• UK - Nintendo DS homebrew carts banned
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[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10790835]Source[/url] [quote=BBC news]A High Court has ruled that devices that allow gamers to play pirated video games are illegal in the UK. The ruling specifically targets a range of popular devices which can be used to store and play copied games on the Nintedo DS handheld console. The ruling says "game copiers" are illegal to import, advertise and sell in the UK. The defendants - Playables Limited and Wai Dat Chan - had argued that they allow gamers to play home-made games. [B]"The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence," read the ruling by Justice Floyd.[/B] "The court affirmed that game copiers first circumvent Nintendo's security systems before any non-infringing application can be played on Nintendo's handheld products," it said in a statement. Playables Limited and Mr Chan did not respond to requests for comment. This UK judgment follows a similar ruling in the Netherlands earlier in July. "The economic effect on Nintendo of the trade in these devices is substantial as each accused device can store and play copies of many Nintendo DS games” - Justice Floyd The Hague District Court ruled that 11 Dutch online retailers acted unlawfully by importing and selling game copiers for use with Nintendo DS and modification chips for use with Wii. Game copiers are designed to fit into the game cartridge of Nintendo's DS. Games can then be loaded from memory cards. The chips circumvent the protection measures Nintendo has built into its DS consoles, enabling illegally pirated games to be downloaded online and stored on a chip. Other gamers use them to store and load homemade games or, as they can hold multiple games, to store their entire collection of titles in a portable format. They are sold for as little as £10. The ruling said that the defendants had imported nine different devices on a "large scale". "HMRC and Trading Standards have seized more than 165,000 game copiers intended for the defendants," it read. "The economic effect on Nintendo of the trade in these devices is substantial as each accused device can store and play copies of many Nintendo DS games."[/quote] [img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:o7VAGbRyzBeayM:http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll171/the-dslite/2008/20080401/r4ds.jpg&t=1[/img] I can understand the anti-piracy fact, but if no copyright is infringed should bypassing security on a device you own really be deemed illegal? I have media players and an IRC client installed on mine but because they bypass DS security it's illegal.
i wonder how much money under the table was laid to get this through. :tinfoil:
Its a company product, if you dont like what they are doing, dont buy their products.
Bullshit. It's not even an emulator, it's basically a system to load third-party applications on it, including emulators.
I have two, an Acekard2i and a R4i. People break laws everyday, some are even by accident trying to enforce this law would be very stupid.
Companies don't like losing money, I'm sure if you were running the company you would be doing the same thing.
Well, 1 court ruling won't stop people from ordering online.
Just waiting someone to say that he/somebody is going to use the device completely legally just to play on some backups
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I bought one a long time ago and my only intent was homebrew games.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;23714038]I got one for Christmas last year and I just put all my games on it so I don't have to switch around my games all the time. No ROMs on it at all.[/QUOTE] with what then, superglue?
alot of times homebrew is better than 70% of the shit that is released mainstream . IMO homebrew adds to the sales of the console
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;23711308]Companies don't like losing money, I'm sure if you were running the company you would be doing the same thing.[/QUOTE] 20-30 bucks every pirated game...That must be a real dent to the millions Nintendo has.
[QUOTE=MRTW113;23713610]Well, 1 court ruling won't stop people from ordering online.[/QUOTE] It also bans import, meaning it would be illegal for it enter the country and would be seized at customs. Of course, banning imports always works and is totally flawless, which is why Australia and Germany haven't played a violent video game for years. :rolleyes:
[quote]"The mere fact that the device can be used for a non-infringing purpose is not a defence," read the ruling by Justice Floyd.[/quote] Well my computer can be used for non infringing purposes too. That doesn't stop people from using computers to download torrents of everything from movies to software. Computers haven't been banned yet. Seriously getting sick of this copyright bullshit. Like the device significantly hurt nintendo's profits. I'll bet that nine out of ten people don't even know it exists. Of course if it became more widespread then it could become a problem. I wouldn't pirate games, but I would love to have my entire collection on one cart, the things are a bitch to carry around. Still legal in the US i guess.
Luckily I live in 'merica land of the [b]FREE[/b]
Just ordered one of these last week. (US)
We'll if you're gonna go that far why don't you just ban every fucking smart device on the planet? No one except for Sweden has a realistic sense of technology, I say if you can't take the heat don't stay in the kitchen
[QUOTE=BAZ;23708899]I can understand the anti-piracy fact, but if no copyright is infringed should bypassing security on a device you own really be deemed illegal? I have media players and an IRC client installed on mine but because they bypass DS security it's illegal.[/QUOTE] 99% of the time they are used to pirate games. I'm the only person that uses their Flash Cart for homebrew/media player. Everyone I've seen uses it solely for pirating games.
I thought these were banned in the UK along with a few other European nations at least a year ago?
[QUOTE=ColdWave;23716168]20-30 bucks every pirated game...That must be a real dent to the millions Nintendo has.[/QUOTE] Piracy is still piracy. Here are the stats of the top downloaded Roms: [img]http://imgkk.com/i/rgeg.jpg[/img] So as you can see, if each copy was worth $20, that's quite a lot of money.
DS has some fantastic homebrew games, including a smash brothers one.
Except it's not even finished, and the demo was meh. [editline]08:51AM[/editline] Still Alive DS was pretty good though, and I know a couple of guys that are working on a Halo homebrew game for DS. [editline]08:58AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Yahnich;23714038]I got one for Christmas last year and [b]I just put all my games on it[/b] so I don't have to switch around my games all the time. [b]No ROMs on it at all.[/b][/QUOTE] :raise:
[QUOTE=ashxu;23724805]Piracy is still piracy. Here are the stats of the top downloaded Roms: [IMG]http://imgkk.com/i/rgeg.jpg[/IMG] So as you can see, if each copy was worth $20, that's quite a lot of money.[/QUOTE] Source of image?
I can't post it. Because it would be considered warez.
wikipedia probably
[QUOTE=ashxu;23724805]Piracy is still piracy. Here are the stats of the top downloaded Roms: [img]http://imgkk.com/i/rgeg.jpg[/img] So as you can see, if each copy was worth $20, that's quite a lot of money.[/QUOTE] this assumes that each person downloading it would go out and buy it if they didn't have the ability to pirate it which simply wouldn't happen hope this helps!
Good thing I'm not in the UK, I love my acekard2
[QUOTE=Sir M;23725634]wikipedia probably[/QUOTE] nope.
But the majority of DS users are people that would not have a clue how torrents work.
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