• Palestinian laughed and smiled as the woman who they just stabbed cried out for help.
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[url]http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/06/israeli-stabbing-survivor-details-how-palestinian-bystanders-stood-by-and-laughed-while-her-husband-bled-to-death/[/url] [quote]Terror attack survivor Adele Banita told Israeli media that during the stabbing spree Saturday night in which her husband and a rabbi were killed, Palestinian bystanders ignored her cries for help and “just laughed and smiled.” “Arab youths were standing around us, watching and seeing what’s happening, and they didn’t open their mouths; they were only laughing and smiling, just laughed and smiled,” Banita told Israel’s Channel 2 News. “I was begging for help, ‘Help me! Help me!’” Banita recalled crying out in the Jerusalem alley after she, her husband, their toddler and Rabbi Nehemia Lavi, 41, were attacked. She said that she at first didn’t understand what was happening. “I felt something in my back, then I saw my husband Aharon start to struggle with him. Then the terrorist left my husband and came back to me and started stabbing me again,” she said. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visits stabbing attack survivor Adele Banita, whose husband Aharon and another Israeli man were killed by a Palestinian terrorist in Jerusalem Saturday night (Photo: Kobi Gideon/Israeli GPO) Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visits stabbing attack survivor Adele Banita, whose husband Aharon and another Israeli man were killed by a Palestinian terrorist in Jerusalem Saturday night (Kobi Gideon/Israeli GPO) In video captured during the moments of the attack that was posted in the Israeli media, a woman’s hysterical cries could be heard loudly, while a shopkeeper is seen drinking a soft drink. Israeli police shot and killed the suspect. Banita’s mother, Miriam Gal, told those gathered at her son-in-law’s funeral Sunday about how her daughter was screaming and trying to escape even with a knife lodged in her body. “My daughter tried to run away with a knife in her neck. She tried to escape, but they [Palestinians at the scene] wouldn’t let her and shouted at her ‘hopefully you’ll die too,’” Gal claimed, according to the Jerusalem Post. “Such cruelty. The Jewish people should not be foolish, wake up. This [the Palestinians] is a nation of murderers. There entire essence is blood, blood, blood, Jewish blood. They have nothing else,” she said. “Anyone who speaks of peace is an idiot, there is no other word.” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Monday night visited Adele Banita at the Jerusalem hospital where she is recovering from her wounds. After visiting with other Israelis wounded during a slew of terror attacks in the past week, Netanyahu vowed to defeat Palestinian terrorism. “[O]ne thing should be clear — we will win. Just as we defeated previous waves of terrorism, we will defeat this one as well,” Netanyahu posted on Facebook.[/quote] I feel people don't entirely understand that, if Palestinians had the ability to, they would absolutely be doing the same thing the Israelis are doing to them. Of course, it's important to remember that not all of each side would do such a thing.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48882947]I feel people don't entirely understand that, if Palestinians had the ability to, they would absolutely be doing the same thing the Israelis are doing to them. [/QUOTE] No, it would be much worse. They get paid to kill Israelis and commit terror attacks.
Either way of things I'm glad I don't live in the Middle East.
No matter which side you find yourself on, whether you agree with Israel or Palestine, I think the number one thing we should all agree on is that there should be no more western intervention in middle eastern affairs. We should cut them off completely. If the Jews want to live there and illegally annex land and then inevitably get attacked by their opposition, fine, let them. I just don't want to be even remotely involved. It's their war to fight. I don't believe that a magic man will crack open the sky in that specific location, so I don't honestly care who occupies Israel. Jews, Muslims, it makes no difference to me. And the fact that we're involved and we back Israel is the only reason that anyone over there has any ill will against us whatsoever, so as soon as we stop supporting Israel, Terrorism (at least of the Muslim extremist variety) will no longer be an issue for us. Hopefully some day in the future their magic sky man will actually appear and rapture them all and then the rest of us could live in peace. Or, alternatively, they bomb each other into smithereens without the rest of the world getting involved, and the rest of us would be so much better off.
[QUOTE=J Paul;48883078]No matter which side you find yourself on, whether you agree with Israel or Palestine, I think the number one thing we should all agree on is that there should be no more western intervention in middle eastern affairs. We should cut them off completely. If the Jews want to live there and illegally annex land and then inevitably get attacked by their opposition, fine, let them. I just don't want to be even remotely involved. It's their war to fight. I don't believe that a magic man will crack open the sky in that specific location, so I don't honestly care who occupies Israel. Jews, Muslims, it makes no difference to me. [I]And the fact that we're involved and we back Israel is the only reason that anyone over there has any ill will against us whatsoever[/I], so as soon as we stop supporting Israel, Terrorism (at least of the Muslim extremist variety) will no longer be an issue for us. Hopefully some day in the future their magic sky man will actually appear and rapture them all and then the rest of us could live in peace. Or, alternatively, they bomb each other into smithereens without the rest of the world getting involved, and the rest of us would be so much better off.[/QUOTE] Uh, I'm pretty sure the imposing of our will on third world countries and the killings of thousands of innocent civilians with drone strikes might have a bit more to do with that these days.
Why do they always make the Israelis look like the victims?
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883122]Why do they always make the Israelis look like the victims?[/QUOTE] Because the Israelis are getting stabbed?
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883122]Why do they always make the Israelis look like the victims?[/QUOTE] Uh what? This woman was completely innocent and didn't have anything to do some of the things other Israelis have done, and yet they stabbed her, her husband, and her offspring all because they were Israeli. I think calling her a victim in this circumstance is fucking understandable. Also, plenty of media reports on how Palestinians are victims too. Not to long ago, remember how that 13 year old boy was shot and killed by a .22 rifle? I'm not on any side here honestly, I dislike both of them equally, and saying one side is better or worse than the other is just fucking outright stupid.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883122]Why do they always make the Israelis look like the victims?[/QUOTE] Because there are victims and shitheads in both sides.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883122]Why do they always make the Israelis look like the victims?[/QUOTE] Because they are the victims here?
Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883199]Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.[/QUOTE] What? There are [b]TONS[/b] of threads about the Israeli government doing illegal things on the Gaza strip
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883199]Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.[/QUOTE] I think we've seen enough of what the Israeli government has done,that doesn't invalidate the fact that delusional Palestinians are also causing trouble to justify their 'holy' war
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883199]Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.[/QUOTE] Nobody would record Israeli pilots and artillery crews laughing while they ruined Palestine. I doubt settlers that brutalize people would get much either considering how poor their victims are.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883199]Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.[/QUOTE] Yes you do. Quite often, if not more-often. Why are you trying to make out that it's impossible for Israelis to be victims? This woman, husband and the rabbi were innocent but were nonetheless assaulted by thugs, who seriously injured her and murdered the other two.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883199]Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.[/QUOTE] Where have you been... that just isn't true. The opposite is in fact true.
[QUOTE=J Paul;48883078]No matter which side you find yourself on, whether you agree with Israel or Palestine, I think the number one thing we should all agree on is that there should be no more western intervention in middle eastern affairs. We should cut them off completely. If the Jews want to live there and illegally annex land and then inevitably get attacked by their opposition, fine, let them. I just don't want to be even remotely involved. It's their war to fight. I don't believe that a magic man will crack open the sky in that specific location, so I don't honestly care who occupies Israel. Jews, Muslims, it makes no difference to me. And the fact that we're involved and we back Israel is the only reason that anyone over there has any ill will against us whatsoever, so as soon as we stop supporting Israel, Terrorism (at least of the Muslim extremist variety) will no longer be an issue for us. Hopefully some day in the future their magic sky man will actually appear and rapture them all and then the rest of us could live in peace. Or, alternatively, they bomb each other into smithereens without the rest of the world getting involved, and the rest of us would be so much better off.[/QUOTE] Terrorism against Americans which originates from the Middle East would not just stop even if the U.S. suddenly stopped supporting Israel tomorrow. Surely there are lots of young men and women in the Middle East who have been raised to hate the west, and they will carry those beliefs with them for the longest time. Especially if they have lost friends or family in any recent wars. Now of course I'm against what is seemingly the unconditional financial aid provided by the west to Israel (if it was conditional I would be okay with it), and somewhat against for instance drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen, but the west pulling out of the Middle East altogether will not solve anything. The Middle East is the way it is today because of the west, so the west has a responsibility to get it back into shape. Especially when it comes to eliminating groups like ISIS.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48883303]Nobody would record Israeli pilots and artillery crews laughing while they ruined Palestine. I doubt settlers that brutalize people would get much either considering how poor their victims are.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding me? That's like a fucking media goldmine. Any news outlet would immediately record that and put it up.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;48883382]Are you kidding me? That's like a fucking media goldmine. Any news outlet would immediately record that and put it up.[/QUOTE] They wouldn't be able to to get the footage.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48883584]They wouldn't be able to to get the footage.[/QUOTE] I think you underestimate the craftiness of some reporters.
[QUOTE=J Paul;48883078]No matter which side you find yourself on, whether you agree with Israel or Palestine, I think the number one thing we should all agree on is that there should be no more western intervention in middle eastern affairs. We should cut them off completely. If the Jews want to live there and illegally annex land and then inevitably get attacked by their opposition, fine, let them. I just don't want to be even remotely involved. It's their war to fight. I don't believe that a magic man will crack open the sky in that specific location, so I don't honestly care who occupies Israel. Jews, Muslims, it makes no difference to me. And the fact that we're involved and we back Israel is the only reason that anyone over there has any ill will against us whatsoever, so as soon as we stop supporting Israel, Terrorism (at least of the Muslim extremist variety) will no longer be an issue for us. Hopefully some day in the future their magic sky man will actually appear and rapture them all and then the rest of us could live in peace. Or, alternatively, they bomb each other into smithereens without the rest of the world getting involved, and the rest of us would be so much better off.[/QUOTE] you seem to think that the west is the source of all the middle east's problems, maybe not the fact that for 30 years most of those countries that had dictators or are shitholes now had no economic growth and were propped up by the strong arm of the USSR, at least the ones not being invaded. you know the countries that attacked israel over and over again were all armed with soviet made weaponry, except for syria which also had nazi made weapons supplied by the soviets. somehow removing western interferance from the region will stop the middle east from having any influence on the rest of the world? isolationism stopped working in 1941, and hasn't worked since
[QUOTE=Sableye;48883653]you seem to think that the west is the source of all the middle east's problems, maybe not the fact that for 30 years most of those countries that had dictators or are shitholes now had no economic growth and were propped up by the strong arm of the USSR, at least the ones not being invaded. you know the countries that attacked israel over and over again were all armed with soviet made weaponry, except for syria which also had nazi made weapons supplied by the soviets. somehow removing western interferance from the region will stop the middle east from having any influence on the rest of the world? isolationism stopped working in 1941, and hasn't worked since[/QUOTE] For every nation the USSR didn't back up in the Middle East, the US supplied arms and money to. You can't go say it's all the fault of a country that doesn't exist anymore like that when there were two sides to the situation. Many Arabs and Arab nations hate Israel. The US backs up Israel and has done such since 1948. Therefore, they hate the US as well.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883199]Israel has done things just as bad to the Palestinians though, but you don't see nearly as many stories about that.[/QUOTE] [B]whaaaaaaat[/B] Is this your only time visiting sub fourm?
To be honest there's morons on both fucking sides stirring shit up. Israel illegally annexing land to create lebensraum for their own people whilst the likes of Hamas instigate attacks on Israel and then hide behind their own people when the overwhelming retaliation hits. There's attitudes on both sides that need to change, really. Shame they couldn't have worked out a shared-state solution like was originally proposed in the late 40s.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;48884994]To be honest there's morons on both fucking sides stirring shit up. Israel illegally annexing land to create lebensraum for their own people whilst the likes of Hamas instigate attacks on Israel and then hide behind their own people when the overwhelming retaliation hits. There's attitudes on both sides that need to change, really. [B]Shame they couldn't have worked out a shared-state solution like was originally proposed in the late 40s.[/B][/QUOTE] That was as much the fault of [I]all[/I] the neighboring Arab states around Palestine/Israel as the Palestinians and Israelis themselves.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;48883122]Why do they always make the Israelis look like the victims?[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? It's usually the Palestinians that are made to look like victims. It's not wrong to but usually the media ignores Palestinians doing stuff to Israelites.
i can see why they'd act the way they did honestly israeli citizens often have rights that supercede those of palestinians in that region, so most of them probably feel extremely oppressed to them, this is karma for all the hypocrisy the israeli government has given them and the atrocities it's committed against the palestine community though it's rather unfair to take out your anger on an innocent bystander
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48885006]That was as much the fault of [I]all[/I] the neighboring Arab states around Palestine/Israel as the Palestinians and Israelis themselves.[/QUOTE] Yeah arab countries invading israel literally a week after its creation didnt really help the situation. Neither did the war in 60s or the 70s.
[QUOTE=aznz888;48886204]i can see why they'd act the way they did honestly israeli citizens often have rights that supercede those of palestinians in that region, so most of them probably feel extremely oppressed to them, this is karma for all the hypocrisy the israeli government has given them and the atrocities it's committed against the palestine community though it's rather unfair to take out your anger on an innocent bystander[/QUOTE] Its nice that you can understand people that stab random people in the street. It may interest you to know that a lot the stabbers so far were Palestinians from east Jerusalem, making them Israeli citizens with equal rights to all other Israelis. You may also be delighted to hear that this last wave of violent riots and random stabbings is not motivated by Israeli occupation, but by completely false rumors being spread among Israeli Arabs and Palestinians that Israel plans to take over the Temple Mount. Here, I'll let the [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34503231"]BBC[/URL] explain: [QUOTE]What's behind the latest unrest? After a period of relative quiet, violence between the two communities has spiralled since clashes erupted at a flashpoint Jerusalem holy site in mid-September.[B] It was fuelled by rumours among Palestinians that Israel was attempting to alter a long-standing religious arrangement governing the site[/B]. Israel repeatedly dismissed the rumours as incitement. Soon afterwards, two Israelis were shot dead by Palestinians in the West Bank and the stabbing attacks began. Both Israel and the Palestinian authorities have accused one another of doing nothing to protect each other's communities.[/QUOTE] Incidentally, these rumors are usually spread by the northern branch of the Islamic movement, a radical Muslim movement based in Israel's north- so again, Israeli Arabs with equal rights, stirring up shit that gets Israelis and Palestinians killed.
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;48887458]Its nice that you can understand people that stab random people in the street. It may interest you to know that a lot the stabbers so far were Palestinians from east Jerusalem, making them Israeli citizens with equal rights to all other Israelis. You may also be delighted to hear that this last wave of violent riots and random stabbings is not motivated by Israeli occupation, but by completely false rumors being spread among Israeli Arabs and Palestinians that Israel plans to take over the Temple Mount. Here, I'll let the [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34503231"]BBC[/URL] explain: Incidentally, these rumors are usually spread by the northern branch of the Islamic movement, a radical Muslim movement based in Israel's north- so again, Israeli Arabs with equal rights, stirring up shit that gets Israelis and Palestinians killed.[/QUOTE] Adding onto this, the rules on the Temple Mount heavily favor Muslims. Jews are not allowed to pray on the temple mount, eat on the temple mount, or even drink on the temple mount. [video=youtube;7GH_7-aKR2Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GH_7-aKR2Q[/video] [video=youtube;z4lnh92zFEA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4lnh92zFEA[/video] Video titles are sensationalist but it's honestly stupid that Muslims get much more privileges than Jews on the temple mount, considering that the temple mount is the holiest place in Judaism while for Muslims, it's only the third most holy place.
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