[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37177938[/url]
[quote]Outgoing UKIP leader Nigel Farage has urged Republicans to "get your walking boots on" and drum up support for Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.
He appeared before 15,000 activists in Jackson, Mississippi, being introduced by and sharing the stage with Mr Trump.
And he said the party could "beat the pollsters" in the presidential race.[/quote]
You can see Farage here at 1:15:00
[video=youtube;bRxPb7ZmLHw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRxPb7ZmLHw[/video]
The whole rally was great and highly energetic.
Now that Britain will be great again I wonder if America will follow.
Perhaps Farage should stick to ruining his own country. We have enough ignorance and fear mongering in our politics as it is.
So I guess this is what Trump alluded to with his Mr. Brexit Tweet.
1776: Rest of the world please help we are declaring independence from Britain
2016: Britain please help we are declaring independence from the rest of the world
History is funny. Farage is a great speaker as well. I don't know if you Brits realize it but a British accent in America makes you sound 200% smarter
what the heck is he doing here, cmon britain we promised to keep our gun nuts here if you kept your fruitcakes away
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50943151]1776: Rest of the world please help we are declaring independence from Britain
2016: Britain please help we are declaring independence from the rest of the world
History is funny. Farage is a great speaker as well. I don't know if you Brits realize it but a British accent in America makes you sound 200% smarter[/QUOTE]
Nigel Farage is a moron. Somehow I'm not surprised that Trump supporters are drawn to clowns that talk big (but fail to deliver.)
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;50943216]Nigel Farage is a moron. Somehow I'm not surprised that Trump supporters are drawn to clowns that talk big (but fail to deliver.)[/QUOTE]
Well thanks to Farage the EU voted to leave, so Farage delivered on his part to UKIP
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50943231]Well thanks to Farage the EU voted to leave, so Farage delivered on his part to UKIP[/QUOTE]
Farage fucked over his country. Pardon me if I don't want him to come over here and help fuck up ours as well.
[editline]24th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50943151]1776: Rest of the world please help we are declaring independence from Britain
2016: Britain please help we are declaring independence from the rest of the world
History is funny. Farage is a great speaker as well. I don't know if you Brits realize it but a British accent in America makes you sound 200% smarter[/QUOTE]
British accents are not homogeneous lol. I'm p. sure a lot of Americans couldn't even understand some of them with how thick they get
[QUOTE=RIPBILLYMAYS;50943231]Well thanks to Farage the EU voted to leave, so Farage delivered on his part to UKIP[/QUOTE]
Thanks to his campaign built on misinformation Britain will lose the many benefits of being in the EU and vice versa. What a nice man.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;50943280]Farage fucked over his country. Pardon me if I don't want him to come over here and help fuck up ours as well.
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How is giving the UK the ability to decide their own laws, immigration, trade and personal freedoms going to ruin the UK?
[QUOTE=orgornot;50943057]You can see Farage here at 1:15:00
The whole rally was great and [b]highly energetic[/b].[/QUOTE]
you can't make this shit up
Seeing Donald Trump and Nigel Farage together is so weird and interesting.
I can't stop watching but I desperately want to vomit.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;50943373]you can't make this shit up[/QUOTE]
Trump, and I say this all the time. Hes very energetic. Hes an energetic guy. I always say, Trump has a lot of energy. Highly energetic.
At least he got rid of his moustache.
I mean, I suppose he had to, with all that talk of the common man, taking down the banks, battling corporatism, breaking up free-trade blocs, building a peoples army. Farage is the greatest subversive revolutionary Marxist who's ever lived.
what the actual fuck
[QUOTE=Metist;50943357]How is giving the UK the ability to decide their own laws, immigration, trade and personal freedoms going to ruin the UK?[/QUOTE]
Because if the UK wants to keep its massive financial sector and continue trading freely with the 450m trade bloc that now sits just 20mi off its coast, it isn't going to be able to freely decide its own laws on immigration, trade, and regulation. This is the most likely scenario, where the only things that have changed are that UK citizens are fucked out of EU citizenship and the UK, formerly the 3rd most represented member (and special snowflake) of the EU, no longer has representation in the European Parliament.
[QUOTE=Metist;50943357]How is giving the UK the ability to decide their own laws, immigration, trade and personal freedoms going to ruin the UK?[/QUOTE]
Uh, did you miss all the articles that popped up after Brexit?
Like [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524870&p=50612543"]a German woman being assaulted[/URL] or the [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524621&p=50601014"]other racist incidents[/URL] that happened as a result of Brexit?
Or maybe this one [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1528944&p=50804458"]that talks about farmers losing EU funding[/URL] or this other article [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524396"]about some towns relying on subsidies from the EU[/URL]?
There's also this one [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1527816&p=50755585"]about Brexit causing a drop in the economy[/URL], and this one where Brexit caused [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524283&p=50583046"]$50 billion in shares[/URL] to be lost and the Australian dollar dropped in value.
I mean, yeah Brexit might have had some good points, but it certainly wasn't all sunshine and puppy dogs.
Didn't Farage comment on how absurdly far right Trump was earlier this year? Did Trump teach him the art of flipflop politics or was he already well versed in it?
I like Farage as a speaker but he does some pretty dumb shit.
[QUOTE=Reaper297;50943594]Uh, did you miss all the articles that popped up after Brexit?
Like [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524870&p=50612543"]a German woman being assaulted[/URL] or the [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524621&p=50601014"]other racist incidents[/URL] that happened as a result of Brexit?
Or maybe this one [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1528944&p=50804458"]that talks about farmers losing EU funding[/URL] or this other article [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524396"]about some towns relying on subsidies from the EU[/URL]?
There's also this one [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1527816&p=50755585"]about Brexit causing a drop in the economy[/URL], and this one where Brexit caused [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1524283&p=50583046"]$50 billion in shares[/URL] to be lost and the Australian dollar dropped in value.
I mean, yeah Brexit might have had some good points, but it certainly wasn't all sunshine and puppy dogs.[/QUOTE]
That is some great fear mongering.
I shouldn't like Britain getting independence because of a women getting assaulted? So if a women got assaulted because Britain stayed I shouldn't have wanted Britain to stay?
Of course Farmers are going to lose EU funding. Leaving the EU means they lose EU money. At the same time Britain saves money by not having to give EU money.
Why should Britain be concerned over Australian money over their own country?
[QUOTE=spiritlol;50943657]Didn't Farage comment on how absurdly far right Trump was earlier this year? Did Trump teach him the art of flipflop politics or was he already well versed in it?
I like Farage as a speaker but he does some pretty dumb shit.[/QUOTE]
One more convert for our all powerful leader! Long Live Trump!
"Pretty dumb shit" is a bit of a understatement but I think pretty dumb shit covers 50% of both Trump & UKIP voters.
Trump has high energy. Gamma rays have high energy. Gamma rays give you cancer. Ergo, Trump gives you cancer.
[QUOTE=CommunistCookie;50943560]Because if the UK wants to keep its massive financial sector and continue trading freely with the 450m trade bloc that now sits just 20mi off its coast,[/QUOTE]
So I should put personal and national freedom below short term economics? Even then leaving the EU will allow for easier trading between the US and India.
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it isn't going to be able to freely decide its own laws on immigration, trade, and regulation. [/QUOTE]
You need to back this up with something.
[QUOTE=Metist;50943677]That is some great fear mongering.
I shouldn't like Britain getting independence because of a women getting assaulted? So if a women got assaulted because Britain stayed I shouldn't have wanted Britain to stay?
Of course Farmers are going to lose EU funding. Leaving the EU means they lose EU money. At the same time Britain saves money by not having to give EU money.
Why should Britain be concerned over Australian money over their own country?[/QUOTE]
Except the government has made no efforts to start the process of the leaving the eu because they know how fucking stupid it would be.
But if you guys love farage so much you can keep him
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;50943916]Except the government has made no efforts to start the process of the leaving the eu because they know how fucking stupid it would be.
But if you guys love farage so much you can keep him[/QUOTE]
We don't sorry you're stuck with him. I'm not playing hot potato with British politicians.
[QUOTE=Metist;50943842]So I should put personal and national freedom below short term economics? Even then leaving the EU will allow for easier trading between the US and India.[/QUOTE]
To call the EU a threat to personal freedom when the UK is notorious for its own ever-expanding surveillance state is laughable. And what is "national freedom", exactly? Freedom to decide your own environmental regulations, immigration laws, etc? The UK will have more wiggle-room in many areas (with a Tory gov't...), yes, but if the UK is going to want to continue exporting to the EU, which it is, it is going to have to abide by EU regulations. The EU is much bigger than the UK, meaning EU regulations will essentially become the default for British manufacturers.
Financial services make up ~13% of the UK's GDP and the EU is the largest trade bloc in the world, just off the coast of Kent. This is the farthest thing from "short term economics". India is a rapidly growing economy, but it's GDP is currently smaller than that of the UK itself and it isn't going to rival the EU anytime soon. And the US tends to favor treaties with large blocs (like the EU). "Easier" trade with the US and India will come nowhere close to compensating for an exit from the Single Market, which is why the UK is going to join the EEA.
[quote]You need to back this up with something.[/quote]
The EEA, which the UK will undoubtedly join, requires freedom of movement and partial adoption of EU law. Take Norway, Iceland, or Liechtenstein as examples.
[QUOTE=Metist;50943677]That is some great fear mongering.
I shouldn't like [B]Britain getting independence[/B] because of a women getting assaulted? So if a women got assaulted because Britain stayed I shouldn't have wanted Britain to stay?
Of course Farmers are going to lose EU funding. Leaving the EU means they lose EU money. At the same time Britain saves money by not having to give EU money.
Why should Britain be concerned over Australian money over their own country?[/QUOTE]
what exactly is the UK getting "independence" from?
was the EU holding them hostage? with all thats happened after brexit, it seems to me that this was all done for some facade of independence.
[QUOTE=Metist;50943677]That is some great fear mongering.
I shouldn't like Britain getting independence because of a women getting assaulted? So if a women got assaulted because Britain stayed I shouldn't have wanted Britain to stay?[/QUOTE]
Did you bother to actually read the articles? It wasn't just one woman. There were several people that had either been threatened or attacked. These attacks happened because Brexit won. Brexit was anti immigrant and used fear mongering to further push their agenda. So when Brexit passed, the racist assholes came out of the wood work and started harassing foreigners because they felt validated after the anti immigrant platform had won.
[QUOTE]Of course Farmers are going to lose EU funding. Leaving the EU means they lose EU money. At the same time Britain saves money by not having to give EU money.[/QUOTE]
How the hell can they save money? If those programs and towns require funding and the EU won't provide it anymore, then Britain either is going to have to provide the funds themselves, or cut it entirely. So would you care to explain how Britain really saves money, because I'm not seeing it.
[QUOTE]Why should Britain be concerned over Australian money over their own country?[/QUOTE]
Because here in the real world our economies are interconnected. If one countries economy crashes, chances are we're going to feel it in some shape or form.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;50943916]Except the government has made no efforts to start the process of the leaving the eu because they know how fucking stupid it would be.
But if you guys love farage so much you can keep him[/QUOTE]
No, the reason the government hasn't started it yet because waiting gives Britian an advantage in negotiating trade policy.
I also love how you call it stupid but don't explain why it is.
[editline]24th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Reaper297;50944024]Did you bother to actually read the articles? It wasn't just one woman. There were several people that had either been threatened or attacked. These attacks happened because Brexit won. Brexit was anti immigrant and used fear mongering to further push their agenda. [/QUOTE]
So? Again, people attacking other people in no way changes what should be done politically. By that horrible logic I should count all of the terrorist attacks as reasons why the EU is horrible since they forced those shitty border policies on Britain. At least that argument makes some logical sense. Why the hell should I consider a good thing bad because of what individual did as response to it? You are literally the one using fear mongering and saying I shouldn't be ok with Britain being free because of evil racists.
You are so blind it's amazing. Using fear mongering while saying the other side is.
[quote]How the hell can they save money[/quote]Where do you think EU funding originally comes from? Every nation in the EU pays money to the EU. Britain was paying a lot of money to the EU every year. Sure they wont get EU's financial support but at the exact same time they wont be paying money to the EU. It more than cancels out.
[quote]Because here in the real world our economies are interconnected.[/quote] Britain should put it's own economy and law first. Australia will have to adapt. Should China not negotiate for the best trade deal with America if it helps China at the cost of America?
[editline]24th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;50944014]what exactly is the UK getting "independence" from?\[/QUOTE]
EU deciding it's immigration, trade and law.
The UK wants and deserves to make it's own laws without interference from an unelected super state. How can anyone pretend to be liberal and be in favor of he EU's non representative form of government.
[editline]24th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=CommunistCookie;50943950]To call the EU a threat to personal freedom when the UK is notorious for its own ever-expanding surveillance state is laughable. And what is "national freedom", exactly? Freedom to decide your own environmental regulations, immigration laws, etc? The UK will have more wiggle-room in many areas (with a Tory gov't...), yes, but if the UK is going to want to continue exporting to the EU, which it is, it is going to have to abide by EU regulations. The EU is much bigger than the UK, meaning EU regulations will essentially become the default for British manufacturers.
Financial services make up ~13% of the UK's GDP and the EU is the largest trade bloc in the world, just off the coast of Kent. This is the farthest thing from "short term economics". India is a rapidly growing economy, but it's GDP is currently smaller than that of the UK itself and it isn't going to rival the EU anytime soon. And the US tends to favor treaties with large blocs (like the EU). "Easier" trade with the US and India will come nowhere close to compensating for an exit from the Single Market, which is why the UK is going to join the EEA.
.[/QUOTE]
You act like all trade is simply going to be destroyed by this. I don't know about you but I am willing to put personal freedom above economic gain. Especially now that without having to pay a higher share of EU tax and not having to be a welfare state for refuges Britains national economy shouldn't go down the shitter like the EUs has been doing consistently for the last few years. You want Britain to join the titanic because it's big and the ticket price is only freedom.
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