• what graphic card is better?
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next month im planning on buying a new video card, maybe you guys can tell me which one is better: GTX 650Ti OC 1GB GTX 750 TwinRazor OC 1GB R7 260X OC 2GB I heard ATI got real problems with their drivers, is it true? this is my pc for now: Intel Core i5 3570 @ 3.40GHz MB: ASUS P8Z77-M 2x4GB DDR3 Dual Channel @ 812.1 MHz G.Skill ASUS 295 GTX PSU: HuntKey APFC 700
Get the 1.18ghz EVGA 750ti for $150.
Get a Radeon HD 7850. They go for 150 on Ebay. A 7850 is more powerful than everything you listed. Also, 2GBs of VRAM.
ATI usually has no acceleration for Linux, as there are only open drivers available. Keep that in mind. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] I also noticed that your PSU only pumps 700. Gotta be careful with the new cards. Nowadays people get kilowatt (1000) PSUs and up. As for my choice, I would actually get the NVidia. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] 650Ti* should do it
[QUOTE=Dark.Lord;44688286]I heard ATI got real problems with their drivers, is it true?[/QUOTE] I wouldn't really say there's much of a problem with AMD's drivers, but I personally feel like their driver updates don't really change anything in terms of performance, at least in the games I typically play (AssCreed, Skyrim, Mass Effect, Valve games). Since you already have an Nvidia card installed, I'd recommend you stick with their GPUs so you won't have to go through the hassle of uninstalling those video drivers and installing AMD's if you switched to one of their cards. Definitely go with the [url=www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024]EVGA GTX 750 Ti 2GB[/url] if you can afford it. It'll play most games at 1080p with medium/medium-high settings, and it'll definitely tide you over until you can get something much better.
[QUOTE=KDelta007;44690622]ATI usually has no acceleration for Linux, as there are only open drivers available. Keep that in mind. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] I also noticed that your PSU only pumps 700. Gotta be careful with the new cards. Nowadays people get kilowatt (1000) PSUs and up. As for my choice, I would actually get the NVidia. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] 650Ti* should do it[/QUOTE] "Your PSU only pumps 700"? What? A 700w psu can power any single gpu card out there and is way more power than what he needs. A 500 would be more than enough.
[QUOTE=KDelta007;44690622]ATI usually has no acceleration for Linux, as there are only open drivers available. Keep that in mind.[/QUOTE] Do you even use Linux? ATI has had proprietary drivers available for well over a decade for Linux. Even if you don't use the proprietary drivers, the OSS drivers still offer decent 3D performance. [QUOTE=KDelta007;44690622]I also noticed that your PSU only pumps 700. Gotta be careful with the new cards. Nowadays people get kilowatt (1000) PSUs and up. As for my choice, I would actually get the NVidia.[/QUOTE] Scratch Linux, I don't think you've ever built a computer before.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44689603]Get the 1.18ghz EVGA 750ti for $150.[/QUOTE] there is 17$ difference between the 1.02Ghz and 1.17Ghz versions, i dont think it worth it... to pay 17$ just to get a tiny little bit more Ghz which i probably wont even feel in game... also i can get R7 260X for the same price so the question now... gtx750Ti or R7 260X OC?
The GTX 750 Ti is a bit faster than the R7 260X. And avoid buying the OC versions of cards, you usually pay more for something you can easily do yourself.
I'm not sure which one you're looking at? The MSI? All the prices on the EVGA are the same regardless of the stock speed.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44693473]I'm not sure which one you're looking at? The MSI? All the prices on the EVGA are the same regardless of the stock speed.[/QUOTE] im not buying it from ebay...
[QUOTE=Dark.Lord;44694426]im not buying it from ebay...[/QUOTE] [url]http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=164&sort=d5[/url] If you have $160 to spend though you could get a 270
[QUOTE=Original User;44690405]Get a Radeon HD 7850. They go for 150 on Ebay. A 7850 is more powerful than everything you listed. Also, 2GBs of VRAM.[/QUOTE] No it definitely isnt. [QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;44690661]I wouldn't really say there's much of a problem with AMD's drivers, but I personally feel like their driver updates don't really change anything in terms of performance, at least in the games I typically play (AssCreed, Skyrim, Mass Effect, Valve games). Since you already have an Nvidia card installed, I'd recommend you stick with their GPUs so you won't have to go through the hassle of uninstalling those video drivers and installing AMD's if you switched to one of their cards. Definitely go with the [url=www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024]EVGA GTX 750 Ti 2GB[/url] if you can afford it. It'll play most games at 1080p with medium/medium-high settings, and it'll definitely tide you over until you can get something much better.[/QUOTE] AMD on Linux works like shit. Dont give advice over stuff you dont know.
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44694660][url]http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=164&sort=d5[/url] If you have $160 to spend though you could get a 270[/QUOTE] well i dont know about this site, [URL="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-SuperClocked-2GB-Graphics-Card-PCI-E-DVI-HDMI-750ti-/201072739476?pt=UK_Computing_Computer_Components_Graphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item2ed0de8494"]but ebay.uk offers the 270Ti Superclocked with shipment for 155 pounds[/URL], while i can buy this card at a local store for 140 pounds. but still i dont think it worth it, the norma gtx750Ti costs 130 pounds, to pay 10 more pounds just for the additional 100Mhz core clock im not sure it worth it
You should have probably mentioned what country you're from. The 750ti is 120 pounds for the 1.18ghz version [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=164&sort=d5[/url] If you have a bit more buy a 270 instead for 130 pounds [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GNE0CHI/?tag=pcp0f-21[/url]
[QUOTE=taipan;44696069]AMD on Linux works like shit. Dont give advice over stuff you dont know.[/QUOTE] Uh... I was telling him to get an Nvidia card and not an AMD card. Did you actually bother to read my post?
[QUOTE=Lilyo;44696155]You should have probably mentioned what country you're from. The 750ti is 120 pounds for the 1.18ghz version [url]http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=164&sort=d5[/url] If you have a bit more buy a 270 instead for 130 pounds [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GNE0CHI/?tag=pcp0f-21[/url][/QUOTE] See my nick on the left side? <---- now look bellow it, a little bit more... you will see some icons, my OS.. my internet browser... and the country i live in... most sellers take up to 20 pounds (from the uk) for express delivery to my country
[QUOTE=Dark.Lord;44696289]See my nick on the left side? <---- now look bellow it, a little bit more... you will see some icons, my OS.. my internet browser... and the country i live in... most sellers take up to 20 pounds (from the uk) for express delivery to my country[/QUOTE] Bit of a stretch, but I don't suppose there are any electronics retailers within Israel, are there? I'm not familiar with the currency used in your country.
[QUOTE=Dark.Lord;44696289]See my nick on the left side? <---- now look bellow it, a little bit more... you will see some icons, my OS.. my internet browser... and the country i live in... most sellers take up to 20 pounds (from the uk) for express delivery to my country[/QUOTE] Flagdog didn't work for OP
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;44696321]Bit of a stretch, but I don't suppose there are any electronics retailers within Israel, are there? I'm not familiar with the currency used in your country.[/QUOTE] Israel imports a 90% of its market, so while it is cheaper in UK or US, the postage price usually makes it not worthy... [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] hey guys i just did some research on [URL="http://techreport.com/review/25473/amd-radeon-r7-260x-graphics-card-reviewed/3"]R7 260X[/URL] Vs [URL="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-10.html"]GTX 750 Ti[/URL] it appears that the R7 260X is WAY cheaper but a little bit stronger then the gtx 750Ti... so? should i maybe go with the R7 260X?
[QUOTE=Dark.Lord;44696543]Israel imports a 90% of its market, so while it is cheaper in UK or US, the postage price usually makes it not worthy... [editline]1st May 2014[/editline] hey guys i just did some research on [URL="http://techreport.com/review/25473/amd-radeon-r7-260x-graphics-card-reviewed/3"]R7 260X[/URL] Vs [URL="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-10.html"]GTX 750 Ti[/URL] it appears that the R7 260X is WAY cheaper but a little bit stronger then the gtx 750Ti... so? should i maybe go with the R7 260X?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-maxwell-graphics-processor"]Techreport's 750Ti comparison[/URL] to the 260X shows that it's better than the 260X, using the review that only checks the 260X is silly, and the second link also shows that the 750Ti is better. What is the price difference between the two?
Anyone who says AMD has driver problems is a fucking Nvidiot. Never, EVER have a had a single driver problem on AMD cards. So far in my computer life ive owned a radeon 9550 radeon hd 3850 gtx 550ti 2xgtx550ti radeon hd 6970 radeon hd 7970 radeon hd 7970+r9-280x See the pattern? Although i really enjoyed the Nvidia cards, with the shutter glasses and all that jazz, i had loads of driver problems. Some played minecraft while totally effing up in mafia 2. Some ran crysis 2 spectacularly while not playing minecraft whatsoever, while also filling other random games with lots of graphical glitches. This is whats left over of the many versions of Nvidia drivers i had to go through. [IMG]http://puu.sh/8vrKF.png[/IMG] Buy AMD
[QUOTE=ricky23;44699119]Anyone who says AMD has driver problems is a fucking Nvidiot.[/QUOTE] No, ATI/AMD drivers have always been awful. I've been using ATI GPUs since the mid 90s and never has there been a period in time where there wasn't some bizarre problem with their drivers. And every last one of these cards has [I]terrible[/I] OpenGL support. I've owned these ATI cards: Mach series: Mach 64 RAGE series: 3D RAGE II, Rage XL, Rage Pro, Rage 128 Pro, AIW 128, AIW 128 Pro Radeon 7 series: Radeon 7000, Radeon 7500 Radeon 9 series: Radeon 9000, Radeon 9200, Radeon 9550, Radeon 9600, Radeon 9800, Radeon 9800 Pro Radeon X series: x300 (4), X800 GTO, x1300 (2), AIW x1900 Radeon HD series: HD2400, HD3450, HD4650, HD4850, HD5870, HD7970 (2) Radeon Rx series: R7 240, R9 280x If they have such garbage drivers, why do I keep buying them you ask? because they're more often than not cheaper than Nvidia, use less power and produce less heat. I've bought and used Nvidia cards too, but my collection is much smaller and I've given most of them away. The only three Nvidia cards I have in service now are an 8600GT, 8800GTS G92 and a GTS250.
[QUOTE=ricky23;44699119] Nvidiot. [/QUOTE] Anyone that uses that term, I automatically infer they are an egotistical fanboy. Just stop.
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44700142]No, ATI/AMD drivers have always been awful. *cue long post*[/QUOTE] I can attest to this. The recent 14.4 driver update for notebook GPUs completely removed the audio tab from the Catalyst Control Center and uninstalled my AMD High Definition Audio Device program, meaning if I want to connect my laptop to my television via HDMI, I have to use the laptop speakers to hear sounds (or try some really hacky solution I recently read in a thread I made about the problem. Haven't had the chance to try it out yet, I've been busy the past few hours). I can agree that heat is a big issue too, but this may just be because I'm using a laptop. My temperatures never go below 70C when doing something simple like watching a YouTube video. Hell, even if I minimize all of my programs and just stare at my desktop, it idles around 60C. Even playing a game with older graphics like Half-Life 2 heats it up to 85C, and all of these readings have been measured while I have my cooling pad plugged in and its fan speed ramped up to the highest. I really regret not convincing my Dad to look into cheap laptops with Intel and Nvidia components (this was a high school graduation gift, would never have been able to get it otherwise), but the reason we picked this one was because it was just $500 and the least expensive laptop with an Nvidia GPU was somewhere between $650 and $800. It still does what it's meant to do, just in a highly inefficient way. [b]TL;DR - AMD is only a viable choice if you're poor.[/b]
Laptops with beefy GPUs have always had heat issues. But if you've had your laptop for awhile, the heatsink may be clogged up from the inside due to the things having tiny and closely spaced together fins. I don't recommend laptops with Nvidia GPUs, I get tons of them in my repair business where the GPU desoldered itself from the motherboard from extreme overheating, or had failed BGA joints from heat or defective solder/soldering when the PCB was manufactured. I recently bought a Dell latitude D620 from a second hand store for [B]$8[/B] that among other problems, the GPU had desoldered itself. A good reflow got it working again, it turned out to be a Quadro NVS 110M (Geforce Go 7300.) The poor scrub that gave it to the store put a note in it with this massive $700 price tag for replacing everything on the laptop.
[QUOTE=RandomGamer342;44698458][URL="http://techreport.com/review/26050/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-maxwell-graphics-processor"]Techreport's 750Ti comparison[/URL] to the 260X shows that it's better than the 260X, using the review that only checks the 260X is silly, and the second link also shows that the 750Ti is better. What is the price difference between the two?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;fKy5ctjixaY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy5ctjixaY[/video] as you can see its on avarage of 5fpd differance, while on other games there is bearly any diffrance at all. r7 260x 2gb costs: 200$ GTX 750 Ti 2gb costs: 221$ so im not sure that to pay additional 21 dollars for 5 fps (on some games) is worth it P.S also the R7 graphics looks a bit better (at least in this video)
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;44701200]Laptops with beefy GPUs have always had heat issues. But if you've had your laptop for awhile, the heatsink may be clogged up from the inside due to the things having tiny and closely spaced together fins. I don't recommend laptops with Nvidia GPUs, I get tons of them in my repair business where the GPU desoldered itself from the motherboard from extreme overheating, or had failed BGA joints from heat or defective solder/soldering when the PCB was manufactured. I recently bought a Dell latitude D620 from a second hand store for [B]$8[/B] that among other problems, the GPU had desoldered itself. A good reflow got it working again, it turned out to be a Quadro NVS 110M (Geforce Go 7300.) The poor scrub that gave it to the store put a note in it with this massive $700 price tag for replacing everything on the laptop.[/QUOTE] Well I would've loved to buy the parts for a cheap, but decently strong mini-ITX build, but I needed something mobile for college, and I really don't like to use smartphones or tablets. And I needed something to replace my dying prebuilt desktop from like 2006. This was the first thing I jumped on. In retrospect, it wasn't my brightest idea. [editline]2nd May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Dark.Lord;44701883][video=youtube;fKy5ctjixaY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKy5ctjixaY[/video] as you can see its on avarage of 5fpd differance, while on other games there is bearly any diffrance at all. r7 260x 2gb costs: 200$ GTX 750 Ti 2gb costs: 221$ so im not sure that to pay additional 21 dollars for 5 fps (on some games) is worth it P.S also the R7 graphics looks a bit better (at least in this video)[/QUOTE] Not only is the GTX 750 Ti a little more powerful, it also draws maybe half the power from your PSU that the R7 260X does. This means it won't be heating up as much as the AMD card either, so it will have a longer lifespan. The extra $21 is worth it in the long run.
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