In the Province I live a video game consoles are defined as gambling machines under the liquor laws which havnt really been updated since the 1930s.
[QUOTE]"This is the Wild West of online gambling that is actually targeting kids," [/QUOTE]
Is it still the 90s in Australia?
I find it a bit funny that CS:GO is targeted specifically, thought its most likely due to the whole skin gambling site thing, yet F2P MMORPGS with cash shop lottery box/sack/etc items are and apparently have been A-OK.
[QUOTE=SteakStyles;50809149]I find it a bit funny that CS:GO is targeted specifically, thought its most likely due to the whole skin gambling site thing, yet F2P MMORPGS with cash shop lottery box/sack/etc items are and apparently have been A-OK.[/QUOTE]
I think the target is games that have a betting system on esports, like CS:GO or dota or whatever because thats actually gambling - don't think they're talking about skin gambling here. F2P MMOs don't count because they're not gambling technically its just purchasing virtual shit
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;50809119]Is it still the 90s in Australia?[/QUOTE]
Sadly, it does feel this way sometimes.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;50809188]I think the target is games that have a betting system on esports, like CS:GO or dota or whatever because thats actually gambling - don't think they're talking about skin gambling here.[/QUOTE]
Those are the same thing though? I'm not betting $5 in real money on a CSGO match, I'm betting a shitty AK47 skin or something.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;50809188]F2P MMOs don't count because they're not gambling technically its just purchasing virtual shit[/QUOTE]
But you're spending money on the chance that you get a certain item. That's gambling, the difference is that in that case you've got a set buy-in and your options for what you get from winning are limited to what's in the crate series + whatever unusual/legendary/rare items they might generate.
Like, both of these are unregulated gambling, but only one of them has caused a controversy because nobody's taken legal action about losing thousands of dollars on spending money on keys.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;50809119]Is it still the 90s in Australia?[/QUOTE]
Yes. Please save us, it's been nothing but CheezTV and Fresh Prince reruns.
[QUOTE=gk99;50809268]Those are the same thing though? I'm not betting $5 in real money on a CSGO match, I'm betting a shitty AK47 skin or something.
But you're spending money on the chance that you get a certain item. That's gambling, the difference is that in that case you've got a set buy-in and your options for what you get from winning are limited to what's in the crate series + whatever unusual/legendary/rare items they might generate.
Like, both of these are unregulated gambling, but only one of them has caused a controversy because nobody's taken legal action about losing thousands of dollars on spending money on keys.[/QUOTE]
Well maybe you're not, but esports does have a gambling scene with real money involved. Maybe its a good idea to have that covered. Skin trading is stupid though
just saying is all - betting money on the outcome of games for financial reward does exist and is only going to grow so in my mind for those situations it makes sense to cover them under existing gambling laws because that's exactly what it is.
but for weapon skin gambling I dont see how that makes sense so I agree with you there
Well I'd just like to point out that this type of skin gambling has been eradicated by Valve already. They will probably start fighting against it for those who are making workarounds from the Valve API as well. So yeah, these laws are a little too late which is the usual for lawmakers in this field.
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