• The Master of ‘Kompromat’ Believed to Be Behind Trump Jr.’s Meeting
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[QUOTE]MOSCOW — The salacious video, of a naked man in bed with two women, was one of the most prominent examples of “kompromat,” the Russian art of spreading damaging information to discredit a rival or an enemy, in recent Russian history. It was made available to Russian state television in the late 1990s and authenticated in public by Yuri Y. Chaika, Russia’s prosecutor general, who at 66 has a long and storied background in kompromat. Mr. Chaika benefited from the video, as it destroyed a predecessor as prosecutor general, Yuri I. Skuratov, who had been looking into suspicions of corruption by President Boris N. Yeltsin and his associates. Mr. Chaika (pronounced CHIKE-uh) is also the man who is widely considered to have been the source of the incriminating information on Hillary Clinton that Donald Trump Jr. was promised at a meeting last June in Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer and a Russian-American lobbyist. And yet, oddly, the accusations brought to New York fell flat, by the accounts of those present, despite their having originated from such a seasoned master of kompromat. Donald Trump Jr. said in a statement that the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had offered him the information but that it “made no sense” and was not “meaningful.” Ms. Veselnitskaya has said that two others at the meeting, the Trump campaign chairman, Paul J. Manafort, and President Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, paid little attention. That stands in sharp contrast to the video, which led to the ouster of Mr. Skuratov, helped Vladimir V. Putin establish himself as the successor to Mr. Yeltsin and, ultimately, enabled Mr. Chaika to ascend to the prosecutor general’s office. In Russia, said Thomas Rid, a scholar of intelligence history at King’s College London, “there’s an appreciation that information is power, and having information that somebody considers very private information is even more powerful.” Mr. Skuratov has insisted all along that he was not the man in the tape. But Mr. Chaika, after becoming acting prosecutor general in 1999, endorsed the video’s authenticity, saying it showed a “legal basis” to open an investigation.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/world/europe/russia-donald-trump-jr-kompromat-yuri-chaika.html"]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/world/europe/russia-donald-trump-jr-kompromat-yuri-chaika.html[/URL]
In my heart of hearts I know the piss tape is real
Lock them all up already
[QUOTE=Nautsabes;52481812]In my heart of hearts I know the piss tape is real[/QUOTE] Then the inevitable goal post moving will start with that "There is no piss tape!" "There's a piss tape, but I'm not in it." "I'm in the piss tape, but it was an accident." "It was intentional, but everybody has a piss fetish! It's normal!"
[QUOTE=New Cidem;52482525]Then the inevitable goal post moving will start with that "There is no piss tape!" "There's a piss tape, but I'm not in it." "I'm in the piss tape, but it was an accident." "It was intentional, but everybody has a piss fetish! It's normal!"[/QUOTE] Moving goalposts is about the most pathetic and sad way to try and justify something tbh, it just shows you have no balls to directly try defending yourself, to say nothing of having no means of really defending yourself in a justifiable manner.
Was there ever a bigger crook than Donald John Trump? Fuck me, even Nixon is starting to look like a saint by comparison.
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[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;52482540]Moving goalposts is about the most pathetic and sad way to try and justify something tbh, it just shows you have no balls to directly try defending yourself, to say nothing of having no means of really defending yourself in a justifiable manner.[/QUOTE] If Donald Trump just came right out and said, "I have a fetish for watersports,"it would have grossed me out, and prompted some pretty vicious mockery from the public at large. Even more so if the bit about intentionally doing it on a bed that Obama once slept in were true. I would find his insecurity pathetic and hilarious, BUT I already do anyway. That news would just confirm all the things that [I]already[/I] disgust me about Donald Trump as a person, but being a petulant manbaby with a piss fetish isn't a betrayal of trust [I]or[/I] a high crime of office. Repeatedly lying to the American people is. Trump already lacks any shred of dignity. The people who hated him would continue hating him, and his supporters would rationalize it away. Now, however, if it comes to light that the allegations are true, he'll [I]still[/I] be sacrificing that dignity, [I]and[/I] get caught in yet another massive lie to the American public. One more stone on the funeral cairn of his doomed presidency. Long story short, if somebody is trying to blackmail you with an embarrassing video, just get ahead of it. The damage of having it come to light on your own terms will be less severe than letting a massive web of lies spiral out of control and having it come out anyway. Especially if you're the fucking president. Getting caught in an embarrassing scandal will pretty much guarantee you won't be reelected, sure, but you won't be fuckin' impeached for it at least. Bill Clinton wasn't impeached because he got a blowjob, he was impeached because he lied about it.
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