4 Days Ago, NYS Passed An Important Law (Donate Your Organs Bro)
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[url]http://westchester.news12.com/news/l...oday-1.6188082[/url]
[url]http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/10/...-organ-donors/[/url]
[quote=source2]The new law, which will take effect in one year, will require anyone over the age of 18 getting a new driver’s license to answer whether they would like to join the state’s donor list. The question is currently optional.[/quote]
From someone who signed up to donate everything, It's nice to know even though my state likes to pass half-assed laws, We can put together something good. This Law didn't get much coverage but I'm dying to get the statistics in two years of the difference it made in organ donations.
I wish they did this everywhere. My dad got a organ donorship card thing for us years back where we could sign and put it in our wallets so if anything ever happens to us we at least ensure our organs get donated (and declare what organs we'd like to 'keep')
It was pretty easy to miss these cards, though, so I don't think they do much to combat the general problem of donations. Hope this will be successful!
This is great!
I'm currently enrolled in a healthcare course and had a speaker stop by to remind us about donating organs and how nobody really knows about it in our area.
Having it mandatory (I assume it's mandatory because it says it's required) to fill out something like this is definitely a step in the right direction.
should be mandatory with an opt-out if you want to
i don't see the point in not being signed up to this though
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42441801]should be mandatory with an opt-out if you want to
i don't see the point in not being signed up to this though[/QUOTE]
I agree, but at least this is some sort of progress. Making it easily accessible to opt in should increase numbers.
Wait, other states [I]don't[/I] do this? We have this in Georgia, I thought it was just kinda... a thing that everyone did.
I had to answer that question in Texas, too. Didn't think it was a thing that wasn't normal. Huh.
(I'm a donor)
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42441801]should be mandatory with an opt-out if you want to
i don't see the point in not being signed up to this though[/QUOTE]
You cant force that people donate their bodies. That'd be forcing people to volunteer...
I'm not a organ donor because I have it stated in my will that my body be donated to science
you're asked on your VA drivers license application form
i elected to not be a donor because i'm a selfish fuck
i might see when I get my provisional licence next month what are the steps to make me a donor in Queensland
I want my body and everything in it to be donated to a body farm.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42441801]should be mandatory with an opt-out if you want to
i don't see the point in not being signed up to this though[/QUOTE]
Nah. I think parents should decide what to do if you die. And then when you get your license youre forced to pick either way.
[QUOTE=Dah-thla;42442019]I want my body and everything in it to be donated to a body farm.[/QUOTE]
I'd buy your body for "scientific" purposes
[QUOTE=areolop;42441953]You cant force that people donate their bodies. That'd be forcing people to volunteer...
I'm not a organ donor because I have it stated in my will that my body be donated to science[/QUOTE]
"Mandatory with an opt-out" is not forcing in any way.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;42442082]"Mandatory with an opt-out" is not forcing in any way.[/QUOTE]
But will everyone know theyre opted in, and know how they get out? We can't be sure, and they shouldn't have to go out of their way to get out of it.
I want my body to be eaten by fauna just like I've eaten fauna all my life.
Donating scares me.
[QUOTE=dbk21894;42441986]you're asked on your VA drivers license application form
i elected to not be a donor because i'm a selfish fuck[/QUOTE]
some nut in one of my classes went on a rant about how hospitals will let organ donors die in order to harvest their organs
you sure you don't just have some stupid paranoia like that?
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42442108]But will everyone know theyre opted in, and know how they get out? We can't be sure, and they shouldn't have to go out of their way to get out of it.[/QUOTE]
I'm bias in this situation so take my opinion with a pinch of salt but serious. If we made this law so you had to check the box to opt out not only would it increase organ donations but give you a small lesson in reading everything your going to sign in life.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42442108]But will everyone know theyre opted in, and know how they get out? We can't be sure, and they shouldn't have to go out of their way to get out of it.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they should actually read what they are filling in so they see the "opt-out" checkbox? Blaming the system or accusing it of "forcing" people to donate when there is an opt-out that you can easily check is fucking stupid. The document would have to explain that by not checking the box you are assumed to be opt-in.
I heard some strange stories from a EMT concerning organ donors in serious car accidents. Apparently, if you aren't likely to make it from an accident then they let you die so that your organs can be harvested.
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;42442247]I heard some strange stories from a EMT concerning organ donors in serious car accidents. Apparently, if you aren't likely to make it from an accident then they let you die so that your organs can be harvested.[/QUOTE]
?????
[QUOTE=DeathRocks;42442247]I heard some strange stories from a EMT concerning organ donors in serious car accidents. Apparently, if you aren't likely to make it from an accident then they let you die so that your organs can be harvested.[/QUOTE]
Came here to post exactly this. My family knows that if I were to die, I would want my orgas donated, but I'm not putting it on my license for this reason. I've heard it from many different places that try are more likely to let you die to get your organs.
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;42442315]Came here to post exactly this. My family knows that if I were to die, I would want my orgas donated, but I'm not putting it on my license for this reason. I've heard it from many different places that try are more likely to let you die to get your organs.[/QUOTE]
Got any scientific/medical journal studies to back this up, or is this pure speculation and anecdotes, combined with an unhealthy dose of paranoia?
Your choice to donate does not affect the treatment you receive at all, and I find it hard to believe that there is a huge, incredibly well-kept secret nationwide conspiracy to deprive donors of treatment in the hopes of getting more organs.
Looking up "ICU nurses’ perceptions of responsibilities and organisation in relation to organ donation—A phenomenographic study" in Intensive & Critical Care Nursing 2011, vol 27, issue 6, p 305 onwards it indicates that brain death is confirmed by clinical examination, before donation takes place.
[QUOTE=Harpie;42442119]I want my body to be eaten by fauna just like I've eaten fauna all my life.
Donating scares me.[/QUOTE]I regret adding two statements, I don't know which one people are agreeing with.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;42442407]Got any scientific/medical journal studies to back this up, or is this pure speculation and anecdotes, combined with an unhealthy dose of paranoia?
Your choice to donate does not affect the treatment you receive at all, and I find it hard to believe that there is a huge, incredibly well-kept secret nationwide conspiracy to deprive donors of treatment in the hopes of getting more organs.[/QUOTE]
Why does it have to be an organized, nation-wide conspiracy when it's perfectly plausible it's only a handful of individual cases where paramedics, doing so on their own accord, did that in believing they were doing the right thing?
I plan on killing all my organs when I die :wink:
[QUOTE=Harpie;42442417]I regret adding two statements, I don't know which one people are agreeing with.[/QUOTE]
I rated agree to the latter statement.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42442495]Why does it have to be an organized, nation-wide conspiracy when it's perfectly plausible it's only a handful of individual cases where paramedics, doing so on their own accord, did that in believing they were doing the right thing?[/QUOTE]
Because the body would have to be taken to a hospital for the donation, where oddities would likely be noticed. In addition to that, the paramedics and EMTs are going to be hooked up to responders and reporting info back.
The paramedics first priority is to stabilise and get to hospital, I highly doubt that they check if he's a donor until they've got the more pressing issues out of the way.
Bear in mind that this would be a total breach of medical ethics, and you'd need every member of the ambulance crew, in addition to whoever else is trained in emergency medicine on site to be in on the event to pull off not treating properly, and that a single call of malpractise would bring a mountain of inspection on the case. I could understand maybe it happening one or two times per thousand, but I find it hard to believe that it is anywhere near systematic enough to be a concern large enough for someone to refuse to put their name on the registry, especially considering the fact that many donors do not bother putting their names on the lists, and are thus never actually used as donors.
[QUOTE=Terminutter;42442544]Because the body would have to be taken to a hospital for the donation, where oddities would likely be noticed. In addition to that, the paramedics and EMTs are going to be hooked up to responders and reporting info back.
The paramedics first priority is to stabilise and get to hospital, I highly doubt that they check if he's a donor until they've got the more pressing issues out of the way.[/QUOTE]
"oddities likely to be noticed" sounds ambiguous and based on random chance.
I'm not saying this happens nor it happens often. Just only that it's plausible it can happen.
I'll admit that it is possible that it could happen, but you would basically need a concentrated effort on the part of the paramedics, both of whom would lack any kind of integrity or ethics to do such a thing, the ignorance of any other responders on site, some lies about the patients exact situation to dispatch, and them to check up if he is an organ donor before that. I was basically talking about the guy refusing to put his name on the list because he believes it is possible - it's so astronomically unlikely that it would happen that it strikes me as foolish to not sign up.
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