Thousands gather around capital to oppose healthcare bill
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Reporting from Washington - With a historic House vote on a $1-trillion healthcare bill barely 48 hours away, battle lines are hardening as lobbying groups for seniors and doctors endorse the legislation, while thousands of protesters swarmed Capitol Hill to oppose it.
"Kill the bill! Kill the bill!" chanted conservative and small-government advocates on Thursday, some having traveled on short notice from as far as California and Texas to protest what they saw as tantamount to socialized medicine. "No Marx. No Mao," one protest sign read. "No socialized anything," read another.
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The public pressure from left and right provided a dramatic background for a scheduled floor debate on Saturday -- with a vote expected later that day.
The angry voices of opposition echoed the conservative protests that have been heard this year at anti-tax "tea party" rallies, as well as at congressional town meetings on healthcare and in some of the campaigns leading up to Tuesday's off-year elections.
Though the rally in front of the Capitol was peaceful, Capitol Police arrested 21 antiabortion activists and others inside House and Senate office buildings for disorderly conduct and related charges.
[b]Some Republicans have tried to keep their distance from the tea party movement because of some divisive rhetoric -- such as protest signs seen Thursday linking President Obama and the healthcare bill to Nazi Germany.[/b]
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Can hardly believe people are resorting to compare Obama to Nazi Germany.
[QUOTE=Wakka V2;18217721]Can hardly believe people are resorting to throw Nazi Germany in this subject.[/QUOTE]
Every president is or was a Nazi. Bush was a Nazi, Obama is a Nazi, and the next guy is gonna be a Nazi.
[QUOTE=Daolpu;18217752]Every president is or was a Nazi. Bush was a Nazi, Obama is a Nazi, and the next guy is gonna be a Nazi.[/QUOTE]
Or a commie.
Oh America! :smug:
In before anti-conservative hate speech.
Godwin's law.
obama is not helping the people that he suppose to do, therefore he nothing more then a dickweed trying to become a fucking dictator. This free health care going to put us in more debt and this be the fall of the united states and end up being in another depression... that means more people are lossing jobs and corporations and other businesses will collapse.
Obama might be the worst president we had in the united states...
I want universal healthcare like the rest of the western world!
[QUOTE=darkedone02;18217801]obama is not helping the people that he suppose to do, therefore he nothing more then a dickweed trying to become a fucking dictator. This free health care going to put us in more debt and this be the fall of the united states and end up being in another depression... that means more people are lossing jobs and corporations and other businesses will collapse.
Obama might be the worst president we had in the united states...[/QUOTE]
I need viable sources otherwise your statement is invalid.
[QUOTE=Daolpu;18217752]Every president is or was a Nazi. Bush was a Nazi, Obama is a Nazi, and the next guy is gonna be a Nazi.[/QUOTE]
George Washington was a Redcoat.
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[QUOTE=BANNED USER;18217802]I want universal healthcare like the rest of the western world![/QUOTE]
No thanks, I don't want a shit load more taxes.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;18217802]I want universal healthcare like the rest of the western world![/QUOTE]
This goddamnit. These people need to stop holding us back.
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Right now healthcare is a business. And the goal of a business is to make money, even if that means you get ripped off. Then you have to choose, your health, or your wealth.
Nobody should have to choose that.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;18217802]I want universal healthcare like the rest of the western world![/QUOTE]
Ditto.
The thing about these people is that most of the information that's gotten them pissed off enough to protest is complete horseshit fed to them by lying pundits like Limbaugh and Beck. Even Bill O'Reilly has backed off from the blatant misinformation these guys are peddling. Obama's a Kenyan spy, Obama's trying to kill your parents, Obama wants to force you to have an abortion/sex change, Obama's a Muslim, etc.
All of it, of course, is geared to appeal to the racism and bigotry that is abundant at the fringe of the Right. I mean, let's face it, look at any bit of footage from these or the 9-12 protests and tell me how many black, brown, or Asian people you see. The Republican party is the party of rich white men, regardless of how many token black people they're sticking in front of the camera lately.
It's actually kind of sad that all these people have been duped and exploited into protesting based on claims that have been completely pulled out of people's asses, designed to make them scared shitless of Obama's socialist death squads coming to kill them.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;18217819]This goddamnit. These people need to stop holding us back.
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Right now healthcare is a business. And the goal of a business is to make money, even if that means you get ripped off. Then you have to choose, your health, or your wealth.
Nobody should have to choose that.[/QUOTE]
Read about the US' version of universal health care, it's absolute shit.
[QUOTE=OvB;18217811]George Washington was a Redcoat.[/QUOTE]
Lincoln was a slave lover.
:colbert:
[QUOTE=tankkiller;18217879]Read about the US' version of universal health care, it's absolute shit.[/QUOTE]
This bill isn't universal healthcare, that option was ruled out in closed-door meetings from day one. The lobby might be coerced into allowing a public insurance system, but true single-payer universal healthcare would have run them all out of business, and I honestly think the insurance cartel would have had him killed if he were to make a serious effort at that.
[QUOTE=OvB;18217792]In before anti-conservative hate speech.[/QUOTE]
To be fair a lot of them are misinformed or idiotic.
Politics:
2% informed discourse
Now with more sensationalism!
[QUOTE=OvB;18217792]In before anti-conservative hate speech.[/QUOTE]
republicans are human filth
[QUOTE=Chippay;18217944]republicans are literally filth[/QUOTE]
Uh, I don't think you know what literally means, Chippay m'boy.
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Thanks for indulging my nitpicking
[QUOTE=Chippay;18217944]republicans are human filth[/QUOTE]
It's nice to see you value peoples opinion.
[QUOTE=Daolpu;18217752]Every president is or was a Nazi. Bush was a Nazi, Obama is a Nazi, and the next guy is gonna be a Nazi.[/QUOTE]
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[i] "Sieg, I cannot tell zeee lie" [/i]
[QUOTE=OvB;18218073]It's nice to see you value peoples opinion.[/QUOTE]
No value in an opinion that isn't backed up by some kind of fact, or at least a debatable point.
Isn't this the healthcare bill that's meant to give America a UHC and let people who can't afford medical insurance not die?
Every person who goes to one of these "tea parties" is a fucking retard. You want to fix the economy right? THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES. People don't understand that the government raises taxes to pay the fucking bills. People expect the government to pull money out of their ass. These tea parties are just bullshit whipped up by the douchebags at Fox News.
You can't fix the economy if you have no money. If people legitimately want to get through this then they will have to face the facts and give up eating out every night and spending shit loads on pointless crap so that they can put more towards their taxes. And if they don't like it they should shut the fuck up about how much they want the economy fixed.
It's a fucking disgrace that they are equating these bull shit propaganda driven rallies to the noble Boston Tea Party that actually had a good purpose.
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[i] "Sieg, I cannot tell zeee lie" [/i][/QUOTE]
Wrong president
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;18217950]Uh, I don't think you know what literally means, Chippay m'boy.
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Thanks for indulging my nitpicking[/QUOTE]
i changed it before your post because i knew some idiot woulds aay something like this
so let me explain: they are literally filth. this is opposed to figuratively filth.
you can also take this as a standard intensifier if you wish, but that's just using the definition of the word
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;18218086]No value in an opinion that isn't backed up by some kind of fact, or at least a debatable point.[/QUOTE]
Everyone has the right to have their own opinion no matter how stupid and idiotic it is.
[QUOTE=OvB;18218114]Wrong president[/QUOTE]
Oh really...
[QUOTE=Daolpu;18217752][b]Every president[/b] is or was a Nazi. Bush was a Nazi, Obama is a Nazi, and the next guy is gonna be a Nazi.[/QUOTE]
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