• 50 State Snapshot: Trump, Cruz Lose to Clinton, While Kasich Wins
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[url]https://morningconsult.com/presidential-election-2016-electoral-college-projection/[/url] [quote] If the presidential election was held today, businessman Donald Trump and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz would lose to Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, according to an extensive Morning Consult analysis of 44,000 poll respondents. Ohio Gov. John Kasich is the only candidate who could beat Clinton in November. Both Trump and Cruz would lose to Clinton by considerable margins in a head-to-head race, winning just 210 and 206 electoral college votes, respectively. By contrast, Kasich comfortably beats Clinton, racking up 304 electoral college votes to her 234. [/quote]
Idk even how kasich gets those numbers, he's only marginally less conservative than Cruz, the only thing he is good at is repositioning himself when he looses, but he has only won 1 state, and he's not exactly a good governor, his towing of the conservative line for example has caused Ohio to have more restrictive abortion laws than Texas, we have a terrible voter registration laws, and he wasted millions trying to defend the States same sex marriage ban as well as trying to bust up the few remaining unions in this state. Growth and wages have been pretty stagnant nomatter what he says, most of Ohio is only sort of hanging in there Nobody really knows him outside of Ohio is his biggest strength
[QUOTE=Sableye;50129021]Idk even how kasich gets those numbers, he's only marginally less conservative than Cruz, the only thing he is good at is repositioning himself when he looses, but he has only won 1 state, and he's not exactly a good governor, his towing of the conservative line for example has caused Ohio to have more restrictive abortion laws than Texas, we have a terrible voter registration laws, and he wasted millions trying to defend the States same sex marriage ban as well as trying to bust up the few remaining unions in this state. Growth and wages have been pretty stagnant nomatter what he says, most of Ohio is only sort of hanging in there[/QUOTE] Perhaos the question wasn't framed as "who would you want to win the republican nomination", but "if x wins the republican primary, will you vote for him?" The issue is that Trump and Cruz are far more polarizing than Kasich. If Trump won the election, there are conservative moderates that would rather vote for Clinton. However, if Kasich won the election, those moderates would vote for him, and perhaps trump supporters would vote for him simply because he's more conservative than Clinton.
Because polls this far out from the general election mean anything lol
[QUOTE=wystan;50129041]Because polls this far out from the general election mean anything lol[/QUOTE] Please, enlighten us on a scenario where Trump wins over demographics other than white men. Because you know he'll need more than that to win in November, right?
[QUOTE=Sableye;50129021]Idk even how kasich gets those numbers, he's only marginally less conservative than Cruz, the only thing he is good at is repositioning himself when he looses, but he has only won 1 state, and he's not exactly a good governor, his towing of the conservative line for example has caused Ohio to have more restrictive abortion laws than Texas, we have a terrible voter registration laws, and he wasted millions trying to defend the States same sex marriage ban as well as trying to bust up the few remaining unions in this state. Growth and wages have been pretty stagnant nomatter what he says, most of Ohio is only sort of hanging in there Nobody really knows him outside of Ohio is his biggest strength[/QUOTE] AH BALANCED A BUDGEET.
I somehow really doubt that a guy who's currently still fourth in a three man race has any kind of shot at the general elections.
Quite a lot of "undecided" respondents in all the states polls in the article's map. Not saying that necessarily will mean they'll flip one way or the other but still. I've said it in every thread where anyone mentions polls that they don't mean anything this far out, anything could happen and once the primaries are done and over with people will start to seriously consider which candidate they'll vote for once their favorite gets beaten. For instance, I'm sure a lot of my fellow Sanders supporters will eventually realize that, even though Clinton will likely not do anything to upset major corporations in the US, Trump, Cruz, or Kasich would still serve corporate interests anyway and all the other GOPers are also pretty bad liars, so which ever GOP candidate wins, they'll still be as bad, if not worse than Clinton depending on what issues are most important to them. Social issues wise Clinton is much more liberal than any of the GOP candidates for instance, if you care about those you should probably vote clinton since I doubt she'll get in office and start enacting laws against gay marriage, abortion, and shit like that since those are now staples of the Democratic party platform. Me personally I'm probably going to decide who I'm going to vote for once the primarys are done. If Sanders somehow wins I'll vote for him no matter what. If Clinton wins I'll weigh my options out carefully, but I'm pretty sure that once I get in the voting booth I'll vote Clinton even though I loathe her.
Kasich hasn't faced a great deal of scrutiny so far since he's always in the background, I'd expect the result to be far closer if he won the nomination.
The order in which GOP candidates have received the most media scrutiny from highest to lowest are: Trump, Cruz, Kasich. This mirrors their chances in November. I don't doubt for a second that the media will turn their full attention to whoever wins. If Kasich won he'd be branded as Hitler-esque within the first month.
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