Idiots in my town make "US was founded on God" facebook group
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Yeah so some people in my town made a facebook group a bit ago, called "The US was founded upon God!"
[URL="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119396951409413&ref=nf#%21/pages/The-United-States-of-America-was-founded-upon-God/408990200365?ref=search&sid=651902615.3082429130..1"]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119396951409413&ref=nf#!/pages/The-United-States-of-America-was-founded-upon-God/408990200365?ref=search&sid=651902615.3082429130..1[/URL]
The fact that someone could live in this country and believe that this nation was founded upon Christianity is utterly stupid.
So I came up with an opposing group called
"The United States was NOT founded on christianity"
[U][URL="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119396951409413#%21/pages/The-United-States-was-NOT-founded-on-christianity/114848435210337?ref=mf"]http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119396951409413#!/pages/The-United-States-was-NOT-founded-on-christianity/114848435210337?ref=mf[/URL][/U]
and I would like you all to join.
Mods, sorry if you don't really see this as "relevant" per se, but I think it is worth the discusiion.
ADDED TO OP:
Also I am not saying religion is stupid, or people who are in a religion are stupid, I am saying that it is dumb to believe this nation was founded on christianity, or any religion for that matter. The United States was founded upon freedom of religion, but set up that religion should not be involved in the government. This should be common knowledge.
ALSO
The pledge of allegiance is not constitutional and has no bearing on the government or foundation of the country. It was written over a 100 years after the nation was founded. So just because it says "under god" in the pledge, it doesn't mean anything.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT BASHING RELIGION, THIS IS ABOUT HOW IT IS A FALLACY TO BELIEVE THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS FOUNDED ON GOD OR CHRISTIANITY OR ANY RELIGION
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Thomas Paine
and
Montesquieu
and John Locke
three examples (of which there are many more) of Enlightenment philosophers that had a large influence on the American independence movement, montesquieu.
Liberty, Religious Tolerance, Democracy, Republicanism all a large role in the American sphere of the enlightenment The colonists left europe to escape the social issues of Europe, such as absolutism, monarchy in general, and lack of freedom.
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, are undeniably Enlightenment ideals, and both play a key function in the constitution. Nowhere in the constitution does it mention christianity, jesus, god, or religion except to exclude it from playing a role in the government which is Secularism.
All these were radical ideals of that day, and off-springs of the scientific revolution, the age of reason, the enlightenment.
Separation of Church is State, is constitutional. This country was founded on the freedom of religion, but not on Christianity, nor any religion specifically.
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Yeah, because is something that really matters
And of course, religion "makes people stupid"....
grow up
sorry to burst your bubble but it is
at least most of the laws afterwords are leaning to Christianity
The USA is still predominantly Christian and it's not like the facebook group is particularly attempting to do anything to anyone
Technically, the first colonists were religious (Puritan, Quaker, etc.)
[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456241]Yeah, because is something that really matters
And of course, religion "makes people stupid"....
grow up[/QUOTE]
If it matters to those people to make a group like that, the OP is entitled to make one of his own.
Second of all, he never said religion makes people stupid, so great job at failing to read.
'Separation of Church and state' mean anything at all to you?
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I'm so tired of kids who are just coming to realize they don't believe in God so accuse everyone that does believe in God stupid. As for me I'm undecided
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;21456343][QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456241]Yeah, because is something that really matters
And of course, religion "makes people stupid"....
grow up[/QUOTE]
If it matters to those people to make a group like that, the OP is entitled to make one of his own.
Second of all, he never said religion makes people stupid, so great job at failing to read.
'Separation of Church and state' mean anything at all to you?[/QUOTE]
CAn't you examine my post ,nor read yours
He cleary has a "Religion hurr get pissed automatically" actitude
[QUOTE=tasty-man;21456356]I'm so tired of kids who are just coming to realize they don't believe in God so accuse everyone that does believe in God stupid. As for me I'm undecided[/QUOTE]
I know, they are just as bad as Christians who think that.
[QUOTE=Ama-zake;21456295]But the US [I]was[/I] founded under god or else it wouldn't say so in the fucking pledge of allegiance[/QUOTE]
The pledge of allegiance is not constitutional and has no bearing on the government or foundation of the country. It was written over a 100 years after the nation was founded.
Also I am not saying religion is stupid, or people who are in a religion are stupid, I am saying that it is dumb to believe this nation was founded on christianity, or any religion for that matter. The United States was founded upon freedom of religion, but set up that religion should not be involved in the government. This should be common knowledge.
[QUOTE=Ama-zake;21456295]But the US [i]was[/i] founded under god or else it wouldn't say so in the pledge of allegiance and also this country is still predominantly Christian[/QUOTE]
actually that was added by eisenhower
Leave people to their own beliefs. However, I am being a hypocrit here, so as an atheist, I think these guys are dumb.
You slept through history class, didn't you?
Yeah, get pissed because someone say it was funded "under god"
i don't live in the US :v: so i don't get those problems with retard people
[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456360]CAn't you examine my post ,nor read yours
He cleary has a "Religion hurr get pissed automatically" actitude[/QUOTE]
I examined your post fine, it was just poorly written and misinformed. "Religion hurr get pissed automatically" attitude? Not only was that not what you said before, but it isn't even in the ballpark.
Our laws are based upon the basic laws of Christianity.
[QUOTE=Ithae;21456390]Leave people to their own beliefs. However, I am being a hypocrit here, so as an atheist, I think these guys are dumb.[/QUOTE]
Atheist doesn't mean you have an enemyship with religious people, it means you CLEARY have denied god
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;21456421][QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456360]CAn't you examine my post ,nor read yours
He cleary has a "Religion hurr get pissed automatically" actitude[/QUOTE]
I examined your post fine, it was just poorly written and misinformed. "Religion hurr get pissed automatically" attitude? Not only was that not what you said before, but it isn't even in the ballpark.[/QUOTE]
Lecture comprension= -F
[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456241]Yeah, because is something that really matters
And of course, religion "makes people stupid"....
grow up[/QUOTE]
grow up says the man that makes alt accounts every day
[QUOTE=gaston;21456410]i don't live in the US :v: so i don't get those problems with retard people[/QUOTE]
That's a little mean, don't you think?
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[QUOTE=Hmn30;21456440]grow up says the man that makes alt accounts every day[/QUOTE]
i'm saying it too
do somethin
[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456432]Lecture comprension= -F[/QUOTE]
Are you 12? Do you always say uneducated things and never give an explanation?
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;21456423]Our laws are based upon the basic laws of Christianity.[/QUOTE]
Most of our laws our based on the ideals of the enlightenment, not christianity.
[QUOTE=jesseluver93;21456458]Most of our laws our based on the ideals of the enlightenment, not christianity.[/QUOTE]
You slept through history class yep
[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456432]Lecture comprension= -F[/QUOTE]
Spelling of the the word comprehension: F -
[QUOTE=Hmn30;21456440][QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456241]Yeah, because is something that really matters
And of course, religion "makes people stupid"....
grow up[/QUOTE]
grow up says the man that makes alt accounts every day[/QUOTE]
Yeah, says the one that just comes to this thread to pick on me, butthurt
[QUOTE=Kukuzi;21456457][QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456432]Lecture comprension= -F[/QUOTE]
Are you 12? Do you always say uneducated things and never give an explanation?[/QUOTE]
I'll give you an explanation, OP is clearly bashing religion in an inderect way
[QUOTE=Agoat;21456483]You slept through history class yep[/QUOTE]
No I didn't.
I am not bashing religion. I am religious. I just think that to believe that the U.S. was founded on Christianity is a fallacy.
[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21456507]Yeah, says the one that just comes to this thread to pick on me, butthurt
I'll give you an explanation, OP is clearly bashing religion in an inderect way[/QUOTE]
u mad
[QUOTE=jesseluver93;21456512]No I didn't.[/QUOTE]
So you're ignorant.
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