• Ultra-Orthodox Jews - War on Internet use: "Here lies our mommy, who surfed to death at work."
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[quote]Leaders of the ultra-Orthodox community in Jerusalem are stepping up their war on Internet use. Ads posted in haredi newspapers and local synagogues recently warned the public against the implications of surfing the Web. The ads included an illustration of a cemetery, in which each gravestone has the cause of death inscribed on it – the cause being, of course, Internet use. For example, the inscription on one of the tombstone read, "Here lies our mommy, who surfed to death at work." Other gravestones bear the inscriptions: "An entire family deleted forever" and "Dear father, we lost you on Facebook." At the same time, residents of Jerusalem's haredi neighborhoods expressed their aversion to the Internet in signs hung on their balconies. The neighborhoods were flooded with signs reading, "Here the Divine Presence is not driven away; here there is no computer or any device receiving Internet or films." They also included the phone number of the "rabbis committee for communication affairs," established for halachic inquiries and ways to disconnect from the Internet. As a service to the public, the committee set up an organization which provides disconnection services. "Tens of thousands of people have disconnected in recent month," said a committee official, who estimated that many did it through private computer technicians. The committee official explained that during the Days of Awe between Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, there was a need to increase awareness to the dangers posed by the Internet and encourage the public to engage in repentance and spiritual strengthening.[/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/k2qMH.jpg[/img] [url=http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4285096,00.html]Source[/url]
You guys don't even understand how bat-shit crazy these guys are. You know Muslim extremists? That times 10. The only reason you barely hear anything from them is because they're practically enclosed in their neighborhoods from the outside world.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;37786021]You guys don't even understand how bat-shit crazy these guys are. You know Muslim extremists? That times 10. [I]The only reason you barely hear anything from them is because they're practically enclosed in their neighborhoods from the outside world.[/I][/QUOTE] Willingly or forced?
[QUOTE=Van-man;37786033]Willingly or forced?[/QUOTE] Willingly, they just don't want to have anything to do with anything outside their community. These guys actually hate the Israeli government more than the Palestinians do, and that's a fucking accomplishment right there.
Do I like the idea that people go away from the Internet and go out to do stuff - sure. Do I think the Internet is a devilish weapon to disconnect me and kill me? No.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;37786021]You guys don't even understand how bat-shit crazy these guys are. You know Muslim extremists? That times 10. The only reason you barely hear anything from them is because they're practically enclosed in their neighborhoods from the outside world.[/QUOTE] Well considering Muslim extremists attack people and these Jewish extremists just say stupid stuff, I'm going to have to disagree with the 10 times part.
to think that some of these people live down the road from me they might just be Orthodox though... not Ultra
[QUOTE=Glorbo;37786043]Willingly, they just don't want to have anything to do with anything outside their community. These guys actually hate the Israeli government more than the Palestinians do, and that's a fucking accomplishment right there.[/QUOTE] They must be living incarnations of pure, festering hatred and rage then. What do they actually do in their community? Spend all day reading and arguing about religious matters and the like? Is there any English documentary on them?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;37786109]Well considering Muslim extremists attack people and these Jewish extremists just say stupid stuff, I'm going to have to disagree with the 10 times part.[/QUOTE] Baruch Goldstein
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;37786109]Well considering Muslim extremists attack people and these Jewish extremists just say stupid stuff, I'm going to have to disagree with the 10 times part.[/QUOTE] There's plenty of extremists Muslims, because there's loads of Muslims on the planet. Not so many extremist Jews, and this is a group mostly limited to Israel, especially Jerusalem. On one occasion I clearly remember, two large religious groups argued and it escalated to a point where members of one group broke into the house of a family that belonged to the second group, beat the shit out of the parents, poured gasoline and oil on the children, and almost lit them on fire-the only thing that stopped them were the family's neighbors. [editline]24th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Terminutter;37786149]They must be living incarnations of pure, festering hatred and rage then. What do they actually do in their community? Spend all day reading and arguing about religious matters and the like?[/QUOTE] That sums it up, yeah. [QUOTE=Terminutter;37786149]Is there any English documentary on them?[/QUOTE] Not that I know of.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;37786150]Baruch Goldstein[/QUOTE] Except these guys have nothing to do with this guy so the comparison is irrelevant.
I know someone who was forced to move because people like these were throwing a shitfit about cell towers going up within range of their communities, and fiber being laid nearby. He couldn't get anything faster than his DSL connection, but that was less than 600k because he was so far away from the box. He needed faster speeds for work too. Cost him a fair amount of money to relocate.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;37786118]to think that some of these people live down the road from me they might just be Orthodox though... not Ultra[/QUOTE] Does not mean they follow this particular group. That same generalization happened with Muslims when one said they were offended.
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;37786118]to think that some of these people live down the road from me they might just be Orthodox though... not Ultra[/QUOTE] The difference between "Orthodox" and "Ultra-Orthodox" is immense. Orthodox Jews are actually reasonable most of the time.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;37786181]Except these guys have nothing to do with this guy so the comparison is irrelevant.[/QUOTE] my bad, I thought you were talking about jewish extremists in general bad reading [editline]24th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Glorbo;37786249]The difference between "Orthodox" and "Ultra-Orthodox" is immense. Orthodox Jews are actually reasonable most of the time.[/QUOTE] I can't tell really, it could be either. I would consider some of their actions to be Ultra, but the definitions in themselves seem pretty vague. They do wear the Black coats and stuff in public, have beards, and that seems to be a characteristic of Haredi Judaism, though not necessarily Orthodox. They seems to be nice people in general though.
[video=youtube;5jG6kJm-50k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jG6kJm-50k&feature=related[/video] I dont know which documentary this is. Also dont mind the titel, its very stupid in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Bucketboy;37786320][video=youtube;5jG6kJm-50k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jG6kJm-50k&feature=related[/video] I dont know which documentary this is. Also dont mind the titel, its very stupid in my opinion.[/QUOTE] That's like filming a black guy going into a group of rednecks and calling the video "How Americans treat African-Americans".
[QUOTE=Glorbo;37786021]You guys don't even understand how bat-shit crazy these guys are. You know Muslim extremists? That times 10. The only reason you barely hear anything from them is because they're practically enclosed in their neighborhoods from the outside world.[/QUOTE] That, + their relevancy is close to none. No one should give even half of a fuck about these guys.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;37786043]Willingly, they just don't want to have anything to do with anything outside their community. [I]These guys actually hate the Israeli government more than the Palestinians do, and that's a fucking accomplishment right there.[/I][/QUOTE] [I]MY GOD[/I], they're doing the impossible.
My rabbi died because he OD'd on dirty internet needles
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;37786109]Well considering Muslim extremists attack people and these Jewish extremists just say stupid stuff, I'm going to have to disagree with the 10 times part.[/QUOTE] They do attack and even kill people though.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;37786109]Well considering Muslim extremists attack people and these Jewish extremists just say stupid stuff, I'm going to have to disagree with the 10 times part.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League[/URL] EDIT: Unsure if Baruch was an ultra-orthodox Jew, but his grave was venerated by Hasidim and other ultra-Orthodox like Rabbi Yaacov Perrin. At his funeral, the Rabbi claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".[SUP][/SUP][SUP][/SUP][SUP][/SUP] Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way but in every way" and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37786932][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League[/URL] EDIT: Unsure if Baruch was an ultra-orthodox Jew, but his grave was venerated by Hasidim and other ultra-Orthodox like Rabbi Yaacov Perrin. At his funeral, the Rabbi claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".[SUP][/SUP][SUP][/SUP][SUP][/SUP] Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way but in every way" and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect.[/QUOTE] Didn't these guys DDOS Facepunch once?
[QUOTE=_Kent_;37787067]Didn't these guys DDOS Facepunch once?[/QUOTE] That was the the JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) [url]http://www.thejidf.org/[/url]
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37786932][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League[/URL][/QUOTE] Little known fact about these guys, they actually managed to get 1 or 2 seats in the Israeli parliament at one time. The following elections, they were banned from joining the parliament, because up until their joining there was no law banning parties with racist platforms from joining the Knesset.
I hate the holy shit out of zealots, oh my balls
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37787146]That was the the JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) [url]http://www.thejidf.org/[/url][/QUOTE] I always thought this was a joke site made to make fun of jews.
[QUOTE=Desuh;37787761]I always thought this was a joke site made to make fun of jews.[/QUOTE] Nope, these guys actually exist. Thank god for that, I mean, who else would defend me on the wild planes of the internet
[QUOTE=Desuh;37787761]I always thought this was a joke site made to make fun of jews.[/QUOTE] Nope, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force"]they're legitimate[/URL]. I recall them telling me several years ago they were going to report me to Mossad :v:
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37787146] [QUOTE=_Kent_;37787067]Didn't these guys DDOS Facepunch once?[/QUOTE] That was the the JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) [url]http://www.thejidf.org/[/url][/QUOTE] What was it for?
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