Hi, fellas. Was wondering what kind of gaming monitor do u guys use? In badly need of a nice gaming monitor. I've just looked into this Dell 24" Widescreen LED LCD Monitor .
[url]http://www.dealstudio.com/searchdeals.php?type=id&q=d233523&ru=28904617[/url]
Looks cool. But I'm not sure it is that good. Any thoughts? Is it worth the price? Any other good options?
Ugh, this thread again...
Before any suggestions come in I'll just go ahead and state some facts so we can keep this thread factual and correct.
This is all information I have gathered myself, if I'm wrong on any point please let me know and I'll fix it.
1. 90% of all information in that link you posted is useless, the only things that matter that can be gathered from spec sheets are Size, resolution, backlight type, panel type, input connectors, articulating of the stand (tilt, pivot etc) and asthetics. The rest, the stuff that really matters like propperly measured response time, input lag, ghosting, backlight bleed etc should only be gathered from independent professional reviews from sites like tftcentral.co.uk
2. A monitor labled as an LED monitor does not mean it uses actual LEDs to produce the pictures, it only uses white LEDs to produce the backlight. This is as oposed to traditional CCFL (cold cathode florescent lighting). LED backlighting tends to result in worse color fidelity (accuracy of colors displayed on screen compared to real world) than traditional CCFL backlighting.
3. The difference between 5ms and 20ms response time is less than any human brain can comprehend unless possibly in side-by-side comparisons, and just to make it abundantly clear, [b]the specs the manufacturer gives are next to useless and should only be used as rough guidelines, look up professional reviews.[/b]
4. And on that subject, there's a difference between response times and response times. What response time actually is is the time it takes for a single pixel to change color either from black all the way through to white and then back to black again, this is called Black to Black response time, mostly abbreviated to BTB. There is however a different measurement, gray to gray. Gray to gray works exactly like black to black except that it is the time it takes from a pixel to go from gray to white and back to gray.
If the response time is not labeled as either BTB or GTG, then it is usually GTG as it tends to be lower than BTB and thus looks better on spec sheets. Ex, a monitor that boasts 2ms response time is probably just 2ms GTG and BTB may be much higher. Response time is somewhat irrelevant though, what matters is how much the monitor ghosts (a phenomenon where a new frame of picture is displayed before the previous one faded completely, resulting in blurry movement) in real life.
5. 16:9 and 16:10 aspect ratio makes next to no difference, 16:10 is more suitable for office enviroments because of more vertical size which is good when reading/writing long documents, and 16:9 is more suited for TVs and home PC monitors because movies tend to be 16:9 aspect ratio so you don't get black bars at the top and bottom.
6. In LCD flatscreens there's (as far as I know) three main technologies used in how the picture is displayed. These are called TN, VA and IPS. There are many, many variations of these technologies like super-IPS, M-VA and such, I'm not completely up to scratch on the different sub types so this point will be very general. TN panels is what you find mostly these days, it's cheap to produce and picture quality is acceptable so plebians who don't know better will buy it. TN panels are generally quite shit when it comes to color fidelity and viewing angles (how far off to the sides you can view a monitor before the colors start to distort). If I remember correctly, VA is good when it comes to viewing angles and color fidelity, IPS is great in color fidelity but not as good as VA when it comes to viewing angles (still better than TN). IPS panels are generally cheaper than VA panels though.
Which of these you should choose depends on what you need, VA is used a lot in TVs because of the great viewing angles and IPS and VA are used in high end monitors for people who do graphics design work and the likes. TN should really only be an option if you're on a tight budget because IPS panels are getting cheaper by the day.
If you are low on money and honestly don't care about color accuracy and wont be viewing the monitor at an angle, then TN is the panel of choice for you. If you want better quality and you have a large desk/room or you have more than one monitor and you want to be able to see what's on the screen without color distirtion from different angles, IPS is the choice for you. Since you're looking for a "gaming" monitor I won't suggest VA, as it's out of your price range and tend to have bad response times and ghosting (depends on price range and such).
Guys, I'm pretty sure it's a spam thread.
Basically that site is fucking terrible if you buy from it you're going to regret it.
chipset I think you should save that shit to a text file and just repost it if anymore monitor threads come up.
[QUOTE=moesislack;28616397]Basically that site is fucking terrible if you buy from it you're going to regret it.
chipset I think you should save that shit to a text file and just repost it if anymore monitor threads come up.[/QUOTE]
I've always gotten my stuff from newegg and I've never had problems with it.
...except for a monitor I bought once, which had a bigass hole in the center of the screen for no apparent reason. But it was easy to get another sent out.
[QUOTE=Derpmeifter;28617672]I've always gotten my stuff from newegg and I've never had problems with it.
...except for a monitor I bought once, which had a bigass hole in the center of the screen for no apparent reason. But it was easy to get another sent out.[/QUOTE]
i think he means op's site
Make sure you get a 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 resolution monitor if your serious about gaming.
[QUOTE=leontodd;28622531]Make sure you get a 1920x1080 or 1680x1050 resolution monitor if your serious about gaming.[/QUOTE]
thats a dumb thing to say
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no offense bro, but resolution doesn't impact how well/bad you do
[QUOTE=Justice;28614461][url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079[/url]
I love it dearly. For the price, it can't be beat unless you're able to find a decent used IPS monitor.[/QUOTE]
Looks great, thanks.
[QUOTE=axon;28626808]thats a dumb thing to say
[editline]15th March 2011[/editline]
no offense bro, but resolution doesn't impact how well/bad you do[/QUOTE]
It does. The immersion on a 1680x1050 screen is way higher then a small 1280*1024 one.
[QUOTE=axon;28626808]thats a dumb thing to say
[editline]15th March 2011[/editline]
no offense bro, but resolution doesn't impact how well/bad you do[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it affects how you do, just that it greatly improves immersion.
Contrast ratio is a ton of bull
[QUOTE=leontodd;28652668]I'm not saying it affects how you do, just that it greatly improves immersion.[/QUOTE]
If thats what you were implying. I agree
[img]http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/skuimages/large/H25-2702-main01-am.jpg[/img]
Sexiest looking screen ever.
HP 2710m, best 27 inch monitor out there, that isn't the u2711 atleast.
92% color gamut.
low pixel density and no anti glare?
[QUOTE=chipset;28614395]2. A monitor labled as an LED monitor does not mean it uses actual LEDs to produce the pictures, it only uses white LEDs to produce the backlight.[/QUOTE]
When will they shrink LED technology down small enough to have an R/G/B LED for each pixel? I'm sure we must be close, and OLED doesn't count. That would eliminate the need for a backlight entirely, and give us deeper blacks.
Haha that dealstudio.com looks like a GTAIV website
[QUOTE=axon;28663120]low pixel density and no anti glare?[/QUOTE]
Matte screens aren't for everyone. I've owned matte screens since 2002, and the this is the first glossy I've ever bought.
Easily 100x better than my old screens.
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;28663168]Matte screens aren't for everyone. I've owned matte screens since 2002, and the this is the first glossy I've ever bought.
Easily 100x better than my old screens.[/QUOTE]I sort of like matte a little better than glossy. But each to his own. There is a reason why they don't just make only glossy or matte.
[QUOTE=Candice;28663148]When will they shrink LED technology down small enough to have an R/G/B LED for each pixel? I'm sure we must be close, and OLED doesn't count. That would eliminate the need for a backlight entirely, and give us deeper blacks.[/QUOTE]
Because I'm lazy I'll let wikipedia explain how wrong you are.
An organic light emitting diode (OLED) is a light-emitting diode (LED) in which the emissive electroluminescent layer is a film of organic compounds which emit light in response to an electric current. This layer of organic semiconductor material is situated between two electrodes. Generally, at least one of these electrodes is transparent.
[b]An OLED display functions without a backlight.[/b] Thus, it can display deep black levels and can be thinner and lighter than liquid crystal displays. In low ambient light conditions such as dark rooms, an OLED screen can achieve a higher contrast ratio than an LCD using either cold cathode fluorescent lamps or the more recently developed LED backlight.
Basically OLED displays ARE individual RGB LEDs just using organic compounds instead of silicon as the semiconductor, that are bunched together and that don't need their own backlighting.
Proof: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_XEL-1[/url]
get a 1600x1200 CRT
its what all the pro gamers use
[QUOTE=Justice;28614461][url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079[/url]
I love it dearly. For the price, it can't be beat unless you're able to find a decent used IPS monitor.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with this, it's orgasmically bright and colourful.
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001440[/url]
My friend has got this screen, and it's very nice. I've got an older Syncmaster myself, and I've generally never had any problems with Samsung.
I'm interested to know why many monitors have now adopted 1920 x 1080, I'm aware it's the 'HD' standard for tellies, but I'm not watching telly, I'm gaming/working. I want 16:10 like my 1680 x 1050 monitor..
Quit reporting the OP, tia
[QUOTE=axon;28626808]thats a dumb thing to say
[editline]15th March 2011[/editline]
no offense bro, but resolution doesn't impact how well/bad you do[/QUOTE]
800x600 disagrees with you.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;28668549]Quit reporting the OP, tia[/QUOTE]
Your avatar is very annoying.
its worth noting that if your graphics card can muster the power, 120hz screens improve the fluidity of games by a signicant margin
[QUOTE=Mattk50;28671657]its worth noting that if your graphics card can muster the power, 120hz screens improve the fluidity of games by a signicant margin[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain your monitor's refresh rate has no performance impact whatsoever unless you have vertical synchronization turned on. :rolleyes:
A high refresh rate is definitely a good thing to get from a display, though. Although anything over 90 is kinda overkill.
FPS and refresh rate are "linked" if you have a monitor with a refresh rate at 60hz and your graphics card is putting out 50 frames per second then your only going to see a refresh rate of 50. the same would go for a graphics card only able to output 60fps in a certain game, a 120hz monitor wouldnt be able to take advantage of its extra refresh rate.
Hz= frequency per second fps= (frequency of) frames per second
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