[quote]Sen. Marco Rubio said Saturday that he doesn’t believe a pregnant woman infected with the Zika virus should have the right to an abortion — even if she had reason to believe the child would be born with severe microcephaly.
"I understand a lot of people disagree with my view – but I believe that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws. And when you present it in the context of Zika or any prenatal condition, it’s a difficult question and a hard one," Rubio told POLITICO.
But if I’m going to err, I’m going to err on the side of life."
Rubio has taken a leadership role in trying to prevent the spread of Zika. He became the first Republican to co-sponsor President Obama’s $1.9 billion Zika-fighting legislation, which was watered down by House Republicans after it passed the Senate. The legislation ultimately failed. Rubio points out that he voted for every Zika bill he could.[/quote]
SOURCE: [url]http://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2016/08/rubio-no-abortions-for-zika-infected-women-104555[/url]
what a dumbass tbh
but at least he's supporting the stopping it so
Please abort your fucking Zika babies. We don't want to have to deal with that shit
Yes, it's TOTALLY ethical and sensible to support letting babies who will have deformed heads, an extremely low level of intelligence, and a horribly bad quality of life be born!
i just dont understand these guys
i understand pro-life, but they don't act like life matters after the baby is born
they'll fight tooth-and-nail for the unborn which i understand morally, they believe life is sacred. fine
but they dont support sex education & contraceptions that stops abortions happening in the first place
they're against expanding social services or supports reducing government subsidized programs for the poor or deformed to help take care of them
they're pro-birth, they pretend to care about a woman's child until they're born and tell them to fuck off
its like me forcing a fire to be started in someone's home but taking away their extinguishers, fire alarms, and insurance
Force women to have a fucked up deformed baby who will be a drain on the mother emotionally and a drain on the country financially, and poor quality of life for the child.
Genius
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50842658]i just dont understand these guys
i understand pro-life, but they don't act like life matters after the baby is born
they'll fight tooth-and-nail for the unborn which i understand morally, they believe life is sacred. fine
but they dont support sex education & contraceptions that stops abortions happening in the first place
they're against expanding social services or supports reducing government subsidized programs for the poor or deformed to help take care of them
they're pro-birth, they pretend to care about a woman's child until they're born and tell them to fuck off
its like me forcing a fire to be started in someone's home but taking away their extinguishers, fire alarms, and insurance[/QUOTE]
while i don't agree with anti-abortion rhetoric, i entirely understand their point of view
in short, think of it as if they see killing the baby inside the womb exactly the same as killing it outside of the womb. now imagine killing an alive infant-- or, even, an alive [I]person[/I] simply because they have a disease.
i get where they're coming from. i just disagree with it-- primarily because i don't think human life is as precious as they make it out to be, and would quite honestly much rather have the benefits of a pro-choice country.
religious person with an opinion and no way to enforce that opinion states his opinion
[QUOTE]"Obviously, microcephaly is a terrible prenatal condition that kids are born with. And when they are, it’s a lifetime of difficulties," he said. "So I get it. I’m not pretending to you that that’s an easy question you asked me. But I’m prolife. And I’m strongly prolife. I believe all human life should be protected by our law, irrespective of the circumstances or condition of that life."
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Seriously, how low do these people have to go to write an article? Rubio has worked to stop Zika from spreading and just because he has a pro life opinion on abortion doesn't mean that all abortions are automatically illegal in florida now.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50842658]i just dont understand these guys
i understand pro-life, but they don't act like life matters after the baby is born
they'll fight tooth-and-nail for the unborn which i understand morally, they believe life is sacred. fine
but they dont support sex education & contraceptions that stops abortions happening in the first place
they're against expanding social services or supports reducing government subsidized programs for the poor or deformed to help take care of them
they're pro-birth, they pretend to care about a woman's child until they're born and tell them to fuck off
its like me forcing a fire to be started in someone's home but taking away their extinguishers, fire alarms, and insurance[/QUOTE]
cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing
IMO it's incredible how the modern religious conservative has been taught to so circumstantially care about human life. It seems to me that in those people's minds as soon as a person is born they go from being precious and perfect entity to a potential nonbeliever; everything about their worth hinges on whether or not their worldview is agreeable to these nutjobs.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;50842721]cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing
IMO it's incredible how the modern religious conservative has been taught to so circumstantially care about human life. It seems to me that in those people's minds as soon as a person is born they go from being precious and perfect entity to a potential nonbeliever; everything about their worth hinges on whether or not their worldview is agreeable to these nutjobs.[/QUOTE]
I find it funny how Rubio supports capital punishment, yet at the same time says "I believe that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws".
He wants to take a burden off of society by killing violent criminals, but at the same time doesn't want to take a burden off of a mother by allowing her to abort a Zika pregnancy.
I'm pro-life for those who, when born, would only hope to one day experience the sweet release of death.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50842658]i just dont understand these guys
i understand pro-life, but they don't act like life matters after the baby is born
they'll fight tooth-and-nail for the unborn which i understand morally, they believe life is sacred. fine
but they dont support sex education & contraceptions that stops abortions happening in the first place
they're against expanding social services or supports reducing government subsidized programs for the poor or deformed to help take care of them
they're pro-birth, they pretend to care about a woman's child until they're born and tell them to fuck off
its like me forcing a fire to be started in someone's home but taking away their extinguishers, fire alarms, and insurance[/QUOTE]
This is what confuses me. A lot of people I see are pro-life, yet when condoms and sex-ed are mentioned they go nuts. It's like the opposite you could do for a cause that supports life. Heck, Robot Chicken made fun of that in the skit "Fruity Fables."
[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50842726]I find it funny how Rubio supports capital punishment, yet at the same time says "I believe that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws".
He wants to take a burden off of society by killing violent criminals, but at the same time doesn't want to take a burden off of a mother by allowing her to abort a Zika pregnancy.[/QUOTE]
Yep exactly, bc people like him want others to bear the punishment for their "mistakes". It makes perfect sense if you're a misanthropic piece of garbo!
Ban abortion and people will do it illegally or abandon unwanted kids.
[QUOTE=Monkah;50842673]while i don't agree with anti-abortion rhetoric, i entirely understand their point of view
in short, think of it as if they see killing the baby inside the womb exactly the same as killing it outside of the womb. now imagine killing an alive infant-- or, even, an alive [I]person[/I] simply because they have a disease.
i get where they're coming from. i just disagree with it-- primarily because i don't think human life is as precious as they make it out to be, and would quite honestly much rather have the benefits of a pro-choice country.[/QUOTE]
They see all unborn babies as just as willing of rights the same as a baby that has been born, I understand and can empathize with their sentiment, even if I disagree with it.
What I fail to understand is that, while they're incredibly protective of unborn babies, the moment it's born, they don't care. They decry 'welfare queens' and want to cut social welfare programs, such as medicaid, or food stamps, which are incredibly helpful for families poor families with children, and are quick to cut the education budget that was going to be used to educate these children with. Perhaps they care simply that the baby has a right to exist, but they couldn't care less if the child is languishing in poverty.
So does he also plan on helping with all the additional support these mothers will need bringing up a child with a severe disability.
I might take the pro life argument a little more seriously if they continued to give such a shit after the child was actually born.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50842658]i just dont understand these guys
i understand pro-life, but they don't act like life matters after the baby is born
they'll fight tooth-and-nail for the unborn which i understand morally, they believe life is sacred. fine
but they dont support sex education & contraceptions that stops abortions happening in the first place
they're against expanding social services or supports reducing government subsidized programs for the poor or deformed to help take care of them
they're pro-birth, they pretend to care about a woman's child until they're born and tell them to fuck off
its like me forcing a fire to be started in someone's home but taking away their extinguishers, fire alarms, and insurance[/QUOTE]
Do you watch George Carlin by any chance?
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM[/media]
Okay. You can help take care of them then. It'll be expensive, time-consuming, and stressful. But I mean hey, if you care so much about the "sanctity" of life and honestly believe that these women should have to give birth to severely handicapped children, then surely you won't have any qualms about pitching in and helping them out with raising those kids, right? It's the Christian thing to do after all.
Oh wait, you people never do help them out. You attack public assistance and social services, you contribute nothing worthwhile to charity organizations (which are not equipped in any case to deal with serious, widespread problems like this), you push this bullshit religious narrative about why it's "immoral" to allow things like abortion and sex education-- yet you've made a shitload of money as a Congressman, you and your wife have shat out four kids, you live with your family in a nicer home than most of us do and have tried to play this down by claiming "it's a working class neighborhood"...
What a tedious fuckwit. Rubio's completely unworthy of being a senator, much less an American citizen.
[QUOTE]"I believe that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws."[/QUOTE]
Yeah, until they crawl out of the womb, right?
[QUOTE]I believe that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I think when it [I]does not have a fucking brain[/I] you can't really call it a human being.
*snip*
[QUOTE]"I believe that all human life is worthy of protection of our laws."[/QUOTE]
Republicans are such hypocritical fuckwits.
Sure, they won't let women abort children that are going to be born with severe health problems, deformities or disabilities, because they claim that life's so damn precious, but do they support nationalized health insurance for these people as they live with said disability? Do they support social security, free education, and all the other things that every civilized nation requires and that are necessary for every person to live with dignity? No? Fuck 'em.
[quote]"But if I’m going to err, I’m going to err on the side of life."[/quote]
I can see why he sympathizes with the brainless meatbags, he's brainless himself.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50842678]religious person with an opinion and no way to enforce that opinion states his opinion
Seriously, how low do these people have to go to write an article? Rubio has worked to stop Zika from spreading and just because he has a pro life opinion on abortion doesn't mean that all abortions are automatically illegal in florida now.[/QUOTE]
He can't enforce his opinion but he is running for Congress which would make him capable of writing and voting for legislation that could be enforced down the road.
Also yeah it's a news story about his opinion and people are reacting to it because his opinion is hypocritical and stupid. Welcome to SH??
My sister was born severely physically and mentally disabled, ever since she was born my family has had to adapt to care for her. For 16 years and counting my mom has gone through so much for my sister's needs, daily caretaking, hospital and doctor visits, nursing and homeschooling, she's basically the manager of a job that has no time off. It's definitely not something just anyone can do, especially if you lack the caring and attentive nature that is required, hell, some nurses aren't even fit for the job.
It kills me that some piece of trash who has no experience raising disabled kids is going to point at suffering families and say "Nah that child is a blessing, you will raise it, because of the [I]sanctity of life[/I]."
rubio is a fucking idiot and i hope his politcal career never recovers
Maybe if we could find a way to baptize the fetus (circumventing 'born into sin') he wouldn't be so stubborn minded. :downs:
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50842678]religious person with an opinion and no way to enforce that opinion states his opinion
Seriously, how low do these people have to go to write an article? Rubio has worked to stop Zika from spreading and just because he has a pro life opinion on abortion doesn't mean that all abortions are automatically illegal in florida now.[/QUOTE]
his views are reflective of the republican governor and legislature which has run afoul of abortion protections before. while hr acknowledges that microcephaly will take more money to care for he has worked tirelessly to dismantle the government healthcare that these children would no doubt need and further he is running for senator and will probably run for florida govenor at some point
so his views are sort of important
Can the next president outlaw politicians with outdated religious views from holding office?
I'm all for Jesus and saving babies, but if the kid is going to clearly have a crippling deformity, you're just doing more harm than good to more people.
I honestly think that people shouldn't perform abortions on fetuses with down syndrome. They should be allowed to, but they shouldn't do it. Someone with down syndrome can still live a happy productive life.
However, I draw the line at diseases that permanently lock the person's intelligence to that of a toddler. Abortion is the humane thing to do at that point.
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