• Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters - shooting them from other aerial vehicles still O.K
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/sbjTe0Q.jpg[/img] [quote]Officials in Texas announced on Thursday that State Troopers would no longer be allowed to open fire on suspects from helicopters after the recent killing of two immigrants. While announcing the new policy, Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw insisted that the ban on aerial shootings had nothing to do with the October 2012 death of two Guatemalan immigrants, who were gunned down by troopers in helicopter while they were hiding in the back of a speeding pickup truck near La Joya.[/quote] [url=http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/22/texas-bans-shooting-immigrants-from-helicopters/]READ MORE[/url]
Progress at its finest.
Just shoot them from the outside of planes. Problem solved.
Everyone is going to like this until someone escapes while people in a helicopter sit there and watch, unable to shoot. Then everyone will dislike it.
Ugh, looks like I'll have to break out the old hot air balloon again...
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695235']Everyone is going to like this until someone escapes while people in a helicopter sit there and watch, unable to shoot. Then everyone will dislike it.[/QUOTE] I didn't know you were allowed to kill illegals because they are crossing the border.
Ah, I LOVE a good challange! Jumping from a airplane it is!
[QUOTE=green bandit;39695250]I didn't know you were allowed to kill illegals because they are crossing the border.[/QUOTE] it says suspects, not immigrants. I'm imagining a violent crime being witnessed, without anyone being able to stop it.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695267']it says suspects, not immigrants. I'm imagining a violent crime being witnessed, without anyone being able to stop it.[/QUOTE] Thanks to Canada's communist liberal laws I have to witness hundreds of people being victimized every time I take my helicopter out for a joyride and I'm powerless to stop it Don't follow down this path america legalize shooting people from helicopters again
What they don't tell you is that shooting people while hanging from a cord attached to the bottom of a helicopter is [i]technically[/i] not shooting from it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39695280]Thanks to Canada's communist liberal laws I have to witness hundreds of people being victimized every time I take my helicopter out for a joyride and I'm powerless to stop it Don't follow down this path america legalize shooting people from helicopters again[/QUOTE] I didn't know you were a state trooper (or province trooper, or whatever you call it in Canada.) I never even implied that civilians should go around in helicopters shooting people, or that is should be common for police to do so. Just if the need arises, it would suck for them not to be able to. I like how you seem to think I am rambling about "communist liberal laws" when this has nothing to do with economic systems, or even really politics.
I would like to see someone try to shoot anything out of any other aerial vehicle. Not exactly practical to try that out of a hot air balloon.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695319']I didn't know you were a state trooper (or province trooper, or whatever you call it in Canada.) I never even implied that civilians should go around in helicopters shooting people, or that is should be common for police to do so. Just if the need arises, it would suck for them not to be able to. I like how you seem to think I am rambling about "communist liberal laws" when this has nothing to do with economic systems, or even really politics.[/QUOTE] there's no reason anyone needs to shoot from a helicopter. there is almost no situation where a helicopter would be more effective than a guy on the ground unless it is a warzone.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695235']Everyone is going to like this until someone escapes while people in a helicopter sit there and watch, unable to shoot. Then everyone will dislike it.[/QUOTE] Lethal force isn't an acceptable response for stopping someone escaping in almost all situations.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39695438]there's no reason anyone needs to shoot from a helicopter. there is almost no situation where a helicopter would be more effective than a guy on the ground unless it is a warzone.[/QUOTE] Did you read what I said earlier? With this law, police in a helicopter could witness violent crimes, and stand by while a suspect escapes. What if there isn't a guy on the ground? Guys on the ground are far slower to arrive on a scene than a helicopter.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695468']Did you read what I said earlier? With this law, police in a helicopter could witness violent crimes, and stand by while a suspect escapes. What if there isn't a guy on the ground? Guys on the ground are far slower to arrive on a scene than a helicopter.[/QUOTE] afaik helicopters don't patrol(way too expensive), and are only called in a few situations. there will never be a time when a police helicopter stumbles upon some violent crime going on that requires immediate lethal force to be taken.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39695462]Lethal force isn't an acceptable response for stopping someone escaping in almost all situations.[/QUOTE] Uh if they're a danger to others while escaping it is...?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39695575]afaik helicopters don't patrol(way too expensive), and are only called in a few situations. there will never be a time when a police helicopter stumbles upon some violent crime going on that requires immediate lethal force to be taken.[/QUOTE] They are commonly used for surveillance and such, and, they might not stumble upon a crime, but arrive at a crime scene first. I'm not saying this is a major thing, just that it is not good to restrict your options to much. Never know when something might be needed.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695319']I didn't know you were a state trooper (or province trooper, or whatever you call it in Canada.) I never even implied that civilians should go around in helicopters shooting people, or that is should be common for police to do so. Just if the need arises, it would suck for them not to be able to. I like how you seem to think I am rambling about "communist liberal laws" when this has nothing to do with economic systems, or even really politics.[/QUOTE] The joke: -> . Your head -> .
[QUOTE=Valdor;39695623]Uh if they're a danger to others while escaping it is...?[/QUOTE] examples of such a situation. [QUOTE='[sluggo];39695624']They are commonly used for surveillance and such, and, they might not stumble upon a crime, but arrive at a crime scene first. I'm not saying this is a major thing, just that it is not good to restrict your options to much. Never know when something might be needed.[/QUOTE] well can you give an example of how lethal force from a helicopter, even if the helicopter is first on scene, would be preferable to waiting for ground officers? the goal of the helicopter is to keep their eyes on the suspect and be able to relay info to the ground. this increases the likelihood of catching a fleeing suspect, for example.
They didn't ban shooting from helicopters completely. There are two clear exceptions, if the helicopter is being shot at, or someone on the ground is being shot at.
[QUOTE=prooboo;39695645]The joke: -> . Your head -> .[/QUOTE] whoosh.jpg
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39695664]examples of such a situation. well can you give an example of how lethal force from a helicopter, even if the helicopter is first on scene, would be preferable to waiting for ground officers? the goal of the helicopter is to keep their eyes on the suspect and be able to relay info to the ground. this increases the likelihood of catching a fleeing suspect, for example.[/QUOTE] Stopping a crime in progress, as I had stated before.
[QUOTE=counterpo0;39695222]Just shoot them from the outside of planes. Problem solved.[/QUOTE] And then you were the director of the INS
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695319'](or province trooper, or whatever you call it in Canada.) [/QUOTE] musher that title overrides whatever your current occupation is
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695743']Stopping a crime in progress, as I had stated before.[/QUOTE] you don't stop crimes in progress with lethal force generally.
[video=youtube;OTb8eiTWprI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTb8eiTWprI[/video] i am sorry everyone
The thread title is really flawed. I was going to suggest the boarder control agencies saving up for an AC-130 and just throw .50s and 25mms on it.
[QUOTE='[sluggo];39695235']Everyone is going to like this until someone escapes while people in a helicopter sit there and watch, unable to shoot. Then everyone will dislike it.[/QUOTE] yeah tbh as soon as i find out two nonviolent immigrants WERENT shot to death from a helicopter i'm gonna be freaking pissed off
You could shoot people from helicopters? That's one reason I ain't going outside until I get a bullet resistant umbrella.
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