• Virginia Republicans Call for Armed Revolution if Obama Wins in November.
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[QUOTE]The author of the Declaration of Independence is often quoted by opposing groups to support their own agenda, but there are few who accurately apply some of his oft-repeated statements. During the healthcare reform debate, angry teabaggers cited Jefferson’s line that “[I]a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing[/I],” as proof that revolution against government tyranny was advocated by a Founding Father as an option in 2009, and that sentiment has not diminished three years later heading into a general election. The groups claiming President Obama is a tyrannical leader have never given one example of tyranny, but they, with the GOP’s assistance, have whipped themselves into frenzy and openly called for armed insurrection against the United States government. One may be inclined to excuse talk of rebellion as angry rhetoric from a fringe element in the tea party, but a Virginia Republican Committee [URL="http://gcrcgop.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/march2012.pdf"]newsletter[/URL] has called for armed revolution if President Obama is re-elected in November. First, it is important to put Jefferson’s statement that “[I]a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing[/I]” in its proper context. Jefferson was showing support for the French who were rebelling against the wealthy elite and church that was keeping the population poor and hungry. In fact, Jefferson hated the wealthy and their banks, and in the same [URL="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Letter_to_Edward_Carrington_-_January_16,_1787"]letter[/URL] to Edward Carrington wrote that “[I]man is the only animal which devours his own kind, and I can apply no milder term to the [B]general prey of the[/B] [B]rich on the poor[/B][/I].” In the [URL="http://www.gcrcgop.com/"]Virginia Republican Committee[/URL] newsletter, there is nothing to imply that protecting Americans from the “[I]prey of the rich on the poor[/I]” is the reason for calling for armed rebellion. According to the [URL="http://gcrcgop.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/march2012.pdf"]newsletter[/URL], President Obama, is a[I] “political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized,” [/I]and that the only option is [I]“armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November[/I]:” If one is confused as to what Republicans consider is a “[I]political socialist ideologue,[/I]” the newsletter claims President Obama “[I]shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might[/I],” and that under Obama, “[I]the government is out of control, and this opportunity, must not be forsaken for we shall not have any coarse (sic) but armed revolution.[/I]” Republicans calling for armed insurrection against the government is nothing new, and few are apt to forget congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN) [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQmRy0jJTA&feature=player_embedded"]saying[/URL] “[I]I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back,[/I]” and went on to specifically cite Jefferson’s quote from 1787. Bachmann continued that, “[I]we the people are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country[/I],” and encouraged Americans “[I]to do everything we can to thwart the Democrats at every turn[/I],” and apparently that included armed rebellion. Another Republican, Sharon Angle, said in a radio interview that it may come to the point that the public would bring down an out-of-control Congress with “[I]Second Amendment remedies[/I].” Angle [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/sharron-angle-floated-2nd_n_614003.html"]repeated[/URL] her warning when she called for “[I]Second Amendment remedies[/I]” to deal with the “[I]ever-growing tyrannical U.S. government[/I],” and to replace her election opponent Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Conservative entertainers have spent no small amount of energy demonizing President Obama over the past three years and although their rants may be just publicity stunts, all it takes are a few crazy people with guns to take their tirades to heart and begin shooting. On Friday, country musician Hank Williams Jr. waited until the end of his show to impugn the President for being “[I]a Muslim who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him[/I]!” Williams incited the audience to cheer his invective not unlike washed-up rocker Ted Nugent who earned a [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/ted-nugent-secret-service-meeting_n_1439130.html"]visit[/URL] from the Secret Service earlier this year for [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/16/ted-nugent-romney-obama_n_1429698.html"]saying[/URL], “[I]If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year[/I]” insinuating he will take matters into his own hands with gun play if the President wins re-election. At a 2008 concert, Nugent [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zYmFAwhmqaU"]said[/URL] while holding a gun in each hand, “[I]Hey, Obama, you might wanna suck on one of these, you punk[/I]” and extended the threat to now-Secretary of State Clinton saying, ”[I]Hillary, you might wanna ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch[/I].” Throughout all of the violent rhetoric, there has not been any condemnation by leading Republicans, and after the Virginia Republican Committee newsletter, it is easy to see why. Apparently, they are serious about armed rebellion against the United States government with an African American man as President. In fact, leading Republicans have been complicit in stirring up resentment against President Obama by accusing him of promoting “[I]European-style socialism[/I]” and not being an American. Willard Romney and his campaign have used the “[I]not an American[/I]” meme to portray the President as “[I]not one of us[/I]” and “[I]foreign to American principles.[/I]” All of the threats of armed revolution have as their basis one simple fact; the President is not a white man. Republicans cannot condemn the President’s record of saving the economy, or creating over 4-million jobs despite Republican’s obstruction, or accuse him of being weak on defense, so they portray him as a foreigner who supplanted a “white man” who should be in the White House. The truth is that it does not matter which white man should be president, it just cannot be an African American, and if voters elect President Obama to a second term, they are seriously considering an armed rebellion. Every Republican who has failed to condemn talk of armed revolution is just as guilty as those calling for “[I]second amendment remedies[/I]” or imploring their constituents to be “[I]armed and dangerous[/I].” It is likely that Republican leaders are not serious about a civil war or revolution, but their approval is evident in their silence. The Virginia Republican Committee newsletter was published in March, and the media or Republican leadership have been silent, and regardless if they support the overthrow of the government if the President wins a second term or not, they are guilty of inciting rebellion by allowing their candidates, spokespersons, and members of Congress to openly call for armed rebellion against the government of the United States. Thomas Jefferson did, indeed, say that revolution is sometimes necessary, but only against wealthy bankers “who prey on the poor” and religious leaders who have the full support of every Republican in the United States. If the people were intelligent enough to actually read why Jefferson said rebellion is necessary, they would rise up and send the GOP to the only place they would be secure; counting their dirty money in their offshore tax havens. [/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.politicususa.com/virginia-republicans-call-armed-revolution-obama-wins-november.html[/URL]
let them secede then we can watch their backwards failures of policy collapse while their government dies.
Hey, let em have a go at it. It'll be fun seeing them getting mowed down by whoever takes care of security for Obama.
excellent idea
Nothing will happen. Also As we speak - Secret Service are working to stop them. If they do revolt - Armed forces will shoot them up and probably end this quickly.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;37330520]Nothing will happen.[/QUOTE] And shouldn't this be kinda counted as treason?
[QUOTE=Nikota;37330560]And shouldn't this be kinda counted as treason?[/QUOTE] Words are wind, it's not necessarily treason until they act.
I am not paying 100% attention to the election, but obama seems like the only competent candidate that won't immediately try his hardest to fuck everything up. And romney pretty much killed himself politically speaking in the last couple months.
Words are wind, this guy's an idiot. Wow okay Arachnidus
[QUOTE=Nikota;37330560]And shouldn't this be kinda counted as treason?[/QUOTE] " ... That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness ... "
And I understand that. But until there's fascism and a visible police state with a mandated curfew, that can't really describe our government
According to the Second amendment they have the right to do this.
Virginia is for lovers? [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FbSipNEmwdU/S4tHvch2V9I/AAAAAAAAAA4/mLxTBsxVJ9c/S760/virginia%2520is%2520for%2520lovers.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Nikota;37330927]And I understand that. But until there's fascism and a visible police state with a mandated curfew, that can't really describe our government[/QUOTE] The American Revolution was over way less than what we're experiencing now.
[QUOTE=Nikota;37330927]And I understand that. But until there's fascism and a visible police state with a mandated curfew, that can't really describe our government[/QUOTE] There will be if this actually succeeds (not that it ever could).
Doesn't Facepunch call for armed revolutions in America all the time?
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37330972]The American Revolution was over way less than what we're experiencing now.[/QUOTE] I'd take a democrat president over excessive taxes, a non-representative government, and the quartering acts.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37330972]The American Revolution was over way less than what we're experiencing now.[/QUOTE] which is why it shouldn't have happened
fuck you the rest of my state leave us northerners out of it
Because this totally worked last time they tried it....
[QUOTE=Nikota;37330560]And shouldn't this be kinda counted as treason?[/QUOTE] Freedom of speech, and even then, its only treason if a Democrat says this to the Republicans. Personally, if either representative tries calling for armed rebellion, they should be tried or at least told to stop or else. [QUOTE=legolover122;37330560]I am not paying 100% attention to the election, but obama seems like the only competent candidate that won't immediately try his hardest to fuck everything up. And romney pretty much killed himself politically speaking in the last couple months.[/QUOTE] Wish that were true, but there are a lot of dumbshits who really think the Republicans are better and are the most competent in the White House.
[QUOTE=Angry Pineapple;37330961]Virginia is for lovers? [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FbSipNEmwdU/S4tHvch2V9I/AAAAAAAAAA4/mLxTBsxVJ9c/S760/virginia%2520is%2520for%2520lovers.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Wonder if they'd still say that about homosexual couples.
Voted funny because you actually sourced an article from Politicususa. Looks like the drudge report is no longer off-limits either?
[QUOTE=its shortie;37331099]Because this totally worked last time they tried it....[/QUOTE] There was a last time?
As a guy who has read a bit of karl marx, I can confirm obama is not a socialist.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37330882]" ... That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness ... "[/QUOTE] This was written with the assumption that the United States would never become a superpower with military presence all over the world and the governments of dozens of nations willing to appease them. The statement has no power behind it anymore. Armed revolution is so impossible that it's actually counterproductive. It gives the government an excuse to clamp down on people's rights even more and defames the cause they fought for. Permission to overthrow the government from a bunch of dead guys isn't going to change that.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;37331422]This was written with the assumption that the United States would never become a superpower with military presence all over the world and the governments of dozens of nations willing to appease them. The statement has no power behind it anymore. Armed revolution is so impossible that it's actually counterproductive. It gives the government an excuse to clamp down on people's rights even more and defames the cause they fought for. Permission to overthrow the government from a bunch of dead guys isn't going to change that.[/QUOTE] that's the attitude that makes change impossible. The very same attitude that's allowing our government to clamp down on our rights. We should never fear our government. This country was founded on the idea that the people held the highest echelon of power.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37330972]The American Revolution was over way less than what we're experiencing now.[/QUOTE] Well okay buddy. You can grab your weapons and make a charge toward the Whitehouse, and I'll uh... be right behind you covering the flanks.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37331533]that's the attitude that makes change impossible. The very same attitude that's allowing our government to clamp down on our rights.[/QUOTE]I guess its a good thing people are more free now than they were then.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37331533]that's the attitude that makes change impossible. The very same attitude that's allowing our government to clamp down on our rights. We should never fear our government. This country was founded on the idea that the people held the highest echelon of power.[/QUOTE] Fight with protest and your vote, not with your guns.
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