Putin rejects any chance of Snowden being extradited to the USA
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[QUOTE]In his first comments about the chase for Snowden that has captivated world attention, Putin described the ex-intelligence contractor as a "free man" whose arrival in Russia was "completely unexpected" for the Russian authorities.
The dramatic announcement ended two days of guessing over the whereabouts of the fugitive Snowden, who leaked revelations of US massive surveillance programs to the media and is now wanted by the US authorities.
"It is true that Mr. Snowden came to Moscow," Mr Putin said at a news conference while on a visit to Finland. "For us, this was completely unexpected."
"He arrived as a transit passenger and he does not need a visa or other documents. He can buy a ticket and go wherever he pleases. He did not cross the state border, as a transit passenger he is still in the transit hall," Mr Putin added.
Snowden had been expected to board a flight for Cuba on Monday, reportedly on his way to seek asylum in Ecuador. But he never did and Mr Putin appeared to confirm that the fugitive was still uncertain over his onward travel plans.
"Mr Snowden is a free man, the sooner he selects his final destination point, the better for us and for himself," said Mr Putin.
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[URL]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/putin-rejects-snowden-extradition/story-e6frg6so-1226669970347[/URL]
Not surprised. Putin is no champion of human rights and usually takes in people like this as a sort of insult to the country they come from. Pretty much like how Depardieu got into Moscow.
[quote]Putin described the ex-intelligence contractor as a [b]"free man"[/b] whose arrival in Russia was "completely unexpected" for the Russian authorities.[/quote]
arg confirmed
[QUOTE=galenmarek;41193238]Not surprised. Putin is no champion of human rights and usually takes in people like this as a sort of insult to the country they come from. Pretty much like how Depardieu got into Moscow.[/QUOTE]
But I'm actually with Putin on this. US Intelligence fucked up and they just want to get loose ends, this Snowden guy is legitimately good with him revealing the PRISM program.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;41193737]But I'm actually with Putin on this. US Intelligence fucked up and they just want to get loose ends, this Snowden guy is legitimately good with him revealing the PRISM program.[/QUOTE]
Careful, you might disappear with that kind of talk.
Oh shit me too.
He's just doing it to troll the west but whatever it's a good thing.
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should've been in OP
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"Come at me you motherfuckers."
Meanwhile, Russian Intelligence holds Snowden, seizes his computers, and copies the data found to their databases.
It's just conjecture, but one has to think about why they are so eager to keep him, besides messing with the United States.
Of course, you can say the conjecture is meaningless since Snowden may be prepared to release all the information he has.
Putin is so russian he bleeds borscht.
Putin is a terrifying motherfucker
[QUOTE=person11;41197257]Meanwhile, Russian Intelligence holds Snowden, seizes his computers, and copies the data found to their databases.
It's just conjecture, but one has to think about why they are so eager to keep him, besides messing with the United States.
Of course, you can say the conjecture is meaningless since Snowden may be prepared to release all the information he has.[/QUOTE]
there are probably a couple of secrets that the US [I]should[/I] be keeping from Russia, but probably nothing that Snowden knows
[QUOTE=Crazy;41197277]Putin is so russian he bleeds borscht.[/QUOTE]
Borsch is a Ukrainian dish though
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;41193737]US Intelligence fucked up and they just want to get loose ends[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41197408]but probably nothing that Snowden knows[/QUOTE]
Did you guys watch the news when the higher-ups were explaining the potential damage? Snowden was a CIA employee turned contractor. He had access to [I]everything[/I], not just what the NSA was doing within the US, and nobody knows exactly how much he took with him.
The fact that he's started revealing information completely unrelated to his whistleblowing, like US cyber-attacks against China, is getting a lot of people in the intelligence community very concerned. They want him back both so he can be put on trial and to limit any potential further disclosure.
If he starts giving information to Russia he'll have gone from a whistleblower to a defector and the damage to national security could be enormous. Think of what Russia could do with something as simple as a list of CIA agents in Moscow.
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Good guy Putin
[QUOTE=galenmarek;41193238]Not surprised. [B]Putin is no champion of human rights[/B] and usually takes in people like this as a sort of insult to the country they come from. Pretty much like how Depardieu got into Moscow.[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything? America's the one infringing human rights here, not Putin.
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[QUOTE=catbarf;41197565]Think of what Russia could do with something as simple as a list of CIA agents in Moscow.[/QUOTE]
What right does the US have to conduct espionage on a worldwide level? Maybe this will deflate our massive espionage boner.
[QUOTE=Negrul1;41197625]What does that have to do with anything? America's the one infringing human rights here, not Putin.[/QUOTE]
Mostly that it seems odd that someone who claims to represent the principle of freedom of information is buddying up with a laundry list of some of the most repressive nations on the globe.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41197565]Think of what Russia could do with something as simple as a list of CIA agents in Moscow.[/QUOTE]
If they were smart; nothing. It's better to keep a known agent in place and feed them false information than get new unknown people instead.
[QUOTE=InUndenial;41197672]What right does the US have to conduct espionage on a worldwide level? Maybe this will deflate our massive espionage boner.[/QUOTE]
You realize that literally every country has intelligence services that do this sort of thing, right?
Besides, what's your argument, that we should let Snowden freely give out info about our national security because you don't like international espionage? I mean yeah I can kinda sympathize with you that maybe we ought to stay more within our own country, but Snowden has access to information that would be VERY interesting to any sort of terrorist group.
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;41197680]If they were smart; nothing. It's better to keep a known agent in place and feed them false information than get new unknown people instead.[/QUOTE]
It's just not so simple...
[QUOTE=Zezibesh;41197680]If they were smart; nothing. It's better to keep a known agent in place and feed them false information than get new unknown people instead.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, but it still puts them in a dangerous position.
Or think of what Russia could do with a list of CIA agents undercover with militant groups in the Middle East. At best it would be a hell of a bargaining chip, at worst it could lead to a lot of Americans being beheaded on CNN. My point is that what Snowden had access to and could have with him, let alone the knowledge in his brain, goes way, [I]way[/I] beyond just NSA wiretaps. The US isn't just trying to save face, it's desperately trying to get him back before Russia gets anything critical out of him.
It seems like Snowden has no real idea what he is to do next. He's running to all of the US's geopolitical rivals. I would much prefer it if he ran to Ecuador or Iceland in the first place, instead of hopping from country to country with four laptops full of sensitive intelligence.
Next up: America gets mad, send Putin a pissed off smiley face!
putin? trigger discipline? don't give a fuck.
you'd be an idiot to presume that the russian government isn't doing [i]something[/i] with him in relation to what he knows
Well, they arent doing it just from the kindness of their hearts, they are just doing it to piss off the US.
[QUOTE=catbarf;41197565]The fact that he's started revealing information completely unrelated to his whistleblowing, like US cyber-attacks against China, is getting a lot of people in the intelligence community very concerned. They want him back both so he can be put on trial and to limit any potential further disclosure.
If he starts giving information to Russia he'll have gone from a whistleblower to a defector and the damage to national security could be enormous. Think of what Russia could do with something as simple as a list of CIA agents in Moscow.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he wouldn't do that if the US Government didn't label him a traitor and start hunting him? That's what happened when he revealed the NSA's illegitimate activities. I think if your Government betrays you like that, it's reasonable that you would care less about their other intelligence secrets. If he sells everything he knows to Russia, it'd be nobody's fault but the US Government for acting the way they did. They didn't have to hail him as a hero, but they turned him into a villain, so would you blame him for acting like one?
[QUOTE=InUndenial;41197672]What right does the US have to conduct espionage on a worldwide level? Maybe this will deflate our massive espionage boner.[/QUOTE]
Its simple Mr:
What right does a country to conduct espionage on other countries? None, but, as it does, so do other countries, then, spiralling down in a vicious circle with no end nor start.
Its the fucked up reality not ruled by logic/valid justifications.
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