• CNN: "Revenge Porn websites should be illegal. Here is a link to one."
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[quote]"Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust. On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/29/opinion/citron-revenge-porn/index.html?hpt=hp_t4[/url]
Good job, CNN
revenge porn sites should be illegal imo it's a scummy thing to do e: woops didnt mean to rate myself
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42009691]revenge porn sites should be illegal imo it's a scummy thing to do[/QUOTE] That would be one less thing I could fap to. Therefore, I disagree. EDIT: On a more serious note, don't let someone take naked pictures of you.
I always thought those were fake, what kind of asshole does this?
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42009691]revenge porn sites should be illegal imo it's a scummy thing to do[/QUOTE] The one they are talking about also posts names/contact info of people, links to their Twitter, Facebook etc. Such an asshole thing to do...
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42009691]revenge porn sites should be illegal imo it's a scummy thing to do[/QUOTE] How would you enforce it? Who uploaded the photo or the site itself?
snapchat, problem solved j/k
The site they refer to is pretty hilarious/disgusting. It's pretty disgusting because you can often find people you know, but pretty hilarious because you can often find people you know.
[QUOTE=bord2tears;42009728]How would you enforce it? Who uploaded the photo or the site itself?[/QUOTE] The [I]page[/I] should be illegal and held responsible if they fail to take the uploaded personal information down. It's not a guy making a webpage and uploading pics of his ex there. It's a server that invites you to do that. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.
[QUOTE=Cushie;42009725]The one they are talking about also posts names/contact info of people, links to their Twitter, Facebook etc. Such an asshole thing to do...[/QUOTE] It shouldn't be okay even if there aren't any contact info.
And on this day, thousands discovered a new fetish.
[QUOTE=bord2tears;42009728]How would you enforce it? Who uploaded the photo or the site itself?[/QUOTE] i guess the same way they enforce the whole no child porn thing i soubt theres anyway to perfectly enforce it all the time but i also doubt theres as big a 'market' for revenge porn as there is for cp. i would assume kind of enforcment would severely cut down on it tho theres nothing wrong with taking photos of yer naked body to give somebody if the understanding im doing so it was going to remain private. if somebody violates that trust and implicit agreement and ven goes so far as to post private info there should definitely be some kind of punishment involved
[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;42009717]EDIT: On a more serious note, don't let someone take naked pictures of you.[/QUOTE] yeah because she's totally responsible for her ex turning out to be a disgusting human being
I don't think this should be illegal at all. I'm not going to outright defend the website, because if naked pictures of my large, sweaty, hairy body were uploaded to a website without my permission then I'd be sort of mad myself. However, if you trust someone to take picture of you naked, or you send naked pictures of yourself to someone, then you deserve the consequences of it if you break up with them. Simple solution? Don't let anyone take naked pictures of you, and don't send naked pictures of yourself to anyone, unless you're A-OK with it ending up on the internet, forever. It's your own fault if indecent pictures of yourself end up on some Revenge Porn website, because either you took the pictures and sent them to someone or you let someone else take the pictures.
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42009851]i guess the same way they enforce the whole no child porn thing i soubt theres anyway to perfectly enforce it all the time but i also doubt theres as big a 'market' for revenge porn as there is for cp. i would assume kind of enforcment would severely cut down on it tho theres nothing wrong with taking photos of yer naked body to give somebody if the understanding im doing so it was going to remain private. if somebody violates that trust and implicit agreement and ven goes so far as to post private info there should definitely be some kind of punishment involved[/QUOTE] There is a rather big difference when enforcing this. Child pornography is more quantifiable and definite , but I am willing to wager that revenge porn is more contextual. The above case where the person lists contact info is simple, but what about when you are dealing with 3 uploads of the same video with differing titles? If you have 3 videos with titles like, "Brunette babe bangs", "GF having fun", "Fun with bitch ex last year", then you are going to have serious trouble determining the context of the matter.
[QUOTE=Quark:;42009963]However, if you trust someone to take picture of you naked, or you send naked pictures of yourself to someone, then you deserve the consequences of it if you break up with them.[/QUOTE] Why would you deserve it for people to break your trust, an agreement? [QUOTE]Simple solution? Don't let anyone take naked pictures of you, and don't send naked pictures of yourself to anyone, unless you're A-OK with it ending up on the internet, forever. It's your own fault if indecent pictures of yourself end up on some Revenge Porn website, because either you took the pictures and sent them to someone or you let someone else take the pictures.[/QUOTE] Do you tell gay people (in relevant countries), "don't come out or fall in love/have sex unless you're okay with being bullied and/or legally punished"? They can prevent that from happening by suppressing their sexuality, of course, but they shouldn't have to.
[QUOTE=Thlis;42010003]There is a rather big difference when enforcing this. Child pornography is more quantifiable and definite , but I am willing to wager that revenge porn is more contextual. The above case where the person lists contact info is simple, but what about when you are dealing with 3 uploads of the same video with differing titles? If you have 3 videos with titles like, "Brunette babe bangs", "GF having fun", "Fun with bitch ex last year", then you are going to have serious trouble determining the context of the matter.[/QUOTE] id imagine child porn vids get named different totles as well
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42010090]id imagine child porn vids get named different totles as well[/QUOTE] The difference is that child pornography can be recognized by content, revenge porn cant. That's why if a video is reuploaded multiple times with different names, it is harder to determine whether or not it is revenge porn.
[QUOTE=Quark:;42009963]I don't think this should be illegal at all. I'm not going to outright defend the website, because if naked pictures of my large, sweaty, hairy body were uploaded to a website without my permission then I'd be sort of mad myself. However, if you trust someone to take picture of you naked, or you send naked pictures of yourself to someone, then you deserve the consequences of it if you break up with them. Simple solution? Don't let anyone take naked pictures of you, and don't send naked pictures of yourself to anyone, unless you're A-OK with it ending up on the internet, forever. It's your own fault if indecent pictures of yourself end up on some Revenge Porn website, because either you took the pictures and sent them to someone or you let someone else take the pictures.[/QUOTE] Why do I have the creeping suspicion you never really were in any relationship?
thats a fair point and once the vids/pics leave the revenge porn site i guess theres really no way of knowing, but the bigggest issues is the personal info of the person being posted as well as the revenge porn sites inviting people to post these pics/vids in the first place and allowing it to be hosted
It doesn't matter if it's illegal or not; it will still happen either way. Piracy is illegal and you can still find such things very easily. The only message this will send is that laws are easily broken and shouldn't be taken seriously.When you pass a laws that cannot be enforced you devalue you the concept of legislation.
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;42009938]yeah because she's totally responsible for her ex turning out to be a disgusting human being[/QUOTE] No, she is not responsible for her ex turning out to be a disgusting human being, but she is responsible for giving him the ammo.
[QUOTE=Aidan_088;42010226]It doesn't matter if it's illegal or not; it will still happen either way. Piracy is illegal and you can still find such things very easily. The only message this will send is that laws are easily broken and shouldn't be taken seriously.When you pass a laws that cannot be enforced you devalue you the concept of legislation.[/QUOTE] yeah man why even bother trying to fix it [editline]29th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Foster;42010237]No, she is not responsible for her ex turning out to be a disgusting human being, but she is responsible for giving him the ammo.[/QUOTE] as if that really has anything to do with this. it doesnt matter if she tooks the pics or not. her privacy and trust were still violated because of somebody else's actions
Oh yea, went to that website on my lunch break. Clicked Louisiana, second set of pictures was a girl I knew. Lol
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42010264]yeah man why even bother trying to fix it [/QUOTE] It won't fix it though. Proposing an obviously unworkable solution will just make things worse. If "revenge porn" sites are banned, they won't just disappear; they'll just re-brand themselves, the same content will be posted but the site will obfuscate the theme, making it impossible to ban without banning all amateur pornography. All that will be achieved is the devaluation of law. Banning the pirate bay didn't stop piracy, banning a few revenge porn sites won't stop revenge porn.
[QUOTE=Beelzebub;42010264]as if that really has anything to do with this. it doesnt matter if she tooks the pics or not. her privacy and trust were still violated because of somebody else's actions[/QUOTE] Sorry, doesn't really matter what your opinion on the matter is. My opinion is, letting someone else take naked pictures of you is just stupid, and sending naked pictures out to someone is equally as stupid, especially if you don't want them seen. Doesn't matter how trusting someone is, they will not be the only one to see it. If you want someone to see you naked, do it in person and in privacy.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;42010139]Why do I have the creeping suspicion you never really were in any relationship?[/QUOTE] As if that has anything to do with the discussion at hand. [QUOTE=Quark:;42009963]I don't think this should be illegal at all. I'm not going to outright defend the website, because if naked pictures of my large, sweaty, hairy body were uploaded to a website without my permission then I'd be sort of mad myself. However, if you trust someone to take picture of you naked, or you send naked pictures of yourself to someone, then you deserve the consequences of it if you break up with them. Simple solution? Don't let anyone take naked pictures of you, and don't send naked pictures of yourself to anyone, unless you're A-OK with it ending up on the internet, forever. It's your own fault if indecent pictures of yourself end up on some Revenge Porn website, because either you took the pictures and sent them to someone or you let someone else take the pictures.[/QUOTE] This chain of logic is similar to blaming a female rape victim because she was "dressed provocatively". It doesn't matter what the victim was wearing, or if the person trusted their boyfriend to keep the photos to himself when she sent them to him. The fact of the matter is the ex could have chosen to not put the pictures online (and I'm not even mentioning the [I]personal contact information[/I] he uploaded) but he went out of his way and did it out of spite, and violated her trust by doing so.
[QUOTE=kidwithsword;42010418]As if that has anything to do with the discussion at hand. [/QUOTE] It sorta does because "just don't trust your partner" is advice only somebody who has never been in a real relationship can say.
Isn't sharing someone's personal info (home address, email...) publicly without their consent already illegal? Or am I just dreaming
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