• Most cancer is just caused by random chance rather than lifestyle, says US study
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30641833[/url] [quote]Most types of cancer can be put down to bad luck rather than risk factors such as smoking, a study has suggested. A US team were trying to explain why some tissues were millions of times more vulnerable to cancer than others. The results, in the journal Science, showed two thirds of the cancer types analysed were caused just by chance mutations rather than lifestyle. However some of the most common and deadly cancers are still heavily influenced by lifestyle. And Cancer Research UK said a healthy lifestyle would still heavily stack the odds in a person's favour.[/quote]
I'm surprised that there isn't a larger amount put down to genetic predisposition.
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Came back from my cigarette and just read this, phew. [editline]2nd January 2015[/editline] I don't smoke
2/3rds of cancer types? Wow
so if I get a really rare cancer I should buy a lottery ticket right?
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;46840614]so if I get a really rare cancer I should buy a lottery ticket right?[/QUOTE] i think this is the other kind of luck
[QUOTE=Bradyns;46840591]I'm surprised that there isn't a larger amount put down to genetic predisposition.[/QUOTE] Probably falls under the chance heading seeing as genetics isn't lifestyle.
[QUOTE=doomevil;46840596]RNG is love, RNG is life[/QUOTE] I always get fucked over by RNG in games. :( time to check fo' lumps more.
Makes me wonder if people develop cancer from a random mutation that is not strong enough to grow much, dies and just vanishes without the person noticing at all.
[QUOTE=kaizari;46840853]Makes me wonder if people develop cancer from a random mutation that is not strong enough to grow much, dies and just vanishes without the person noticing at all.[/QUOTE] Uh, this pretty much happens multiple times a day to everyone.
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Cancer is ruled by RNG then!? oh god its payday 2 all over again [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - SteveUK))[/highlight]
"Hello sir/madam, do you have the time to discuss the workings and miracles of our lord and savior RNGesus?" Man, bad luck? My family name is INFAMOUS for bad luck.
Watch as everyone ignore the study itself and simply read its title. Tobacco, pollution, industrial food, drugs and overall lifestyle still has a huge impact on the most common and deadly cancers.
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[QUOTE=headshotter;46841116]Watch as everyone ignore the study itself and simply read its title. Tobacco, pollution, industrial food, drugs and overall lifestyle still has a huge impact on the most common and deadly cancers.[/QUOTE] This. If you smoke, you're still waaaaay more likely to get lung cancer. The study basically says "Many types of cancer just occur randomly, but some of the most common cancers are still clearly tied to lifestyle."
Also unhealthy living will certainly kill you faster than any cancer will. So many people die to heart attacks, but not a lot of people seem to care, because apparently it's less scary than a longer, drawn out illness.
[QUOTE=doomevil;46840596]RNG is love, RNG is life[/QUOTE] If WoW taught me one thing its that RNG is a faggot
Isn't it always caused by random change? Carsinogens just increase the risk. You can never say whether a mutation that became lung cancer was directly caused by smoking, even though it's highly likely if the person smoked for 40 years.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;46840614]so if I get a really rare cancer I should buy a lottery ticket right?[/QUOTE] Yeah, you're probably on a hot-streak
[QUOTE=kaizari;46840853]Makes me wonder if people develop cancer from a random mutation that is not strong enough to grow much, dies and just vanishes without the person noticing at all.[/QUOTE] Yes? Most men do developed prostate cancer but only a few actually grow to be a problem
I was taught in high school that, if humans could live long enough, eventually everyone would get some type of cancer at some point. Something about cells being only able to reproduce the right way for so long before a single one fucking up the process. Guess this confirms it.
[QUOTE=T553412;46841656]I was taught in high school that, if humans could live long enough, eventually everyone would get some type of cancer at some point. Something about cells being only able to reproduce the right way for so long before a single one fucking up the process. Guess this confirms it.[/QUOTE] It's basic genetics/ biology. DNA copying is not a perfect process and as you age it goes incorrectly more often. The processes our bodies have to repair mutations start to become less effective or get overwhelmed with the amount of mutation occurring, and bam, cancer.
[quote]However some of the most common and deadly cancers are still heavily influenced by lifestyle. [/quote] Some types of cancer are not influenced by lifestlye, but most common and deadly are. So, what did they prove ? All this is just sensationalist common sense, targeted at those who never went to biology class.
[QUOTE=download;46840647]Probably falls under the chance heading seeing as genetics isn't lifestyle.[/QUOTE] That's half of it. Cancer is, first and foremost, a mutation that creates useless and harmful strains of cells that don't die off on their own, and instead continue to spread uncontrollably. The main factor of what makes cancer what it is, genetic mutation, is primarily random as it is. Not to suggest that carcinogens [I]can't[/I] trigger cancerous mutations, but instead that it's also pretty capable of happening on its own. In short, this means that Cancer is a lifetime game of Russian Roulette, and smoking cigarettes just adds another bullet to the chamber.
I thought it was well-known that most cancer came from shit dice rolls in the game of life? [editline]2nd January 2015[/editline] Like, of course, certain kinds of cancer get much higher risks if you smoke or dance inside nuclear reactors or tan too much or whatever, but generally, cancer is just something that happens.
[QUOTE=T553412;46841656]I was taught in high school that, if humans could live long enough, eventually everyone would get some type of cancer at some point. Something about cells being only able to reproduce the right way for so long before a single one fucking up the process. Guess this confirms it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't remember everything from the oncology section of my biology class, but I do remember that. I think the scientific term is telomeres? They shrink everytime a cell divides. As it gets smaller and smaller, the chances of a fuck up becoming greater and greater.
[QUOTE=headshotter;46841116]industrial food[/QUOTE] Go on.
[QUOTE=Riller;46842245]I thought it was well-known that most cancer came from shit dice rolls in the game of life? [/QUOTE] Riller: rtd Riller rolled [B]godmode[/B] for [B]7 seconds[/B].
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