[/QUOTE] propaganda
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51919782]propaganda[/QUOTE] He's talking about Americans who are originally from the Philippines. Americans are less susceptible to Filipino propaganda. Makes me wonder how bad things have to be back home for people to get behind a madman like Duterte.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] To be fair, you should see the amount of Americans defending [I]their[/I] president.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;51919797]To be fair, you should hear see the amount of Americans defending [I]their[/I] president.[/QUOTE] I'm fully aboard the Trump hate train but he's not condoning genocide
[QUOTE=Hilton;51919804]I'm fully aboard the Trump hate train but he's not condoning genocide[/QUOTE] He means that they're both mentally unstable demagogues playing at being strongmen.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] With nine different Chinese drug cartels circulating drugs inside of the country and the highest abuse rate of Meth in East Asia it's no wonder people are supportive of Duterte. [editline]6th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Hilton;51919804]I'm fully aboard the Trump hate train but he's not condoning genocide[/QUOTE] Neither is Duterte. That's not what Genocide is, unless drug pushers are an ethnicity I was not aware of.
Meanwhile, politicians are trying to get the death penalty bill approved, but only for drug-related crimes (removing rape, plunder, and treason from the list) :downs:
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] I work with a few Filipino immigrants and they are all against him. One of them even had his daughter killed as a result of Duterte
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] Western media can exaggerate at times but I actually haven't came across a misreport from them. As a native Filipino who both reads local and international news, the main gist of the reports such as what Duterte said in his campaign promises, speeches, anecdotes and experiences he had were all true and within the right context. Only differences were varying degrees on word usage that either made things sound worse or better than they are. There's actually a particular divide between Duterte supporters and non supporters, it's just that most non-supporters get drowned out due to the strong power of social media here blocking everyone else out. A large portion of the country after all voted in a vice-president that was the complete opposite of Duterte, and was on a hairline against the son of a dictator for the candidacy. Non-supporters usually just voice out their disapproval of Duterte online, on which they get drowned out by said supporters. Other non-supporters stay silent because they technically want Duterte for his non-establishment appeal and willingness to fight back against the strong influence of the Catholic Church and established political dynasties, but are vehemently against about pretty much everything else including the hard line approach on criminals. The Philippines in general also has a history of people just following the general trend or popular thing even without context. This is the same country that suffered 30+ years of a dictatorship with President Marcos, whom enforced martial law. And that's during those days and even down to today, a lot of people are even still in full support of Marcos, despite the piling evidence that he tortured thousands of people, silenced journalists forcefully, and actually stole a significant amount of money from the country. His wife whom is known to be responsible for a lot of things as well, including the death of hundreds of workers on building a film center, with Marcos intentionally cutting corners on budgets, resulting in the deaths. It was even intentionally covered up where not even paramedics were permitted to get onto the site until private security cleaned things up. Today Marcos's wife is celebrated as some sort of rich celebrity figure, and one of his sons almost won another major political position as vice-president. I mean the people who loves Duterte aren't entirely unjustified no. Most of them are probably glad of him scaring criminals and actually made them feel safer, and a lot of them are indeed aware of the consequences but grew to accept it due to so many neglected problems previous administrations didn't address. But there's a lot of crab and herd mentality here in general, which is why you'd probably hear more are in support of Duterte, and non-supporters staying silent since they usually get ganged up or drowned out here. All of this actually gives out a scary combination that really gives Duterte a lot of power and a lack of conflict against other people since very few are willing to let themselves be heard.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51919811]He means that they're both mentally unstable demagogues playing at being strongmen.[/QUOTE] Mainly I mean there is pretty much nothing a Government can't do that a large portion of the population won't go, "It's about time somebody did something about those x"
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] I only know one guy from the philipians but he would love to get out of there as soon as he can, its not a great place at all in his opinion.
[QUOTE=Hilton;51919804]I'm fully aboard the Trump hate train but he's not condoning genocide[/QUOTE] Not genocide, just war crimes.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51919838] Neither is Duterte. That's not what Genocide is, unless drug pushers are an ethnicity I was not aware of.[/QUOTE] Depends on the definition. It can also be "to systemically try to eliminate a distinct group of people". Religion and sexuality can for example be subjects to genocide.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51919838] Neither is Duterte. That's not what Genocide is, unless drug pushers are an ethnicity I was not aware of.[/QUOTE] We can call it mass murder, or mass execution if you'll decide to hide behind the definition of murder. Not to mention the flagrant disregard for ideals of justice like innocent before proven guilty, trial before a court of law, and so on and so forth. Though I guess you could say they are getting a pretty speedy trial.
[QUOTE=sgman91;51919739]Every single person I've met from the Philippians (They almost all have family living there) love Duterte and say that the Western media has totally misreported the situation over there.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but they also said that his methode are very cruel indeed. But in their eyes the only way fix their problems. [editline]7th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;51919936]I know someone else who'd like to GTFO the Philippines and have not only a decent wage but a decent lifestyle and actually feel safe in a country where you are not killed for being a drug addict but instead rehabilitated and given a chance to have a life instead of being addicted to the white stuff. Whilst on topic thank fuck the police chief is supporting a BLOODLESS campaign on drug wars which in return I hope this means that people will get put through rehab(users) and drug dealers actual jail time rather than in their own coffin.[/QUOTE] Most addicts are getting rehab, a lot of them at home because the centers are full. The number that has been murdered is actually very small. (6000). Durtere is not so bad for the country I think. Most locals seem to think the same thing. Western media just wants sensation.
[QUOTE=taipan;51926708]Yeah, but they also said that his methode are very cruel indeed. But in their eyes the only way fix their problems. [editline]7th March 2017[/editline] Most addicts are getting rehab, a lot of them at home because the centers are full. The number that has been murdered is actually very small. (6000). Durtere is not so bad for the country I think. Most locals seem to think the same thing. Western media just wants sensation.[/QUOTE] 6,000 state-sanctioned murders. A small number.
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