• Boy Scouts of America leaders put off vote on gay membership
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[quote]Gays hoping to join the Boy Scouts will have to wait until at least May after the organization's executive board put off a vote on lifting its outright ban on openly homosexual scouts and troop leaders.[/quote] [URL]http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/us/boy-scouts-policy/[/URL] [quote=comment on articles]Everyone needs to pray for the Boy Scouts. They need to pray that our leaders make the "Morally straight" decision. Many liberals say that change is good. I say if it isn't broken don't fix it. If they change the BSA's policy then it will be broken, and then it will need to be fixed. I say this as a scout, if the BSA changes its policy on gays in the program I will never say "morally straight" while reciting the oath ever again![/quote] are we in the 21st century yet
It's like America is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.
Then say 'Morally gay' or 'Morally bi'. Hell, or 'Morally trans'. Just quit being a biggot.
This still shames me being an Ex-Scout myself. Obviously I am gay because I was morally wrong for the Scouts. (Least for the comments) :rolleyes:
[QUOTE] I say this as a scout, if the BSA changes its policy on gays in the program I will never say "morally straight" while reciting the oath ever again![/QUOTE] Girl, just say morally fabulous! It has this cute little ring to it, AM I RIGHT LADIES?
[quote=comments from article]Many liberals say that change is good. I say if it isn't broken don't fix it.[/quote] But it is broken?
BSA is a load of fuck shit and a waste of time. I did it for the horseback riding and that was about it.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39539165]It's like America is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.[/QUOTE] It's hard when you're the largest first world country, and you have a ton of different cultures within your own. But we're sorting our shit out.
Because putting off decisions always fixes whatever problem there is.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39539165]It's like America is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.[/QUOTE] France is giving us some tough competition. [img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2012/11/19/11/enhanced-buzz-2263-1353341128-0.jpg[/img] [img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2012/11/19/10/enhanced-buzz-14680-1353340544-32.jpg[/img] [img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2012/11/19/10/enhanced-buzz-796-1353337426-0.jpg[/img] [img]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2012/11/19/10/enhanced-buzz-14247-1353340545-6.jpg[/img] [i]Liberté, égalité, fraternité[/i]
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39539165]It's like America is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.[/QUOTE] And it will probably stay that way for a long time, at least until the current generation are like 60 years older. Youth have been more accepting as time goes on, but as long as the policy makers are still against it we can't do much. So when they die, maybe, we can start making real headway
[quote]I say this as a scout, if the BSA changes its policy on gays in the program I will never say "morally straight" while reciting the oath ever again![/quote] Except "morally straight" has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation.
[QUOTE=Malos;39539431]Except "morally straight" has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation.[/QUOTE] I thought the phrase was "morally right"
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;39539331]France is giving us some tough competition.[/QUOTE] Well fuck me for thinking they were all really chill and progressive and um...French.
Apparently two representatives from my old counsel are some of the ones that will be voting on this, they set up a place to write them recommendations and most of the Eagles scouts I know as well as myself have written to suggest allowing gay members.
People also need to realize that national regulations is not necessary the same as the beliefs of individual troops. I have seen plenty of people bashing all scouts or troops even though many are very open minded. While I am not personally aware of any gay or bi boy scouts attending my old troop (nobody felt the need to ask) I have the feeling that they would not be asked to leave, after all what national does not know can not hurt them.
[QUOTE=Fort83;39539714]Bigots just love to make up phrases to somehow defend their position on being intolerant. "Morally straight", "Traditional Marriage" [B]"Family Values"[/B]. Fuck those people seriously. I am ashamed to have been in scouts as a child.[/QUOTE] I love that one. Family values like tolerance, unconditional love and acceptance, supportiveness. Oh wait.
[QUOTE=Fort83;39539714]Bigots just love to make up phrases to somehow defend their position on being intolerant. "Morally straight"[/QUOTE] tbh that just means "don't harm people/do idiotic things on purpose"
That's what happens when you've got an organisation that's pretty much run by the mormons. I really thought this was going to pass through this time :(
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39539165]It's like America is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.[/QUOTE] They can't really beat Russia at that. (well, if you take Russia as West anyway) [B](NSFW)[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgsb9esYfSk[/media] [B](NSFW)[/B] [editline]10th February 2013[/editline] There's actually (possibly unexpected) break a bit after 2:15, which is actually the true meaning of the video. (it's pretty harsh scare homophobic propaganda)
I'm trying to look through the comments for some bigoted responses, but I can't even do that because there's an argument about whether Romney could've fixed the economy.
When is this shit going to stop? Seriously....there's no fucking point in it.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39539165]It's like America is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.[/QUOTE] I can always count on Facepunch to generalize a whole country based off something they read about on the Internet.
[QUOTE=Ast_risk;39547442]I can always count on Facepunch to generalize a whole country based off something they read about on the Internet.[/QUOTE] You've been to America right? Because I live here. Even despite my community having a very high em... gay rate, there are people who publicly talk about shooting gays or burning them.
[QUOTE=Ast_risk;39547442]I can always count on Facepunch to generalize a whole country based off something they read about on the Internet.[/QUOTE] Obligatory "FP hivemind" post. I'm tired of these stupid posts.
[QUOTE=Ast_risk;39547442]I can always count on Facepunch to generalize a whole country based off something they read about on the Internet.[/QUOTE] Well, believe it or not, for shit like this to pass or be popular opinion, it needs to be what the majority of people in the area think. So yes. Americans, as a whole, are insisting on not moving out of the dark ages.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;39539165]It's like [B]America[/B] is absolutely determined that it will remain the last bastion of homophobia and ignorance in the western world, one way or another.[/QUOTE] it's like europeans are absolutely determined to think that the citizens of a country of 330 million people all have the same beliefs
[QUOTE=Megadick;39548261]it's like europeans are absolutely determined to think that the citizens of a country of 330 million people all have the same beliefs[/QUOTE] It's almost like Americans cannot into popular opinion.
If you let gays into the boy scouts what next? Black people? ASIANS? WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END OBAMA
As an official Boy Scout, I can confirm that Council absolutely sucks. I don't have a problem with gay people being in Scouts, it's not like they're going to turn me gay.
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