• "I should go" Founder of ME and Kotor Casey Hudson leaves Bioware.
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[quote]Casey Hudson's long career at BioWare took him from a technical artist on Neverwinter Nights and MDK2 to the head of the Mass Effect franchise. Now, after 16 years, he's decided to call it quits, saying that it's time for "a much-needed break." "This is without a doubt the most difficult decision of my career," Hudson wrote. "BioWare is as magical a place today as it was when I started. The projects we are working on are some of the most exciting and prestigious in the world. The talent in our teams is second to none. And the people here are some of my closest friends. I’ve spent more time with many of you than my own family, and I have enjoyed every day of it."[/quote] [url]http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/08/07/mass-effect-director-casey-hudson-leaves-bioware/[/url]
What colour ending did he pick?
[QUOTE=Britishboy;45623787]What colour ending did he pick?[/QUOTE] The pink-slip ending. He wasn't fired, but you know what, fuck it.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;45623774]and with that, the soul leaves the rotting husk of a corpse that is bioware[/QUOTE] Wasn't Hudson almost solely responsible for ME3's ending? I thought him and Walters overrode the entire writing staff for that part of the game.
nah bioware kinda suck these days
[QUOTE=Skyward;45623857]Wasn't Hudson almost solely responsible for ME3's ending? I thought him and Walters overrode the entire writing staff for that part of the game.[/QUOTE] You're correct. This is not a sad day.
[QUOTE=Skyward;45623857]Wasn't Hudson almost solely responsible for ME3's ending? I thought him and Walters overrode the entire writing staff for that part of the game.[/QUOTE] Very interesting lead writers as well. [img]http://i.imgur.com/xVOiF6p.png[/img]
I'm not sure if Bioware will recover anytime soon if DA3 sucks.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;45623880]You're correct. This is not a sad day.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://puu.sh/aJ3KN/15cddc3be7.jpg[/IMG] Damn, someone beat me to it.
So did Bioware fuck themselves up or did EA fuck them up Or was it a little bit of both?
[QUOTE=Delta616;45623917][IMG]http://puu.sh/aJ3KN/15cddc3be7.jpg[/IMG] Damn, someone beat me to it.[/QUOTE] Not sure if the two of you are making the same point.
[QUOTE=Delta616;45623917][IMG]http://puu.sh/aJ3KN/15cddc3be7.jpg[/IMG] Damn, someone beat me to it.[/QUOTE] Hudson wrote the ending and when the writers told him it was bad he told them to do it anyway.
I still don't forget what BULLSHIT this guy fed me leading up to ME3. Good riddance, you might have been good once, but you suck now.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;45623931]Not sure if the two of you are making the same point.[/QUOTE] It's a similar point. But none-the-less, Mac Walters should be ashamed for doing that ending with casey.
[QUOTE=Delta616;45623917][IMG]http://puu.sh/aJ3KN/15cddc3be7.jpg[/IMG] Damn, someone beat me to it.[/QUOTE] Walters was lead, but Hudson came in and took hold over the rest of the writing team and worked solely between him and Walters for writing the game's final hours. AKA the most offensively bad part of the game.
well Mass Effect 4 will suck now.
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;45623981]well Mass Effect 4 will suck now.[/QUOTE] not like it wouldn't have sucked anyways with him at the helm
[QUOTE=proch;45623928]So did Bioware fuck themselves up or did EA fuck them up Or was it a little bit of both?[/QUOTE] I think being EA's poster child during that brief "EA is better than Activision" period got to their heads a bit.
[QUOTE=Skyward;45623857]Wasn't Hudson almost solely responsible for ME3's ending? I thought him and Walters overrode the entire writing staff for that part of the game.[/QUOTE] That is exactly what happened. we have these two men to thank for the atrocious ending.
Everyone blames Casey Hudson for ME3, but I'd rather remember him as the man who's mainly responsible for making the series as awesome as it is. Don't forget he directed ME1 and ME2.
Seems kinda sudden since he still appeared in the 'trailer' for the new Mass Effect as director/producer/something.
[QUOTE=proch;45623928]So did Bioware fuck themselves up or did EA fuck them up Or was it a little bit of both?[/QUOTE] EA obviously pushed ME3 out before it was ready, they should of waited till holiday 2012 and given them more time. That and hubris and lack of quality talent like hamburger helper are to blame on bioware's part.
So is any of that true at all or are we not only going to post the same thing over and over, but also without any proof or sources. The only one I know of is by the removed post by *possibly* one of the writers on NeoGAF. Anyway, it sucks he is gone I suppose, but I don't think it will change much. Mass Effect is a new team, DA:I is by the DA team even if supplemented by Edmonton, and is pretty much done now. The new game has just entered development and his departure will not really change it, as it has never truly formed yet. [editline]7th August 2014[/editline] So good luck to him. [editline]7th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Saxon;45624516]EA obviously pushed ME3 out before it was ready, they should of waited till holiday 2012 and given them more time. That and hubris and lack of quality talent like hamburger helper are to blame on bioware's part.[/QUOTE] I'd say that the game being forced out with all the cut content still snuck inside its files did a lot more damage than apparant "hubris". Most of the writers were also the same to my knowledge, Hamburger Helper was also only on DA:O and DA2, she wrote a lot of DA:O's stuff, helped plan out work, and also trained new members of its team. You cannot keep using one woman that the internet flipped out over for not enjoying video-games (which is not really her job. She writes and has no say on the gameplay or quality beyond what she writes) as a good example of anything.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;45623880]You're correct. This is not a sad day.[/QUOTE] I think it's sad that he's leaving the company on a sour note. Whatever he did wrong on Mass Effect 3, he is still responsible for KOTOR and the Mass Effect series as a whole, and I think he should still be proud of that fact. That said, I do think it's time for Bioware and Hudson to get a refresh, so maybe getting a new director at the helm will bring Mass Effect back to what ME1 and ME2 teased.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;45624536]I'd say that the game being forced out with all the cut content still snuck inside its files did a lot more damage than apparant "hubris". Most of the writers were also the same to my knowledge, Hamburger Helper was also only on DA:O and DA2, she wrote a lot of DA:O's stuff, helped plan out work, and also trained new members of its team. You cannot keep using one woman that the internet flipped out over for not enjoying video-games (which is not really her job. She writes and has no say on the gameplay or quality beyond what she writes) as a good example of anything.[/QUOTE] Jennifer Hepler, David Gaider, Casey Hudson, they all kinda collectively embody the issues with Bioware's games. They live in this bubble world where everyone likes their pretentious high school philosophy and their wispy cringe inducing waifu bait. There is no criticism inside the Bioware hugbox. You can see it with how the ending to ME3 was handled, you can see it in all the ways that DA2 failed, and you can sure as shit see it in the groan inducing 2edgy4u character descriptions for DA:I. It's just a bunch of fanfiction writers jerking each other off for being "daring" and "progressive" and it's a goddamn disgrace.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45624720]Jennifer Hepler, David Gaider, Casey Hudson, they all kinda collectively embody the issues with Bioware's games. They live in this bubble world where everyone likes their pretentious high school philosophy and their wispy cringe inducing waifu bait. There is no criticism inside the Bioware hugbox. You can see it with how the ending to ME3 was handled, you can see it in all the ways that DA2 failed, and you can sure as shit see it in the groan inducing 2edgy4u character descriptions for DA:I. It's just a bunch of fanfiction writers jerking each other off for being "daring" and "progressive" and it's a goddamn disgrace.[/QUOTE] Except Hepler was involved in DA:O and Gaider to my knowledge was its main writer. May I also mention how Casey Hudson was the project director for all 3 games. Even if you hated the third one, its ending, or anything of it; the other two are still there. It obviously shows that there is more variables than just "bad dude who makes bad gaems". Walters? I can't say much about him. You can't just bring up these people and say that magically they did all these things by themselves. Where is your proof that these people somehow magically destroyed all of Bioware and all of their games? Its quite a big claim you got there. Do you or I work at Bioware? Hell no, I don't know what the hell is going on there. What I do know from actual files and actual mod implemented scenes is that things like the ending were never properly finished. That this game suffered from being rushed and that ones like DA:2 probably had the same fate. But I certainly won't say what their true environment as a company is, nor what the truth behind these games were. We will quite possibly never truly know the full story and its easy to make assumptions from a distanced spectator position. Infact with all due respect given, most of your argument is just emotional banter about "2edgy4u" and "fanfic writers jerking off". Its inane and not truly counterable on a mature level as an intelligent conversation. I don't even know where the hell you got half of this from and I can only assume its emotionally extrapolated from information around the web and one's own personal thoughts and emotions. I won't even entertain how DA:I isn't even released yet. TL:DR If the games are good, they will be good. Your mileage may vary.
[QUOTE=Skyward;45623857]Wasn't Hudson almost solely responsible for ME3's ending? I thought him and Walters overrode the entire writing staff for that part of the game.[/QUOTE] Yeah after the writer of the original ending left before they even started development on ME3. Mass Effect's development cycle was a fucking mess after ME2.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;45624828]Except Hepler was involved in DA:O and Gaider to my knowledge was its main writer. May I also mention how Casey Hudson was the project director for all 3 games. Even if you hated the third one, its ending, or anything of it; the other two and still there. It obviously shows that there is more variables than just "bad dude who makes bad gaems". Walters? I can't say much about him. You can't just bring up these people and say that magically they did all these things by themselves. Where is your proof that these people somehow magically destroyed all of Bioware and all of their games? Its quite a big claim you got there. Do you or I work at Bioware? Hell no, I don't know what the hell is going on there. What I do know from actual files and actual mod implemented scenes is that things like the ending were never properly finished. That this game suffered from being rushed and that ones like DA:2 probably had the same fate. But I certainly won't say what their true environment as a company is, nor what the truth behind these games were. We will quite possibly never truly know the full story and its easy to make assumptions from a distanced spectator position. Infact with all due respect given, most of your argument is just emotional banter about "2edgy4u" and "fanfic writers jerking off". Its inane and not truly counterable on a mature level as an intelligent conversation. I don't even know where the hell you got half of this from and I can only assume its emotionally extrapolated from information around the web and one's own personal thoughts and emotions. I won't even entertain how DA:I isn't even released yet. TL:DR If the games are good, they will be good. Your mileage may vary.[/QUOTE] [thumb]http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140730211037/dragonage/images/9/92/Cole_profile.jpg[/thumb] “He is a ghost in the shadows, walking unnoticed through crowds. He can slit an enemy's throat before they even realize he's there, and slip away, never to be seen again. Those few who do notice him soon forget he ever existed… and Cole isn't certain that he does exist." a super powerful ultra skilled spirit ghost waif who doesn't believe that he exists nope, nothing fanfictiony or pretentious about that
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;45624908] “He is a ghost in the shadows, walking unnoticed through crowds. He can slit an enemy's throat before they even realize he's there, and slip away, never to be seen again. Those few who do notice him soon forget he ever existed… and Cole isn't certain that he does exist." a super powerful ultra skilled spirit ghost waif who doesn't believe that he exists nope, nothing fanfictiony or pretentious about that[/QUOTE] How is this any different from any other story by Bioware or infact tons of games, or even tons of books, movies, and games. You are literally saying the entire story and the entire parts that involve this character are terrible because of a very simple and open description of him. anything sounds good, bad, or too similar to another idea, when burned down to complete utter basics. In fact lets make some. Master Chief - A stoic quiet warrior of humanity, chosen to become a super soldier like many before him, one of the last ones remaining, owed to his incredible luck and even more incredible killing ability, even for a Spartan Super Man - The last living member of a great alien species, adopted by human parents when he was a baby. With the strength and intelligence far beyond what any mere human man could be with powerful abilities. Space Marines - The ultimate and last line of humanity's defense, super soldiers bred for war, without fear nor compromise; they execute their missions mercilessly and relentlessly until the last man falls. Mere men could never match them as soldiers nor killers. Its easy to make small descriptions and even easier to make an internal bias because of them. If this guy is a "pretentious fanfiction" character, then so is almost every other game character, including tons of beloved ones like Garrus or Tali.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;45623774]and with that, the soul leaves the rotting husk of a corpse that is bioware[/QUOTE] I dunno. Dragon Age: Inquisition looks solid and filled with player ideas.
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