• $700~800 gaming build needing feedback/changes
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In the US. Do [B]not[/B] need: monitor, mouse and keyboard, DVD drive, OS, and case. Here's what I put together. I tried following JohnEdward's advice and browsed through the combo section to find some deals. Hard drive - [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152100[/url] Power Supply - [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011[/url] Graphics card [U]AND[/U] RAM combo - [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.300041[/url] CPU [U]AND[/U] Motherboard combo - [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.303854[/url] Might be looking into Crossfire later on down the road. A motherboard that supports this feature would be a plus. The PCI-E slots in the motherboard above are very close together. I can't really tell if that's going to be a problem for Crossfire. I do not see myself needing DX11 from a 5xxx series. Not many games support it yet, and if I were to have one with this budgeted build, the DX11 wouldn't do any good with a cheap, lower performance card. I'm thinking the power supply may be overkill. I would assume having a high end CPU and GPU would ask for a good bit of power.
Much better PSU: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038[/url] Scrap that CPU/Mobo combo; [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131604[/url] Better HDD: [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284[/url]
I agree^
PC cooling and power is definitely one of the best PSUs out there. Their prices do reflect their quality. Cooler Master PSUs are rebrands. I would recommend a OCZ. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016[/url] A Gigabyte board. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412[/url] Gigabyte > ASUS. IT also comes with SATA 3 and USB 3 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128400[/url] This board for crossfire. I have it. It is good. You can spring for a cheaper 16x/4x. It'll work for crossfire, but it might be a bottleneck [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283[/url] A WD 750 HD [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277[/url] Better RAM
[QUOTE=FHamster;18907772][b]PC cooling and power is definitely one of the best PSUs out there. Their prices do reflect their quality. Cooler Master PSUs are rebrands. [/b] I would recommend a OCZ. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016[/url] A Gigabyte board. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412[/url] Gigabyte > ASUS. IT also comes with SATA 3 and USB 3 [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128400[/url] This board for crossfire. I have it. It is good. You can spring for a cheaper 16x/4x. It'll work for crossfire, but it might be a bottleneck [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136283[/url] A WD 750 HD [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277[/url] Better RAM[/QUOTE] I'll take your word on PC power and cooling. But you obviously have never owned a Cooler Master. You can't take a renowned brand like Cooler Master and toss it around like that. It's a stupid thing to do. OP, you don't need a 700W PSU being that you can run nearly any build off a 550W PSU, I think maybe even a 500W. Go with the Cooler Master PSU that Adzicents posted.
hold on [editline]11:27AM[/editline] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102857[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038[/url] [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.308218[/url] 813 but IMO worth it
[QUOTE=ghostofme;18912994]I'll take your word on PC power and cooling. But you obviously have never owned a Cooler Master. You can't take a renowned brand like Cooler Master and toss it around like that. It's a stupid thing to do. OP, you don't need a 700W PSU being that you can run nearly any build off a 550W PSU, I think maybe even a 500W. Go with the Cooler Master PSU that Adzicents posted.[/QUOTE] Cooler master extremes are the worst cooler master PSUs. They produce way below their rated power.
[QUOTE=FHamster;18920325]Cooler master extremes are the worst cooler master PSUs. They produce way below their rated power.[/QUOTE] I've made two builds with Cooler Master extremes, and both put out the wattage they're supposed to. How many Cooler Master PSUs have you worked with? And be honest.
[QUOTE=FHamster;18920325]Cooler master extremes are the worst cooler master PSUs. They produce way below their rated power.[/QUOTE] Really? I ran a 5870 off of the 500w Coolermaster Extreme. [editline]09:15PM[/editline] This one to be exact. [url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031&Tpk=coolermaster%20500[/url] [editline]09:22PM[/editline] I can also say I own two of them and they both work perfectly fine.
No, I don't use CoolerMaster PSUs because I do research before I buy PSUs. Take this review for example. [url]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/728[/url] The first page talks all about Cooler master's trickery. And the extremes are rebrands of acbells.
[QUOTE=FHamster;18921674]No, I don't use CoolerMaster PSUs because I do research before I buy PSUs. Take this review for example. [url]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/728[/url] The first page talks all about Cooler master's trickery. And the extremes are rebrands of acbells.[/QUOTE] Haha way to be a sucker for an article. Read around. It's the whole point of researching. Don't just look at one article and take their word for it. Anybody could've written that you know?
[QUOTE=FHamster;18921674]No, I don't use CoolerMaster PSUs because I do research before I buy PSUs. Take this review for example. [url]http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/728[/url] The first page talks all about Cooler master's trickery. And the extremes are rebrands of acbells.[/QUOTE] Cool, a single site that I never heard of is bashing Coolermaster. Do you have any other proof of this "trickery", because I own two of the power supplies mentioned in that "review" and they work perfectly fine and are able to support the wattage they say they can.
Well, I can't find many other articles on Cooler Master PSUs because peopel rarely review PSUs and because the Cooler Master are not know for making good PSUs ( they don't even manufacture them). The first page of the review explains the trickery well enough. It is only rated at 450 Max. Furthermore, the author is not just anyone. The site hosts it's own hardware reviews, numbering hundreds of separate articles. The review itself has 10 pages, well pictures. There was effort put into testing and analyzing the PSU. This is more credible than reviews such as on Newegg written by people who have not tested the PSU to the extent this author did.
If you can only come up with a single source there really isn't anything against them. The author could be biased.
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;18929455]If you can only come up with a single source there really isn't anything against them. The author could be biased.[/QUOTE] While that is true, the trickery is based on what is printed on the PSU itself.
The psu he received could have been defective, he could have messed up the test, etc. There's numerous factors that could have thrown the test off, if you can't come up with another review that confirms his results then the review is useless.
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;18929614]The psu he received could have been defective, he could have messed up the test, etc. There's numerous factors that could have thrown the test off, if you can't come up with another review that confirms his results then the review is useless.[/QUOTE] There are no other reviews of the PSU. Even if the tests are off, and he did recieve a lemon, that doesn't change how Cooler master used a deceptive name that was an overrated max power rating.
[QUOTE=FHamster;18929818]There are no other reviews of the PSU. Even if the tests are off, and he did recieve a lemon, that doesn't change how Cooler master used a deceptive name that was an overrated max power rating.[/QUOTE] Yes it does?
[quote]"First, the fact there is no reference for “500 W” on the power supply. If you pay close attention to the label (Figures 1 and 13) you will see that the number “500” printed on the upper right corner doesn’t have the letter “W” after it. This is usually a trick done by manufacturers to protect themselves against potential lawsuits (e.g. “we didn’t say this was a 500 W power supply; 500 is the model number”; a good example is the AcBel iPower 660 power supply we reviewed, which isn’t a 660 W model – hey, wait a minute... eXtreme Power Plus 500 W is also manufactured by AcBel... Hum...)[/quote] [quote] The second thing that we noticed on the label was the phrase “The +3.3 V & + 5 V & +12V1 & +12V2 combine power shall not exceed 431.5 W”. What? If you add this to the maximum power for -12 V and +5VSB we have a total of 450 W! So despite the product name, the label states in a format hard to be understood by the average user that this is in fact a 450 W power supply. [/quote] this
The manufacturer lists it as a 500w power supply.
[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;18929984]The manufacturer lists it as a 500w power supply.[/QUOTE] Cooler Master isn't the manufacturer
Then Cooler Master lists it as a 500w power supply.
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