• Venezuelian revolutionary guard seize 2,500 rolls of toilet paper in overnight raid
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[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/venezuela-police-seize-2500-rolls-of-toilet-paper-in-overnight-raid/2013/05/30/06c420a6-c957-11e2-9cd9-3b9a22a4000a_story.html[/url] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/venezuela-toilet-paper-bust-police-seize-2500-rolls_n_3363620.html[/url] [QUOTE]CARACAS, Venezuela — Police in Venezuela say they have seized nearly 2,500 rolls of toilet paper in an overnight raid of a clandestine warehouse storing scarce goods. Toilet paper is hard to find in Venezuelan grocery stores, as are staple food items such as sugar, milk and cooking oil. The socialist government says the shortages are part of a plot by opponents to destabilize the country. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Economists blame the government’s price and currency controls.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/16/venezuela-toilet-paper-shortage-50m"] Venezuela hopes to wipe out toilet paper shortage by importing 50m rolls[/URL]
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;40868402]Imagine how much money you could make by smuggling toilet paper into the country right now :v:[/QUOTE] Don't try to profit off of a shitty situation like this capitalist pig.
What kind of person stockpiles bog roll? You don't know, well I'll tell you, people that are nothing more than shit heads, skid marks upon society, hell bent on bringing their peers down!
This is just a oil mogul scheme to destabilize the political institution and wipe the socialists clean out of Venezuela. I guess they figure there's too many people clinging on to old ideologies and they need to squeeze the country into the pool of political discussion. [SUB][SUB]I'm sorry[/SUb][/SUB]
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;40868482]Actually according to the exchange rate, i'd actually be losing money by doing it. [IMG]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-pseudo.gif[/IMG] (I mean you could set the price of the toilet paper over there double the amount you payed for it, but that would be so expensive hardly anyone would buy it)[/QUOTE] Damn, they fucked up bad, didn't they?
socialism, everyone
oh shit
So that's what's happening, geez
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;40868860]socialism, everyone[/QUOTE] because venezuela is totally not corrupt or anything nope. it's socialism!!!!
[QUOTE=DeveloperConsol;40869342]because venezuela is totally not corrupt or anything nope. it's socialism!!!![/QUOTE] Socialism is bad when it means companies are nationalized.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40871289]Socialism is bad when it means companies are nationalized.[/QUOTE] Only when it's poorly managed.
[QUOTE=Coffee;40871569]Only when it's poorly managed.[/QUOTE] Which happens with most nationalized industries. Having a large scale bureaucracy to manage an entire industry is insanity.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40871575]Which happens with most nationalized industries. Having a large scale bureaucracy to manage an entire industry is insanity.[/QUOTE] The solution to that issue to make specific industries such utilities, education, healthcare, telecom and transport partially nationalised, but still allow for a privatised option for the consumers who want one, then every other industry should be regulated to an minor degree.
[QUOTE=Coffee;40871655]The solution to that issue to make specific industries such utilities, education, healthcare, telecom and transport partially nationalised, but still allow for a privatised option for the consumers who want one, then every other industry should be regulated to an minor degree.[/QUOTE] Yes I'm already in support of that. Please justify the nationalizing of industries such as steel, agriculture, automobiles, computer hardware, oil, toilet paper or publishing?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40871687]Yes I'm already in support of that. Please justify the nationalizing of industries such as steel, agriculture, automobiles, computer hardware, oil, toilet paper or publishing?[/QUOTE] Oh, I was never supporting that. I was just saying that it's fine for a company to be nationalised if the government does a good job of it, but I don't think that they should nationalise everything.
Happy I live in America where we use toilet paper for trashing houses.
socialism is terrible, corruption is terrible, and a combination of the two is hell. here's a official, venezuelan source if the story sounds too unbelievable to be true [url]http://www.avn.info.ve/node/175063[/url] btw we also have shortages of power, water, chicken, milk, eggs, sugar, maize flour (we use that for a lot of stuff), cooking oil, among other things, they're no longer produced locally so we have to import them, but at the same time the prices are regulated by the government and whatever production exists locally is TIGHTLY regulated by one particular government agency I can't remember the name of, so it isn't sabotage or anything, there's just not enough production and the fact that the prices are tightly regulated just makes importing them to be total suicide for anyone but the government, since the government has infinite resources thanks to oil exports. also we're not THAT communist to have a revolutionary guard. they're called the national guard, really.
But the venezuelan govt. also plans to have [Url=http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-create-workers-militia-165808807.html]a guerilla of it's own.[/url]
[QUOTE=Tumama;40873331]But the venezuelan govt. also plans to have [Url=http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-create-workers-militia-165808807.html]a guerilla of it's own.[/url][/QUOTE] We've had one for years, since 2005, the Bolivarian Militia, they were essentially deactivated for 200 years, since wartime. Chavez brought it back.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;40872335]btw we also have shortages of power, water, chicken, milk, eggs, sugar, maize flour (we use that for a lot of stuff), cooking oil, among other things, they're no longer produced locally so we have to import them, but at the same time the prices are regulated by the government and whatever production exists locally is TIGHTLY regulated by one particular government agency I can't remember the name of, so it isn't sabotage or anything[/QUOTE] Its all about the Price controls. The government is blaming capitalists but the system was working fine before the government set the price controls. Businessmen and workers can no longer make a profit from their products so they have no incentive to continue producing them. The only thing the Venezuelan government has done right is nationalize the oil but even that has problems.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40873548]Its all about the Price controls. The government is blaming capitalists but the system was working fine before the government set the price controls. Businessmen and workers can no longer make a profit from their products so they have no incentive to continue producing them. The only thing the Venezuelan government has done right is nationalize the oil but even that has problems.[/QUOTE] that was done about 50 years ago. venezuela is one of the founding countries of the OPEC, and PDVSA owns literally every oil well in the country ever since its creation, that wasn't due to chavez. chavez got rid of all the foreign investment from private companies and replaced it with debts with China, Russia, and diverse Latin American countries, we're getting fucked from so many sides because of the retarded ass economic doctrines that if it weren't tragic it'd be a porn flick.
[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;40868402]Imagine how much money you could make by smuggling toilet paper into the country right now :v:[/QUOTE] [I]I got some top quality goods here. Charmin Ultra Soft, straight from the factory. 50 bucks a wipe.[/I]
Meanwhile, in the United States, you can't buy toilet paper without looking like a god damn idiot Do they really have to come in such large numbers?
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