• Shooting reported at Purdue University, IN. One injured, suspect in custody.
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[QUOTE]WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. (AP) — Police have a person in custody following a reported shooting at Purdue University in Indiana. A Twitter post from the university says the shooting happened Tuesday at the electrical engineering building on the school's campus in West Lafayette, about 60 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Further posts say police have a person in custody, though no details have been released. The university says it told people to take shelter and has cleared the building.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/21/purdue-university-shooting_n_4638264.html[/url]
is this the new american past time?
[QUOTE=SexualShark;43620653]is this the new american past time?[/QUOTE] No. And the chances of it happening to your school is highly unlikely. Everyone thinks that this shit happens all the time, but it doesnt. [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd-4WllIMAA3frt.jpg[/t] As soon as it stops becoming headlining news, then its become a passtime. This is hardly normal.
One person got shot and the attacker didn't finish himself off before the cops got him, seems more like a single attack for whatever reason and not a full out insanity-fueled school shooting.
Gotta love Huffpo Really diggin that "PEOPLE WHO WANT MORE GUNS IN SCHOOL" section, trying to demonize people for no god damned reason.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43620758]Gotta love Huffpo Really diggin that "PEOPLE WHO WANT MORE GUNS IN SCHOOL" section, trying to demonize people for no god damned reason.[/QUOTE] [quote=Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)]"I wish to God she had had an m-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out ... and takes him out and takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids," Gohmert said of slain principal Dawn Hochsprung on Fox News Sunday. He argued that shooters often choose schools because they know people will be unarmed.[/quote] [quote=Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R)]"If people were armed, not just a police officer, but other school officials that were trained and chose to have a weapon, certainly there would be an opportunity to stop an individual trying to get into the school," he told WTOP's "Ask the Governor" show Tuesday, warning that Washington may respond to such a policy with a "knee-jerk reaction."[/quote] [quote=Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) & State Sen. Frank Niceley (R)]Gov. Haslam says he will consider a Tennessee plan to secretly arm and train some teachers, TPM reports. The legislation will be introduced by State Sen. Frank Niceley (R) next month. "Say some madman comes in. The first person he would probably try to take out was the resource officer. But if he doesn’t know which teacher has training, then he wouldn’t know which one had [a gun]," Niceley told TPM. "These guys are obviously cowards anyway and if someone starts shooting back, they’re going to take cover, maybe go ahead and commit suicide like most of them have."[/quote] [quote=Oklahoma State Rep. Mark McCullough (R) & State Sen. Ralph Shortey (R)]State Rep. Mark McCullough (R) told the Tulsa World he plans to file legislation that would bring guns into schools, calling their absence "irresponsible." “It is incredibly irresponsible to leave our schools undefended – to allow mad men to kill dozens of innocents when we have a very simple solution available to us to prevent it," he said. "I’ve been considering this proposal for a long time. In light of the savagery on display in Connecticut, I believe it’s an idea whose time has come." Sen. Ralph Shortey (R) told the Tulsa World that teachers should carry concealed weapons at school events. "Allowing teachers and administrators with concealed-carry permits the ability to have weapons at school events would provide both a measure of security for students and a deterrent against attackers," he said.[/quote] [quote=Florida State Rep. Dennis Baxley (R)]Baxley, who once sponsored Florida's controversial Stand Your Ground law, told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune that keeping guns out of schools makes them a target for attacks. “We need to be more realistic at looking at this policy," he said. "In our zealousness to protect people from harm we’ve created all these gun-free zones and what we’ve inadvertently done is we’ve made them a target. A helpless target is exactly what a deranged person is looking for where they cannot be stopped.”[/quote] [quote=Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R)]At a Tea Party event Monday night, Perry praised a Texas school system that allows some staff to carry concealed weapons to work and encouraged local school districts to make their own policies.[/quote] [quote=Minnesota State Rep. Tony Cornish (R)]Cornish plans to introduce legislation that would allow teachers to arm themselves, according to the AP.[/quote] [quote=Oregon State Rep. Dennis Richardson (R)]In an email obtained by Gawker and excerpted below, Richardson tells three superintendents that he could have saved lives had he been armed and in Sandy Hook on Friday: "If I had been a teacher or the principal at the Sandy Hook Elementary School and if the school district did not preclude me from having access to a firearm, either by concealed carry or locked in my desk, most of the murdered children would still be alive, and the gunman would still be dead, and not by suicide. ... [O]ur children's safety depends on having a number of well-trained school employees on every campus who are prepared to defend our children and save their lives?"[/quote] [quote=Former Education Secretary Bill Bennett]"And I'm not so sure -- and I'm sure I'll get mail for this -- I'm not so sure I wouldn't want one person in a school armed, ready for this kind of thing," Bennett, who served as education secretary under Ronald Reagan, told Meet the Press Sunday. "The principal lunged at this guy. The school psychologist lunged at the guy. It has to be someone who's trained, responsible. But, my god, if you can prevent this kind of thing, I think you ought to."[/quote] "Demonizing". Couldn't have asked for you to give a more typical over-reactive response.
[QUOTE=areolop;43620677]No. And the chances of it happening to your school is highly unlikely. Everyone thinks that this shit happens all the time, but it doesnt. [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd-4WllIMAA3frt.jpg[/t] As soon as it stops becoming headlining news, then its become a passtime. This is hardly normal.[/QUOTE] "Doesn't happen that often", shows statistics that it happened 28 times in the past year alone.
Terrifying to think I was in class in that building a few hours before it happened. [QUOTE=areolop;43620677]No. And the chances of it happening to your school is highly unlikely. Everyone thinks that this shit happens all the time, but it doesnt. [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd-4WllIMAA3frt.jpg[/t] As soon as it stops becoming headlining news, then its become a passtime. This is hardly normal.[/QUOTE] It's not really the same though, it wasn't some crazy guy shooting random people. Apparently it was just some guy targeting one person, and then he turned himself in right after.
[QUOTE=areolop;43620677]No. And the chances of it happening to your school is highly unlikely. Everyone thinks that this shit happens all the time, but it doesnt. [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd-4WllIMAA3frt.jpg[/t] As soon as it stops becoming headlining news, then its become a passtime. This is hardly normal.[/QUOTE] holy shit you don't think that is a lot lmao maybe it really is a ~passtime~ if you think that is remotely acceptable
[QUOTE=Stopper;43621197]"Doesn't happen that often", shows statistics that it happened 28 times in the past year alone.[/QUOTE] 28 times is not often. 128 would be scary and 528 would be fuck it, home-schooling my kid.
[QUOTE=lolz3;43621427]28 times is not often. 128 would be scary and 528 would be fuck it, home-schooling my kid.[/QUOTE] 28 times is still 28 times too many.
[QUOTE=lolz3;43621427]28 times is not often. 128 would be scary and 528 would be fuck it, home-schooling my kid.[/QUOTE] Dude, the US has it's own separate page on Wikipedia for school shootings. In what reality do you live in where 28 school shootings in one year is not often?
I think there is some confusion about the difference between a mass shooting and a school shooting. Not excusing or defending the "only 28?" statements. Just saying.
[QUOTE=Stopper;43621674]Dude, the US has it's own separate page on Wikipedia for school shootings. In what reality do you live in where 28 school shootings in one year is not often?[/QUOTE] 28 days including shootings out of a 365/day year isn't that much. That's like 7% of the year. There is no way to STOP it from happening, it's literally impossible short of screening every student, personnel, and visitors through x-ray scanners everyday like they do at the airport. It only seems like a lot because the media blows it out of proportion. p.s. I could submit a wikipedia page about each individual hair around my asshole. What does a wikipedia page have anything to do with this?
it's a lot fucking more than the rest of the world
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622118]28 days including shootings out of a 365/day year isn't that much. That's like 7% of the year. There is no way to STOP it from happening, it's literally impossible short of screening every student, personnel, and visitors through x-ray scanners everyday like they do at the airport. It only seems like a lot because the media blows it out of proportion. p.s. I could submit a wikipedia page about each individual hair around my asshole. What does a wikipedia page have anything to do with this?[/QUOTE] Don't know 'bout you. But I don't go to school 365 days a year. It's more like 170-210 days/year.
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622118]28 days including shootings out of a 365/day year isn't that much. That's like 7% of the year. There is no way to STOP it from happening, it's literally impossible short of screening every student, personnel, and visitors through x-ray scanners everyday like they do at the airport. It only seems like a lot because the media blows it out of proportion. p.s. I could submit a wikipedia page about each individual hair around my asshole. What does a wikipedia page have anything to do with this?[/QUOTE] I understand that, but there is something very, very wrong with that statistic. I don't know why you're all trying to defend it as something normal when it obviously isn't. You know, I used to think that it seems like a lot of shootings because of media coverage, but recently I'm starting to think that it's a lot of shootings, because it's [I]a lot[/I] of shootings. p.s. You couldn't. It has everything to do with the fact that the rest of the world combined has had less school shootings than the USA.
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622118]28 days including shootings out of a 365/day year isn't that much. That's like 7% of the year. There is no way to STOP it from happening, it's literally impossible short of screening every student, personnel, and visitors through x-ray scanners everyday like they do at the airport. It only seems like a lot because the media blows it out of proportion. p.s. I could submit a wikipedia page about each individual hair around my asshole. What does a wikipedia page have anything to do with this?[/QUOTE] In the last 10 years, Canada has had 6 school shootings. In the last 10 years, Europe has had 9 school shootings. The past year alone, the USA has had 28 school shootings.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43622398]In the last 10 years, Canada has had 6 school shootings. In the last 10 years, Europe has had 9 school shootings. The past year alone, the USA has had 28 school shootings.[/QUOTE] You're making comparisons about countries with completely varying populations, school systems, and overall culture, not to mention that Europe is divided over 50 (?) countries. That's a really stupid comparison, imo, especially since Canada has a population of 31 million compared to the US's 313 million. Wikipedia is not a viable source for statistics. There's a reason wikipedia is no longer allowed as a form of reference in most schools.
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622498]You're making comparisons about countries with completely varying populations, school systems, and overall culture. That's a really stupid comparison, imo, especially since Canada has a population of 31 million compared to the US's 313 million. Wikipedia is not a viable source for statistics. There's a reason wikipedia is no longer allowed as a form of reference in most schools.[/QUOTE] wow cool ok because Europe has a population of 739.2 million
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43622398]In the last 10 years, Canada has had 6 school shootings. In the last 10 years, Europe has had 9 school shootings. The past year alone, the USA has had 28 school shootings.[/QUOTE] Canada has had 8 since '92. Europe had 15 since '94. Still low but get your numbers right.
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622498]You're making comparisons about countries with completely varying populations, school systems, and overall culture. That's a really stupid comparison, imo, especially since Canada has a population of 31 million compared to the US's 313 million. Wikipedia is not a viable source for statistics. There's a reason wikipedia is no longer allowed as a form of reference in most schools.[/QUOTE] Yeah and it's 10 years versus one year. The USA's population is only 9 times that of Canada, but Europe has a population of over double that of the USA. Also two of the Canadian school shootings were fatality-less and were basically just threats. You said it yourself though, the overall culture is different. The reason you have so many Americans killing each other is because of your shitty gun culture.
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622498]You're making comparisons about countries with completely varying school systems and overall culture.[/quote] Who gives a shit? If those different school systems and culture somehow influence the amount of school shootings, then there's a problem. [quote]especially since Canada has a population of 31 million compared to the US's 313 million.[/QUOTE] By that logic, bigger countries should have more shootings, but that's not true, is it?
[QUOTE=lolz3;43622528]Canada has had 8 since '92. Europe had 15 since '94. Still low but get your numbers right.[/QUOTE] Wait how were my numbers wrong? You didn't contradict me.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43622534]Yeah and it's 10 years versus one year, also the USA's population is only 9 times that of Canada, but Europe has a population of over double that of the USA. Also two of the Canadian school shootings were fatality-less and were basically just threats. You said it yourself though, the overall culture is different. The reason you have so many Americans killing each other is because of your shitty gun culture.[/QUOTE] I don't own a gun, don't really care to, but I'm not one to tell people what to do with themselves. Ban guns outright, people will still get their hands on them.
5 school shootings in Australia since 1991; 3 dead. IIRC there was a [URL="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/03/1048962883322.html"]crossbow incident[/URL] around 2003* as well..
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43622538]Who gives a shit? If those different school systems and culture somehow influence the amount of school shootings, then there's a problem. By that logic, bigger countries should have more shootings, but that's not true, is it?[/QUOTE] Babble all you want about the need for change, but no one has made a viable suggestion that could be implemented.
I thought the argument here was that the US has more shootings than the rest of the world? Sounds to me like you're trying to say that that's not a valid point because the US has a "varying population, a different school system, and different culture" which is frankly dumb
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622498]You're making comparisons about countries with completely varying populations, school systems, and overall culture, not to mention that Europe is divided over 50 (?) countries. That's a really stupid comparison, imo, especially since Canada has a population of 31 million compared to the US's 313 million. Wikipedia is not a viable source for statistics. There's a reason wikipedia is no longer allowed as a form of reference in most schools.[/QUOTE] this is how embarrass yourself
[QUOTE=Aetna;43622545]Ban guns outright, people will still get their hands on them.[/QUOTE] 1. Who the hell said to "ban guns outright? 2. "people will still get their hands on them" can be said for literally every illegal thing, ever
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