• Detroit money crisis causes most fire inspections to fall years behind
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[quote=WXYZ.com] DETROIT (WXYZ) - The Detroit cash crisis and business owners failing to pay up have taken a toll on the Detroit Fire Department's Fire Marshal Division. In 2005, there were 32 fire inspectors in the city of Detroit. Now, there are only five. And when Action News asked Detroit Fire Marshal Steven Hurst how much business owners owe in inspection fees which is supposed to help pay their salaries, he replied "Millions". "We're just plugging away the best we can," Hurst added. The Fire Marshal Division no longer has a night crew of fire inspectors to regularly check bars and casinos. Years ago, Hurst says it took two years for inspectors to get to all the commercial buildings in Detroit. When Action News asked how long it'll now take for inspectors to complete that same job, he replied "Years". And while fire fighters are trained to be able to spot fire hazards and other safety issues, their own firehouses where are supposed to be on the inspection list. But out of the dozens of firehouses around the city, only two were inspected in 2011. In 2012? Fire Marshal Hurst said, "None". [/quote] [url="http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/detroit-money-crisis-causes-most-fire-inspections-to-fall-by-the-wayside"]Source[/url]. And before anyone else posts it... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4a-oxOndo[/media]
That is such a shame. I would like to visit Detriot just to see how big of a ghost town it is. There are litteraly sky scrapers that are abandoned. The unemployment rate there is ~40%, and houses can sell for as low as $1. We can thank Chrysler for taking the bailout money the American people gave them, and shipping the jobs to Korea.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284060]That is such a shame. I would like to visit Detriot just to see how big of a ghost town it is. There are litteraly sky scrapers that are abandoned. The unemployment rate there is ~40%, and houses can sell for as low as $1. We can thank Chrysler for taking the bailout money the American people gave them, and shipping the jobs to Korea.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't really be a ghost town, it would be a cesspool a lot of crime and villianly with gangbangers, murders, corruption, drug use and worse of all: Italian laundry machines.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284060]That is such a shame. I would like to visit Detriot just to see how big of a ghost town it is. There are litteraly sky scrapers that are abandoned. The unemployment rate there is ~40%, and houses can sell for as low as $1. We can thank Chrysler for taking the bailout money the American people gave them, and shipping the jobs to Korea.[/QUOTE] What they need to start doing is having a mass demolition to remove the derelict areas in the city. It would cost a lot of money, but the city would save far more not having to maintain the untold numbers of abandoned properties, and constantly have to police the areas and worry about fires.
[QUOTE=bohb;39284469]What they need to start doing is having a mass demolition to remove the derelict areas in the city. It would cost a lot of money, but the city would save far more not having to maintain the untold numbers of abandoned properties, and constantly have to police the areas and worry about fires.[/QUOTE] I agree. It would create jobs and help stimulate the economy, help make the place look better, and raise propery values.
Wait what are you guys talking about? What's up in detroit?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;39284516]Wait what are you guys talking about? What's up in detroit?[/QUOTE] Ever since the 1970s, Detroit has been steady in decline. The collapse in December 2007 was the straw that broke the camel's back, per say. All of the industry as left, leaving the city jobless. The unemployment rate is close to 40%, and what was once home to 2 million people now only has about 800,000 people. People break into abandoned homes and steal the copper piping, and often times the kitchen sink. (Litteraly). They turn in this copper to a scrap yard for money, to buy groceries, or pay their bills. After the 2008 bailout under President Bush, GM stayed, but Chrysler shipped a lot of their jobs to the Asian nations rather than investing back into Detroit. Entire subdivisons of once propserous homes have fallen into dismay from being abandoned. There are sections of the city that once held corporate offices, that are abandoned. Hell even the Packard plant is still there, and Packard went out of business in 1958.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;39284516]Wait what are you guys talking about? What's up in detroit?[/QUOTE] Detroit is sort of like a localized version of what will happen if the global economy crashes. It is basically a big empty place full of the poorest poor people doing anything they can to survive. It beats out the third world, but only by default.
Here is a good example of modern day Detroit. Median home value in Detroit: $6,000. [video=youtube;JRpG9CjjhWI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRpG9CjjhWI[/video]
That's crazy
[QUOTE=bohb;39284469]What they need to start doing is having a mass demolition to remove the derelict areas in the city. It would cost a lot of money, but the city would save far more not having to maintain the untold numbers of abandoned properties, and constantly have to police the areas and worry about fires.[/QUOTE] If they ever actually do this, I want to visit Detroit before it happens. Seeing block after block of abandoned skyscrapers, destroyed cars in the streets... It sounds like a really incredible experience. That is, if I don't get stabbed and mugged while I'm standing there.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284588]Here is a good example of modern day Detroit. Median home value in Detroit: $6,000. [video=youtube;JRpG9CjjhWI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRpG9CjjhWI[/video][/QUOTE] Is there a way for somebody to take advantage of this?
[QUOTE=Iago;39284867]Is there a way for somebody to take advantage of this?[/QUOTE] Yes, 1,000s have. Outsiders have been rushing in to buy up cheap property and homes, and renting them out, ect. Hell, I would buy a house for $1. I would even buy it for $6,000. It would be incredibly wise to do so because Detroit will bounce back, property values will go back up, and the jobs will come back. Which is why I told everyone to invest in GM in 2009.
[QUOTE=Iago;39284867]Is there a way for somebody to take advantage of this?[/QUOTE] Actually, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Buying a 10$ house and restoring it to be modern and awesome, then reselling it in the ten-thousands. You have to rely on the fact that someone would want to even purchase a house in that area, though. Edit; You could also buy a whole block of supercheap houses, demolish them all, and build something really cool there instead. Then you sell it to some entrepreneur. You'd need to be really rich to do any of this in the first place, though.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;39284910]Actually, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Buying a 10$ house and restoring it to be modern and awesome, then reselling it in the ten-thousands. You have to rely on the fact that someone would want to even purchase a house in that area, though.[/QUOTE] It'd probably cost a lot to restore the houses, and then you might not be able to sell. The house might get looted while you're waiting for it to sell too.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39284925]It'd probably cost a lot to restore the houses, and then you might not be able to sell. The house might get looted while you're waiting for it to sell too.[/QUOTE] It would, but as I said property values will go back up. So even if you have a run down property for a few years that you bought for $2,000... you can restore it and sell if for massive profit when the market recovers.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284886]Yes, 1,000s have. Outsiders have been rushing in to buy up cheap property and homes, and renting them out, ect. Hell, I would buy a house for $1. I would even buy it for $6,000. It would be incredibly wise to do so because Detroit will bounce back, property values will go back up, and the jobs will come back. Which is why I told everyone to invest in GM in 2009.[/QUOTE] I mean what if some sort of person with absolutely no morals or regard for human life, wants to take advantage of this on a very large scale while pretending to do something good for the poor. Could that work, and also how would that person do it?
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39284925]It'd probably cost a lot to restore the houses, and then you might not be able to sell. The house might get looted while you're waiting for it to sell too.[/QUOTE] When in doubt, blow it up!
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284060]That is such a shame. I would like to visit Detriot just to see how big of a ghost town it is. There are litteraly sky scrapers that are abandoned. The unemployment rate there is ~40%, and houses can sell for as low as $1. We can thank Chrysler for taking the bailout money the American people gave them, and shipping the jobs to Korea.[/QUOTE] Chrysler didn't really ship the jobs, Fiat did. [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=UziXxX;39284934]It would, but as I said property values will go back up. So even if you have a run down property for a few years that you bought for $2,000... you can restore it and sell if for massive profit when the market recovers.[/QUOTE] I don't really think Detroit will recover though. It's a factory town, many of the jobs are leaving, and it's becoming a more and more undesirable place to live. It's a shaky investment at best.
[QUOTE=Iago;39284936]I mean what if some sort of person with absolutely no morals or regard for human life, wants to take advantage of this on a very large scale while pretending to do something good for the poor. Could that work, and also how would that person do it?[/QUOTE] I'm not really familiar with the process of buying houses or property, but I imagine that you would just go from property to property buying things, like the monopoly board game. [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39284983]Chrysler didn't really ship the jobs, Fiat did.[/QUOTE] Fair enough.
What needs to happen is for Detroit to have lowered taxes for corporations so more would be willing to move there. After that work on housing, neighborhoods, building schools. Then work on lowering the crime rate.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;39284516]Wait what are you guys talking about? What's up in detroit?[/QUOTE] [url]http://detroiturbex.com/index.html[/url] Here's an absolutely fantastic urbex website based around Detroit. The authors go to a lot of trouble photographing and researching abandoned buildings and sites around Detroit. Kind of gives you some scope on the situation in Detroit.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39285013]I'm not really familiar with the process of buying houses or property, but I imagine that you would just go from property to property buying things, like the monopoly board game. [editline]19th January 2013[/editline] Fair enough.[/QUOTE] Perfect, fuckin' perfect this is great news. Thank you very much.
A lot of this shit is blown out of proportion. Yeah there are abandoned houses, and a few big skyscrapers downtown. But let me tell you, I work in downtown Detroit for a major company; and the place is still a great and beautiful city. It is going through a difficult time, but there are people who care that are trying to set things straight. For instance, my company shut down our building in Southfield ~20 miles from Detroit, rented out one of the RenCen towers downtown and moved all the Southfield employees (numbering in the thousands) there to create more tax revenue for the city. There is no way I am losing hope in the city. It's going through a rough time, just like all things do. And as all great things, it will recover. [QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;39285046]What needs to happen is for Detroit to have lowered taxes for corporations so more would be willing to move there. After that work on housing and neighborhoods. Then work on lowering crime rate. Lack of jobs and crime rate are the only reasons why no one wants to live there.[/QUOTE] They are already doing that. That was part of the deal Mayor Bing struck up with my company. For some reason people think no one is trying to improve things when there is hard work being done every day to do so.
I should buy homes in detroit for a dollar and blow them up for youtube views. I'd make a profit probably.
[QUOTE=Pubichair;39285113]I should buy homes in detroit for a dollar and blow them up for youtube views. I'd make a profit probably.[/QUOTE] You would. Without a doubt.
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284886] Which is why I told everyone to invest in GM in 2009.[/QUOTE] You didn't tell me [editline]20th January 2013[/editline] thanks a lot mate
[QUOTE=Coridan;39285084]A lot of this shit is blown out of proportion. Yeah there are abandoned houses, and a few big skyscrapers downtown. But let me tell you, I work in downtown Detroit for a major company; and the place is still a great and beautiful city. It is going through a difficult time, but there are people who care that are trying to set things straight. For instance, my company shut down our building in Southfield ~20 miles from Detroit, rented out one of the RenCen towers downtown and moved all the Southfield employees (numbering in the thousands) there to create more tax revenue for the city. There is no way I am losing hope in the city. It's going through a rough time, just like all things do. And as all great things, it will recover. They are already doing that. That was part of the deal Mayor Bing struck up with my company. For some reason people think no one is trying to improve things when there is hard work being done every day to do so.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I live near Detroit and I've been there several times. It's not all empty and lifeless and dirty and destroyed like some of these reports make it seem like. There's still a bustling downtown and it's still alive. It's not like it's a fucking zombie apocalypse-style ghost town with total chaos reigning everywhere.
[IMG]http://www.beyondhollywood.com/uploads/2012/02/OCP-Logo.jpg[/IMG] It's gonna happen...
[QUOTE=UziXxX;39284588]Here is a good example of modern day Detroit. Median home value in Detroit: $6,000. [video=youtube;JRpG9CjjhWI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRpG9CjjhWI[/video][/QUOTE] "Negro ruined Detroit" What.
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