• Russia's Putin: "Snowden should stop NSA leaks" if he wants to remain in Moscow
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[quote]"Russia never hands over anybody anywhere and has no intention to do so," Mr Putin told a news conference in Moscow. ... "If he (Snowden) wants to remain here there is one condition - he should stop his work aimed at inflicting damage on our American partners [B]no matter how strange this may sound coming from me[/B]."[/quote] [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23135734"]Source[/URL]
I really like it when America and Russia cooperate. It's like a buddy cop movie on a global scale.
I wonder if Putin means it.
Could be difficult considering Julian Assange [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/30/us-usa-security-snowden-idUSBRE95T0CA20130630]says[/url] "Great care has been taken to make sure that Mr. Snowden can't be pressured by any state to stop the publication process."
[QUOTE] aimed at inflicting damage on our American partners no matter how strange this may sound coming from me[/QUOTE] I like how putin knows how fucked up it sounds coming from his mouth, but if he doesn't stop he may just get arrested or fined heavily
[quote]no matter how strange this may sound coming from me[/quote] Haha oh Putin
Doublespeak.
I'm ready to bet Snowden has some of Putin's dirty laundry as well.
Brb Ecuador...
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;41266542]I'm ready to bet Snowden has some of Putin's dirty laundry as well.[/QUOTE] Putin doesn't have dirty laundry. He openly endorses his dirty deeds as a reminder that people shouldn't try to fuck with him.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;41266542]I'm ready to bet Snowden has some of Putin's dirty laundry as well.[/QUOTE]It's more likely Snowdon has nothing interesting for Russia, and thus isn't worth damaged ties with the US.
He just doesn't want Snowden to be putin danger
First his dad and now Putin goddamn who will the nsa get to next?
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;41267092]It's more likely Snowdon has nothing interesting for Russia, and thus isn't worth damaged ties with the US.[/QUOTE] I find it very hard to believe that in four laptops full of classified information, Russia couldn't find anything interesting. The real question is whether he'll give it to them.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;41267513]First his dad and now Putin goddamn who will the nsa get to next?[/QUOTE] If the NSA got to Putin, it was probably just to get his autograph.
I think it's rather Putin wants the information solely for himself
Hasn't the information already been leaked?
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;41267841]Hasn't the information already been leaked?[/QUOTE] Assange was given all the info, So IDK what Putin is playing at.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;41267513]First his dad and now Putin goddamn who will the nsa get to next?[/QUOTE] His dog.
i get the feeling putin is simply paying lip service, he obviously doesn't give a shit what the US thinks or wants with snowden. this is probably just so he can say "we cooperated", also like some people said, he probably wants info.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41267580]I find it very hard to believe that in four laptops full of classified information, Russia couldn't find anything interesting. The real question is whether he'll give it to them.[/QUOTE] Everything is going to be leaked according to what Assange said so whether or not there's anything worth for Russia, Russia can just wait for the leaks instead of holding Snowden for information that will be leaked soon anyway and damage relations with the US in the process.
Looks like he might get putout I'm sorry.
I think he's Putin us on.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41267580]I find it very hard to believe that in four laptops full of classified information, Russia couldn't find anything interesting. The real question is whether he'll give it to them.[/QUOTE] Anyone who knows even a bit about computers would encrypt them, and the technology to break common disk encryption doesn't exist. [editline]edit[/editline] Sorry, bad reading.
It's understandable that Putin would say it. At this point it might start looking like Snowden is actually involve in espionage to some people, since he'a in Russsia leaking state secrets, and Putin just wants to reassure people that's not the case, whether he follows through with it is a different story.
Yeah if Russia is harboring Snowden while he's divulging secrets it might end up triggering another cold war.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41267580]I find it very hard to believe that in four laptops full of classified information, Russia couldn't find anything interesting. The real question is whether he'll give it to them.[/QUOTE]He was a contractor for a specific sort of program, namely NSA's data mining, which just collected data from public sites and services. Seems unlikely he'd have access to programs that'd really interest Russia e.g. any sort of CIA espionage. Although, if the US government does, in fact, use contractors for something that ridiculously sensitive like spying on the inner workings of world governments and militaries, they deserve a moron of the century commemorative golden bowl of turds.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;41277727]He was a contractor for a specific sort of program, namely NSA's data mining, which just collected data from public sites and services. Seems unlikely he'd have access to programs that'd really interest Russia e.g. any sort of CIA espionage. Although, if the US government does, in fact, use contractors for something that ridiculously sensitive like spying on the inner workings of world governments and militaries, they deserve a moron of the century commemorative golden bowl of turds.[/QUOTE] You do realise some defense contractors are expected to retain levels of secrecy on-par with intelligence agencies, right? Hell, Lockheed has had people working in Area 51 since the 1950's, on several projects that could have then seriously jeopardized national defense if the USSR got info on them.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;41278025]You do realise some defense contractors are expected to retain levels of secrecy on-par with intelligence agencies, right? Hell, Lockheed has had people working in Area 51 since the 1950's, on several projects that could have then seriously jeopardized national defense if the USSR got info on them.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I get they'd have to hire contractors for engineering projects, but I meant actual espionage. In those cases that they'd need some sort of computer program, I would've thought it more sensible they hire some bloke to make whatever they need, and simply not tell them what they need it for. But yeah, hadn't occurred to me at the time of posting that Russia would equally be interested in the US military's new toys rather than just where the US has spies and what they're doing.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;41277727]He was a contractor for a specific sort of program, namely NSA's data mining, which just collected data from public sites and services. Seems unlikely he'd have access to programs that'd really interest Russia e.g. any sort of CIA espionage. Although, if the US government does, in fact, use contractors for something that ridiculously sensitive like spying on the inner workings of world governments and militaries, they deserve a moron of the century commemorative golden bowl of turds.[/QUOTE] He had a Top Secret clearance, which being only short of SCI access would give him access to extremely sensitive information. And contractors work at all levels of clearance in the US defense industry, I know a few contractors with intelligence agencies who have the same level of clearance as any employee there. Contractors are given access to all the same information, are subject to the same scrutiny, and are expected to maintain the same level of security. In fact, a lot of contractors are private contractors who technically work for themselves. There isn't a meaningful distinction between contractors and employees in many cases. He brought a lot of info with him and at this point it's safe to say that not all of it is PRISM whistleblowing.
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