• NASA rules out manned Moon mission in the foreseeable future
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[QUOTE]NASA administrator Charles Bolden has dismissed [URL="http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/9/3620540/nasa-resolve-moon-2017-obama-approve-l2-manned-space-station"]the idea[/URL] that the space agency will attempt another manned Moon mission. Speaking with contemporaries, Bolden said "[URL="http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/05/back-to-the-moon-not-any-time-soon-says-bolden/"]NASA will not take the lead on a human lunar mission[/URL]... probably in my lifetime." Bolden added that if the next administration reverses NASA's decision it would set back the manned space program in its entirety. He warned that, should we divert resources towards a manned moon mission in the future, we would probably never "see Americans on the Moon, on Mars, near an asteroid, or anywhere" in our lifetimes, explaining that "we cannot continue to change the course of human exploration."[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/7/4193424/nasa-administrator-charles-bolden-rules-our-manned-moon-mission[/URL] shit sucks yo, please save us SpaceX
because the pursuit of space never led to any highly useful and widely used technologies ever right right
we went to the moon in the fucking 1969. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?
[QUOTE][URL="http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/05/back-to-the-moon-not-any-time-soon-says-bolden/"]NASA will not take the lead on a human lunar mission[/URL]... probably in my lifetime.[/QUOTE] Somebody kill that guy! [sp]not really[/sp]
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking [b]1959[/b]. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] No we didn't. Edit: I knew most people on this site were stupid, but seriously? You don't even know which decade we landed on the moon? This isn't directed at you Badger, just the dumbs.
[QUOTE=Reds;40195090]because the pursuit of space never led to any highly useful and widely used technologies ever right right[/QUOTE] Correct, I totally agree. Stuff like GPS and digital cameras are stuff nobody uses right. In all seriousness, it's important to keep in mind that "not sending men to the Moon", is not the same as "not doing anything about space", but still, we're not focusing nearly as much as we should on space.
[QUOTE=Falubii;40195119]No we didn't.[/QUOTE] typo, fixed
Uh huh. I am completely out of faith in NASA's ability to set, stick to, and accomplish goals in their manned program. If we EVER see people on the Moon or Mars in our lifetimes, they won't have the NASA logo on their spacecraft.
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking 1959. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] That was just the first man-made object on the moon. We didn't get any people on the moon until 1969. Also I think it has something to do with the fact that NASA has no money.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;40195145]That was just the first man-made object on the moon. We didn't get any people on the moon until 1969. Also I think it has something to do with the fact that NASA has no money.[/QUOTE] Their budget is 0.3% or something, compared to 5% at the hight of the Apollo Program
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking 1959. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] It's not "why could," it's "why would." Sending people into space just isn't practical at the moment. It doesn't yield much information that couldn't be gathered by unmanned probes. Vanity like sending people to the moon/mars is going to be the [I]death[/I] of space exploration, it's negligently impractical, incredibly expensive and until there's actual life-supporting foothold infrastructure on the moon/mars there's no reason to actually go to them. I'd much rather see far more ambitious unmanned missions to actually build infrastructure on the moon, rather than just having to witness this circlejerk of sending people to the moon to bounce around on camera for a few days. The only problem is there's so many people who just don't give a shit about science or practical space exploration and would rather just see people launched into space for the sake of appearances.
Why would they send people on the moon again anyway?
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40195204]It's not "why could," it's "why would." Sending people into space just isn't practical at the moment. It doesn't yield much information that couldn't be gathered by unmanned probes. Vanity like sending people to the moon/mars is going to be the [I]death[/I] of space exploration, it's negligently impractical, incredibly expensive and until there's actual life-supporting foothold infrastructure on the moon/mars there's no reason to actually go to them. I'd much rather see far more ambitious unmanned missions to actually build infrastructure on the moon, rather than just having to witness this circlejerk of sending people to the moon to bounce around on camera for a few days. The only problem is there's so many people who just don't give a shit about science or practical space exploration and would rather just see people launched into space for the sake of appearances.[/QUOTE] In other words we're having more fun sending minivan sized robots to other planets to poke at rocks because we don't want to spend money making any real progress. Congrats NASA, you're being run by geologists and pricks from Cambridge. Oh, and because your country doesn't know how to manage a healthy economy.
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking 1969. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] we don't know how anymore, the scientists, engineers, and the astronauts who did it all are either dead or retired along with the technology. This is what technological atrophy is, if you don't use it, you lose it.
[QUOTE=MIPS;40195265]In other words we're having more fun sending minivan sized robots to other planets to poke at rocks because we don't want to spend money making any real progress. Congrats NASA, you're being run by geologists and pricks from Cambridge.[/QUOTE] Their budget is being slashed because, I don't know if you've lived in the United States for the last 4-5 years, but the economy fucking blows. Spending billions on sending people to space will not help that, and it'll only throw away whatever budget NASA DOES have, further guaranteeing that they wont get anything else in the future. Futhermore, we can do everything just as well unmanned, you people just have a boner for putting people on the moon for no reason
[QUOTE=MIPS;40195265]In other words we're having more fun sending minivan sized robots to other planets to poke at rocks because we don't want to spend money making any real progress. Congrats NASA, you're being run by geologists and pricks from Cambridge.[/QUOTE] how do astronauts on planets constitute "progress"?
[QUOTE=MIPS;40195265]In other words we're having more fun sending minivan sized robots to other planets to poke at rocks because we don't want to spend money making any real progress. Congrats NASA, you're being run by geologists and pricks from Cambridge.[/QUOTE] who said it was about having fun? Okay yes, space exploration is fun, but it's about learning new things, things that may bring us great advancements. I'd much rather keep sending robots like curiosity that can collect information effectively than sending off men that would do literally the same only cost three times as much to send them, not including the fact that there's a pretty good chance they won't be able to return to earth. [editline]7th April 2013[/editline] the space race is over, there's no need anymore for dickwaving about who sends people where or any risky stunts like that.
[QUOTE=MIPS;40195265]In other words we're having more fun sending minivan sized robots to other planets to poke at rocks because we don't want to spend money making any real progress. Congrats NASA, you're being run by geologists and pricks from Cambridge.[/QUOTE] Curiosity is collecting data we couldn't otherwise.
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking 1969. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] Because NASA's buget for this year is only going to be $17.7 billion, and there is no public interest in space exploration.
[QUOTE=Falubii;40195119]No we didn't. Edit: I knew most people on this site were stupid, but seriously? You don't even know which decade we landed on the moon? This isn't directed at you Badger, just the dumbs.[/QUOTE] He edited his post, so I thought you changed it to 1959. Since he fixed it, perhaps you could snip that now?
[QUOTE=Falubii;40195119]No we didn't. Edit: I knew most people on this site were stupid, but seriously? You don't even know which decade we landed on the moon? This isn't directed at you Badger, just the dumbs.[/QUOTE] It really fucking matters to understand the point
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking 1969. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] Money that could be better spent killin terrorists son.
[QUOTE=laserguided;40195480]Money that could be better spent killin terrorists son.[/QUOTE] the irony is some of our best 'turrist killing tech came from the space race
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;40195204]It's not "why could," it's "why would." Sending people into space just isn't practical at the moment. It doesn't yield much information that couldn't be gathered by unmanned probes. Vanity like sending people to the moon/mars is going to be the [I]death[/I] of space exploration, it's negligently impractical, incredibly expensive and until there's actual life-supporting foothold infrastructure on the moon/mars there's no reason to actually go to them. I'd much rather see far more ambitious unmanned missions to actually build infrastructure on the moon, rather than just having to witness this circlejerk of sending people to the moon to bounce around on camera for a few days. The only problem is there's so many people who just don't give a shit about science or practical space exploration and would rather just see people launched into space for the sake of appearances.[/QUOTE] I hate to use a generic quote but it really isn't about "why would" or "why" it really is about [I]why not.[/I] Look at how much progress could be made in different areas of the world from producing food in the most hostile place we could ever visit, what about fuel efficiency and so forth - it's not just about sending people there because "why not" it's future proofing our planet from other things that aren't apparent just yet. Though I suppose we could do that without sending people there, we are probably better off sending robots to that, but at least we have SpaceX doing it.
We need a space elevator to cheapen the process of going to space. That would set the USA ahead of other nations for probably centuries.
[QUOTE=KingArcher;40195450]It really fucking matters to understand the point[/QUOTE] I simply corrected him. I'm sorry you're so offended. [editline]7th April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=X6ZioN6X;40195438]He edited his post, so I thought you changed it to 1959. Since he fixed it, perhaps you could snip that now?[/QUOTE] I don't see why I should. Then it will look like I said something wrong or dumb.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;40195211]Why would they send people on the moon again anyway?[/QUOTE] To fight space nazis and take control of their helium-3 supply
Don't worry guys. When China announce that they will go to the moon or Mars, Maybe we will re-interest beyond LEO again.
Why would we want to go back to the Moon? We've done it, NASA is working towards a manned asteroid landing now. No Moon landing doesn't mean no space exploration
[QUOTE=redBadger;40195101]we went to the moon in the fucking 1969. It's 2013. why couldn't we do it again?[/QUOTE] We went to the moon because of Russians... We have no reason to go there now. Neil Tyson had a nice big long talk about this actually. He even made a good point. He stated that if China announced plans to send a manned mission to mars to build a station there, the U.S. would have a project and plan and be launching people to Mars the next day. There really isn't a reason for us to go to the Moon, not saying there isn't reason for Nasa to do things and research, but physically going to the moon doesn't have the same reasons as it did when we first did it.
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